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(7/25/08) Qantas Plane Dives 20,000 Feet After Hole Ripped Mid-Air in Fuselage
artorius castus blog ^ | 25 July 08 | AP

Posted on 07/25/2008 6:58:31 AM PDT by cardinal4

MANILA, Philippines — A Qantas flight en route to Australia from London made an emergency stop in Manila on Friday after a loud bang punched a hole in the Boeing 747-400's fuselage, officials and passengers said.

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KEYWORDS: 747; 747400; airlines; airlinesecurity; australia; hongkong; london; philippines; qantas; quantas; uk
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To: Teacher317
Both Journalism Schools and media outlets train them to write provocatively, to get interest and readership. Nothing else matters.

Inform, enlighten, entertain...

21 posted on 07/25/2008 7:57:18 AM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: AndyJackson

Thank you. Something may have been pulled into the engine. The pilots were experienced and calm. Qantas Rules.


22 posted on 07/25/2008 8:00:27 AM PDT by airforceF4
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To: cardinal4
Dramatic as it was it's a perfect example of why flying is so safe. Even with a sizable failure in the aircraft involving decompression at cruising altitude the plane and passengers landed safely. Perhaps the description in the press was a bit dramatic, but that's the way they do things. You would think they would have an editor who knows something about flying review such articles to save them from making journalistic fools of themselves.
23 posted on 07/25/2008 8:08:32 AM PDT by jwparkerjr
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To: airforceF4
Something may have been pulled into the engine.

Photos (non-AP) point to either cargo/baggage related explosion or airframe/fuselage failure of some type.


24 posted on 07/25/2008 8:29:08 AM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: GalaxieFiveHundred

Explosion in the cargo bay?


25 posted on 07/25/2008 8:37:43 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: cardinal4
I'll bet I know what happened ...


26 posted on 07/25/2008 8:41:15 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: GalaxieFiveHundred

That looks like the Captain. I wondered earlier if it was a door seal. Now Im wondering if it was bad rivets?


27 posted on 07/25/2008 8:48:13 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Drill Now, Vote Nobama, and Oust the Third Word Democrat Congress)
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To: Teacher317

And he is still right!


28 posted on 07/25/2008 8:48:53 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Drill Now, Vote Nobama, and Oust the Third Word Democrat Congress)
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To: GalaxieFiveHundred

I read that aluminum planes require maintenance after approx 30K take off and landings to prevent stress fractures and fatigue related failures. After the cabin is pressurized so many times the aluminum becomes brittle and cracks will appear. I don’t know if this is the case with this plane, but it’s as good a guess as any.


29 posted on 07/25/2008 8:51:55 AM PDT by lwd
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To: dragnet2
Explosion in the cargo bay?

The close-up photo doesn't appear to reveal any evidence of explosive-related burns or the like, so if it wasn't an airframe/mechanical failure of some sort, may have been a can/cannister/tank under pressure in the cargo or passenger baggage that exploded.

30 posted on 07/25/2008 8:58:55 AM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: cardinal4

I’ve been on at least one Qantas 747.Given that they don’t have all that many I wonder if this is the one (or one of the ones) I’ve been on.


31 posted on 07/25/2008 9:23:23 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The problem with the rat race is,even if you win you're still a rat.)
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To: airforceF4

The hole is a long way from any engine. Looks like something blew up in the cargo hold. Passengers said they could see into the cargo hold through the hole in the cabin floor, and that sure looks like cargo peeking out the hole in the fuselage.

Maybe an amateur terrorist bomb. Or maybe just some moron passenger put something in their luggage that shouldn’t have been there and some moron security screener missed it. I get the feeling there’s not a whole lot of screening of checked luggage being done. You could put all sorts of interesting liquids in there, in deliberately leaky bottles, adjacent to other leaky bottles containing interesting liquids. Or just a single bottle with a flimsy partition between 2 liquids, that will break down in the course of the flight.


32 posted on 07/25/2008 10:30:02 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Teacher317

I’m shocked it took 16 posts to reference that quote.


33 posted on 07/25/2008 10:48:21 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: GalaxieFiveHundred

It looks like the wall of the plane is dented out, in addition to the hole.


34 posted on 07/25/2008 10:51:19 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: gracesdad
I see nothing wrong with either word

I see a big problem with the whole sentence constuct "the plane dove 20,000ft" as if the plane had a mind of its own, or else as if the pilots lost control and only got control back in the nick of time.

Instead, from everything I can tell, the pilots were in control, and in response to the sudden cabin depressurization, the pilots executed a rapid, but completely controlled descent, as is standard emergency procedure to a level at which cabin pressure does not lead to the rabid depletion of oxygen from the brain causing death.

35 posted on 07/25/2008 10:52:23 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: airforceF4

and a hole didn’t rip mid air either. Something caused the hole. The only thing that is ripped is this reporters fractured English. Maybe he was out late and got ripped. Sounds like he was ripped all the way through journalism school, anyway. Whatever happened to who what where when why and how or whatever it is that they are learn when they aren’t tripping on drugs.


36 posted on 07/25/2008 10:55:42 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Gay State Conservative
Given that they don’t have all that many

I'd bet they have one of the larger fleets; in fact I just looked it up...currently 34, but most of their equipment in the '80s were 747's

I've flown 'em both between L.A. and Sydney, Sydney and Perth and Singapore and Perth.

37 posted on 07/25/2008 10:58:51 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: ErnBatavia
I'd bet they have one of the larger fleets; in fact I just looked it up...currently 34...

Hmmm,I'm surprised that it's that many.I know that they use them between Oz and the US and between Oz and the UK (their prime routes).I always thought of Qantas as being a relatively small airline...perhaps because of the country's small population.

38 posted on 07/25/2008 11:58:10 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The problem with the rat race is,even if you win you're still a rat.)
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To: GalaxieFiveHundred
I can't really tell anything from the photograph except there appears to be a hole in the aircraft. My first gut feeling was something went off in the cargo bay.

The investigation will reveal exactly what occurred in this case.

39 posted on 07/25/2008 12:15:20 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Gay State Conservative

They’re all over Asia...my Aussie buddies travel QANTAS regularly over that entire section of the world.


40 posted on 07/25/2008 12:36:14 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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