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To: David
You have made several interesting posts.. but provide no links or references for the statements. With links and references, these are bombshells. Without, its just so much smoke. Please go back and provide links and references for all of your interesting posts. Do it as a separate thread if you like.. recapping this thread in some sort of order.. by way of showing the trail that opens the question whether Obama was born in Hawaii.

Rather than feeding the smoke and silliness, make it clear and your rep will rise considerably.

607 posted on 07/04/2008 4:15:04 AM PDT by dalight
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To: dalight
You have made several interesting posts.. but provide no links or references for the statements. With links and references, these are bombshells. Without, its just so much smoke. Please go back and provide links and references for all of your interesting posts. Do it as a separate thread if you like.. recapping this thread in some sort of order.. by way of showing the trail that opens the question whether Obama was born in Hawaii.

That is not completely true but it is certainly fair comment. Initially, I attempted to follow the practice of citing references on the collateral issues however the volume of legal issues began to build up so I attempted to focus on them and stopped looking for references on the collateral questions; later I also got sloppy about the legal references because for anyone who wants them, they are posted and clearly spelled out on either this thread or one of the two prior threads. However this morning, at some point, I will set out the statute references and the legal again in a new Vanity post on the subject.

My own focus has been on the legal issues--I am a lawyer; admitted to practice before the U S Supreme Court; having argued a number of appellate cases. There is broad misunderstanding about the legal and in fact, the legal is very clear specific statute law that spells out exactly what the status is.

I didn't start to accumulate papers on these collateral issues until last week and I have enough that to search for links on these questions is time consuming--and there is no guarantee that I have all of them although I believe I can still find all the references. At some point, I may well do what you suggest and write a complete brief covering both the factual issues and the law.

But I see this as continuing to develop.

If you are asking about the law, it is 8 USCA Sec. 1401(g) (and in prior statutes Sec. 1401(7)). The effective dates of the various modifications is set out in the footnotes--Congress made some of the changes retroactively effective to some degree; however the key change, making the residence change for the single U S Parent from 5 years to 2 years is applicable only to persons born after November, 1986; thus Obama does not qualify.

726 posted on 07/04/2008 7:39:26 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: dalight
Senate Resolution 511

There were 5 sponsors. Leahy, Obama, Coburn, Clinton, Webb.

851 posted on 07/04/2008 11:08:16 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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