“Why would they use a fraudulent birth certificate?”
I don’t know, but consider a Kenya birth to be far less likely than alternative explanations such as Canadian birth simply because of the logistics and expense—whether these apply to BHO in utero or as an infant only a few days old.
I fear this 72 hours claim may well have emerged from the “echo chamber.” Isn’t it YOUR theory that Ann went to Kenya only for a brief time (measured in days rather than weeks or months)? We have reports of friends of Ann’s saying she was less visible socially during spring 1962, but no one asserts she completely disappeared. I thought you or someone else here—I’m sure not planning to scour thousands of posts—claimed something to the effect that it was Kenyan tradition to be with parental family and/or Barack Senior insisted on this trip to ensure his son’s Kenyan citizenship. If the latter was the motivation, his subsequent abandonment of BHO is very hard to explain. A father who sees his son but once in his life seems quite the opposite of a person who would undergo the absurd expense (while a student!) to have his “wife” shipped back to Africa for the birth.
I haven’t seen the accounts of relatives claiming to have seen BHO born in Africa, but we do know that some African relatives confused Barack Senior’s 3rd wife for Ann when she suddenly showed up in Africa allegedly having followed him on her own accord from Harvard. Ann likewise was confused with Toot, who in fact was her (great?) grandmother. So in light of the unreliability of eyewitnesses to contemporaneous events, I have to take 3 decade-old memories (especially if they are adult memories of childhood incidents) with a grain of salt. I can’t claim it’s in any way been proven BHO wasn’t born in Kenya, but the evidence at hand to date is awfully thin.
So it wouldn’t surprise me at all if this poster simply read some speculation here about a short trip to Africa for the birth, misinterpreted it as something being reported from one of BHO’s books, converted “several days” to 72 hours, and proceeded to post that assertion on the board. As I indicated in an earlier post, if that poster’s intent had been to broadcast a startling new finding, much more would have been made about where s/he found the factoid.
I don’t know, but consider a Kenya birth to be far less likely than alternative explanations such as Canadian birth simply because of the logistics and expense—whether these apply to BHO in utero or as an infant only a few days old.
I fear this 72 hours claim may well have emerged from the “echo chamber.” Isn’t it YOUR theory that Ann went to Kenya only for a brief time (measured in days rather than weeks or months)? We have reports of friends of Ann’s saying she was less visible socially during spring 1962, but no one asserts she completely disappeared. I thought you or someone else here—I’m sure not planning to scour thousands of posts—claimed something to the effect that it was Kenyan tradition to be with parental family and/or Barack Senior insisted on this trip to ensure his son’s Kenyan citizenship.
With all respect, I think no to most of that.
My thesis is that both Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann went to Kenya during the break between fall and winter (quarter?) semester in school, sometime in January 1961 after finals; got married; and decided that given Stanley Ann had been kicked out by her family, she would stay until just prior to the birth and then return to get the child U S Citizenship. Marriage in the US would have violated criminal bigamy statutes; marriage in Kenya was not only not illegal, it was the social norm to have multiple wives.
She stayed too long--BOAC would not let her get on the airplane; and Obama Jr. was born in Kenya.
She then came back (through the established 1961 BOAC schedule via Glaskow to Vancouver BC; to Seattle; and to Honolulu). She or one of her parents did something to register Obama Jr. as a birth in Honolulu.
In the 50's and 60's there was a fair amount of transportation to British Africa through this route and through Vancouver B.C. out of Seattle. BOAC was not prohibitively expensive. There were cut price deals for students and others related to visiting Africa students which the wife of such a student would have qualified for.
No I don't think she was only there for a brief time--I would be inclined to believe Obama might have said 72 hours to cover the fact that it has already come out and someone might have a record that put her in Kenya immediately before the birth; but 72hours doesn't mean she wasn't there a lot longer which I believe she was.
No, I don't know of any reason Obama Sr. would have pursued getting Jr. to Kenya or worried about how to get him citizenship--I assume Sr. thought he was well connected enough to get citizenship whenever he felt like it.
And no, I don't know of anyone--no single source anywhere of any single person that even inferred that Stanley Ann was ever seen, even one time, in Honolulu in the period between February 1, 1961 (or whenever fall semester ended) and August 8, 1961. And if my thesis is correct, no one will appear.