The Echo Effect For Muslim zealots little has changed since the seventh century

In 633 A.D., a year after the Prophet's death, the general of the newly formed Muslim armies wrote a letter to the Persian emperor. "Submit to our authority," he declared, "and we shall leave you and your land and go against others. If not, you will be conquered against your will by men who love death as you love life." The general was Khalid ibn al-Walid, who had once opposed Muhammad but who upon becoming a Muslim tumbled dynasties with the convert's fiery zeal. To the emperor the letter must have seemed the ravings of a lunatic. How could the Persian Empire, which had stood for more than 400 years, be threatened by such upstarts as the Arabs, whom Persians with sophisticated disdain considered mere "lizard eaters"? Earlier this month--nearly 1,400 years later--Suleiman Abu Ghaith, a spokesman for Osama bin Laden, held a news conference in which he threatened the West and Americans in particular by claiming that there were "thousands of young men" eager to become martyrs, who "loved death as you love life."

It is not obvious that Islam can take over America. And that is the problem. Muslims have demonstrated a bottomless capacity for deceit as well as patience. That there are muslim moles in various branches of our intelligence and security services in America is something we are only slowly waking up to. Members of this board constantly complain about how Wahabists control selection of prison imams in this country, of CAIR’s antices, of how we are changing the very language to obscure the enemy.

That the U.S. government is being manipulated in various ways, even as we speak, by jihadists to their own ends is hard to fathom. but it is just the thing that sets the stage for that article - add in Obama’s muddled background and you can fill in the rest for these “57 states”.

Bbbut what can we do? We must remain civil and tolerant. And above all, obey the law and work withing the system which has become delusional and suicidal. It's the evolving standards of decency, dontcha know? People don't resort to violence to achieve goals, anymore. And if they do we deny it.

I’m going through the OT for about the sixth time. I’m reading the return from Babylon and the rebuilding of the temple and the walls of Jerusalem. Ezra and Nehimiah. In Ezra there is the disturbing story about cleansing the remnant of the wifes and children who are not 100% pure Hebrews... As I read that I realized that those people, including the husbands, didn’t just roll over although I’m sure some did. Those families just went back to work and left the elite standing on the steps where the temple was being built. In Nehimiah, there’s a story about how Nehimiah gets upset with the elite for usury and slavery of their own people. Why? Because those people are the ones he needs to rebuilt the temple and the wall and guard the city and grow the food. He calls on the elite to back down and without any objection, they do. Now you know that there has to be a whole lot of stuff that happened which wasn’t reported. My guess is that the lower and middle classes did a work slow down and maybe even made threats of just leaving Jerusalen and going back to the country leaving the elite at the mercy of the evil Arabs. The Jews were “stiff necked people.” Even in their own literature, the Arabs were followers and did whatever their leaders told them to do. We are the spiritual and political descendents of the Jews in the OT.

To me the most interesting part is that by saying they “love death” Islamists are admitting that they hate God.

For God said: Proverbs 8:36 “But whoever fails to find me harms himself; all who hate me love death.”

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