Posted on 07/23/2008 11:24:54 AM PDT by mainestategop
I have been saying this for years, just not calling the little ones brats. I’ve used the same terminilogy as disease du juor. First it was asthma, then it was Attention Deficit Disorder, and now it’s autism. All of these diseases are subjective diagnoses by the physicians who diagnose them, so it is easy to say that this child has the newest disease, and whamo, the Mom gets a disability check per child. It also seems that more than one child per family all has the disease. If they weren’t getting the disability checks, I wouldn’t be so cynical about it, and would give the benefit of the doubt that there is a problem with the health of the children in minority families.
If instead of 99.9 %, as D*ckhead stated, the real number is 1.9 %, does that make Savage basically right? Since he picked the MOST severest form of neurological disorder there is, could he possibly be guilty of the most severest type of demagoguery ? Or is he just a plain moron?
That is BS , Mommy. Catscans of Autism patients show up significantly differently than those of "normal" patients. Autism is NOT ADD, it is not a subjective diagnosis.
Probably the worst thing Dipsh*t Savage did was to conflate the two for the uninformed, which unfortunately is the majority of his listeners.
I've often said that many (not all) of the ADHD kids were just behavior problems. Now, my wife generally has a lot to say about parents who don't parent -- she rolls her eyes at many kids that we see and mutters about their need for discipline. But she also works with autistic kids. She has no doubt that there is something seriously wrong with these kids. They just can't function in a normal way. She doesn't think it's parents, doesn't think it's discipline.
I dunno the answer, but I do think something is going wrong.
Once people discovered ADD drugs were killing their children or making them psychotic, the med/ed complex needed a new syndrome, physically undetectable and behaviorally diagnosed. In addition, the shifting definition keeps the “crisis” large enough to get a lot of taxpayer money. I’d disagree with Savage about who are the frauds here...I think it’s the doctors.
The people who abuse these illnesses and conditions are counting on people like you to feel sympathy and defend them just on the face of the name of the illness they claim. It has nothing to do with real autism.
The PC crowd screams and Savage gets nailed. He was right about HIV and he is right about this.
Exactly! These kids just have different spans of attention and different ways of learning. Then there are those who are just out of control and need a licking.
The only people who have attention deficit are the parents and the teachers of these kids.
What I do find interesting....is before 1980....we existed for the most part without this entire “campaign” or the identification of kid as such. I was in a class in the late 60s and early 70s...where we had kids who probably had something you’d refer to ADD or as Autism....and we pretty much survived on...without the drugs...special programs....and special books written by special writers. How? Thats something people might want to refer to and ask themselves....our society and race didn’t die out....we survived and progressed....without drugs or treatment.
>> “They don’t have a father around to tell them, “Don’t act like a moron. You’ll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don’t sit there crying and screaming, idiot.”
Savage, don’t act like a moron. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don’t sit there crying and screaming. Idiot.
Maybe he needed to hear it again.
This man is not good for the conservatism. He’s a lunatic, poorly-reasoned, manic-depressive, perpetually angry, and prone to shooting his mouth off thoughtlessly (like in this case, for instance). He’s a general ass. We’d be better off without him.
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Michael Savage is correct when he say’s “Liberalism is a mental illness”.
I think there is a lot of over diagnosis of autism, Asperger's, and ADD. Or maybe more accurately many people try and group people with mild versions of symptoms that might indicate those disorders in with those having those disorders.
Most people at some time in their lives exhibit some such symptoms to some extent.
I have what would now be diagnosed as pretty serious ADD as a child and still have it to some extent now. I made it through school all the way through college and graduate school without being medicated or treated for it.
It wasn't always easy, and medication might have helped, but I did just fine thanks to having good dedicated parents who encouraged me to work hard and succeed.
I got through without medication due to having the support and encouragement I needed from good parents. I don't think I could have succeeded nearly as well with medication, but without that support.
There is a lot of truth to saying that what a lot of these kids really need is good parenting. At least it was true regarding me.
The reason that autism is being over diagnosed is money. The schools get more money. The doctors get more money. Those doing autism research get more money. Companies doing developing autism drugs and treatments see their stocks going up.
The other reason is that parents want someone to tell them that the problems they are having with their children aren't their fault. That may very well be true in some cases, but it is still the parents that can do the most for those children. We need parents to recognize that having a child with such difficulties isn't an excuse to say they it's not their fault their children have more troubles than others. It's an indication that they are going to have to work harder to help their children succeed in life.
Some parents get that and do their best. Some don't.
For kids that have parents that don't, good teachers and medical professionals can help some, but they simply aren't a replacement for good parents.
There is a commercial featuring actors and musicians where they state that Autism affects 1 of every 163 (IIRC) kids is diagnosed with Autism. First thing I said to my wife was, “What are they using to define it”?
Where is his scientific data? I've not seen him present any, but then, I only listen to Savage on the radio when there is absolutely nothing else to listen to on the drive home. If he doesn't have some valid studies to back him up, then he's only expressing an opinion. (He can do that of course, but that doesn't make his opinion right.)
I agree. I have had some experience with autism patients. The profoundly autistic are truly disabled.
At one time autism was very rare, so I am suspicious that so many children are being diagnosed with the disease.
Are others who talk about false diagnosis and genuine Autism "dipsh*ts"?
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