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To: Spunky
'"Barack Obama Sr. poses with his son in the Honolulu airport during Obama Sr.’s only visit to see his son while he was growing up in Hawaii. Young Barack was in the 5th grade when the photo was taken. (Photo courtesy of Barack Obama / March 23, 2007)' Something very strange is going on here. The San Francisco sign is so easy to see in that picture of him with his father. The one with Barack Sr. and Ann the wording above is very hard to read. I guess since the angle is slightly different could make it harder to read. But could it say "Philippines" like you thought it said in the one picture and also "San Francisco"? I am not familiar with airports.

One of the labels needs to be incorrect--because both pictures were taken at the same time; the background photos down to the man in the background and his dress all line up.

The flip from Philippines to San Francisco may be an early destination sign changing. Honolulu is one airport in which I have not spent any material time.

As someone else suggests earlier, it should be considered that the boy is not Barack but his half brother. The cheek bones on the boy appear too low for Barack. Although the boy in the picture looks much like Barack in the family picture on the couch posted later.

Another research task that should be considered by someone with the expertise to undertake it is to learn the available airline routing between Honolulu and Kenya in the early 1960's. It is possible that the only or most available routing is traveling East, not West. All connections through San Francisco and the East Coast.

The incorrect references in the news media look on reflection like an effort to manufacture a time line for these events. If she is really standing in the departure lobby of the Honolulu airport, three months pregnant in her wedding dress, it looks like she is going somewhere.

Her family is in Honolulu. Where is she going? There is certainly an obvious inference.

This fits with another new fact. In the Chicago Tribune article (or Time or both), they quote (self-serving testimony by) Barack that when mother applied for a passport to Indonesia, it was her first passport and first trip out of the country. So she never saw her inlaws in Kenya? Really? Certainly, she was never there when he was born?

The first passport story might well fit the facts. I believe although have not confirmed, that as late as the early sixties, not only could the child travel on the mother or father's passport; so could the wife travel on the husband's passport. So there may in fact be some kind of wedding confirmation in Hawaii around the end of the year in 1961, then used by the father as a basis to travel the wife.

They were going to Kenya where he had influence and may not have needed to be concerned about entry documents and visas. On the return, even if he was not with them, under then applicable law, she got back into the country with her Driver's License--probably with a Kenya birth certificate for her kid, he got in also.

1,241 posted on 07/05/2008 7:26:57 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: David

I’m not even convinced that is Obama Jr. in that picture with Obama Sr. He had other children in Kenya.

One thing that is bothering me in that picture is there is more flash reflection off the child then the man. Like two different lightings were used. And both, the man and child, were in the same angle of the camera.

In my photo software, I can lighten up one person and leave the other. I can make it look like a flash affect too.


1,242 posted on 07/05/2008 7:37:23 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: David

If I remember correctly, the wording was that she was getting her passport. Not necessarily a FIRST one but a new one. She could have had a passport before and let it lapse. Just my thinking out loud here.


1,263 posted on 07/05/2008 8:26:48 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: David
Not sure how reliable this is as it is from Wiki Answers.

Question: "Can two or more persons travel using a single passport?
In: Family Travel [Edit]

Answer

"This is no longer possible. In the past, the husband's passport took care of the wife and family, but not any more. Even an infant is required to have a passport, this prevents one spouse from leaving the country without the knowledge of the other spouse, a more common occurance then one would like to admit.

If you look at the two pictures again the one where Barack Sr. and Ann are together it is the White Sign with Black lettering that was thought to say Phillipines. That appears to me to be a lighted scroll sign. In the picture of Obama Sr. and Obama Junior the Blue San Francisco sign is above what I think is the lighted scroll sign. So I am beginning to think it is the same airport in both pictures and evidently when Obama was around 10-12.

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out, but I think we all know. The Democrats get away with anything.

1,315 posted on 07/05/2008 9:38:16 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: David
I believe although have not confirmed, that as late as the early sixties, not only could the child travel on the mother or father's passport; so could the wife travel on the husband's passport.

Perhaps other countries have changed laws since then, but I would have thought that anyone traveling abroad would have always been expected to have a passport from their home country with them at all times. If a baby is traveling abroad with parents, it might be expected that the baby and parents would never be far apart. I really doubt the same could be said for a husband and wife, though.

1,316 posted on 07/05/2008 9:38:25 AM PDT by supercat
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To: David
Another research task that should be considered by someone with the expertise to undertake it is to learn the available airline routing between Honolulu and Kenya in the early 1960's.

I think you're right here. I've only been to the Honolulu airport a few times in the 1990's, but in 1961 I'd bet that the only flights into or out of Honolulu were to San Francisco or Tokyo, maybe Australia and Los Angeles. All the planes were props back then. So it wouldn't be surprising to section off the airport by destination city, and then have all the airline counters that service that city located in the same place. Maybe even have multiple counters for the same airline in different sections the airport, not like today.

-PJ

1,342 posted on 07/05/2008 11:46:04 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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