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Who has more credibility? Obama or Sinclair
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Posted on 06/20/2008 8:17:06 AM PDT by pissant

Larry Sinclair held a press conference Wednesday to try to get the media to investigate his claims of a sexual liaison with Barack Obama, and drug use. These events occurred, allegedly in 1999. You can view the press conference here. And his original video here. Other videos and info can be found here and here.

Many people in the media do not believe Larry to be credible because he has a past police record (from incidents that occurred 20+ years ago). People have ridiculed him and tried to discredit his story because he is on disability, which is due to an injury.

But, in looking at both men, neither of whom I know very well AT ALL, I have an opinion on who is more credible.

Let's look at them, side by side.

Larry Sinclair has an admitted drug past, including marijuana and cocaine. Barack Obama has an admitted drug past including underage drinking, marijuana and cocaine.

Larry Sinclair has changed his name a few times. (Lawrence W. Sinclair, La-Rye A. Silvas, La-Rye Vizcarra Avila) Barack Obama has changed his name a few time. (Barry Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barack Hussein Obama, Barack Obama)

Larry Sinclair has lived out of the country - Mexico. Barack Obama has lived out of the country - Indonesia.

Larry Sinclair is a convicted felon. Barack Obama is an unconvicted felon. (possession of cocaine is a felony, Obama was just never caught)

Larry Sinclair has served time in jail. Barack Obama's close friends have served time in jail. (William Ayers, Tony Rezko - and there are others who probably should be in jail)

Larry Sinclair says that he rented a limo, and they partied in the limo, and the next day, Obama came to his hotel room. Barack Obama associate Stuart Levine, who testified in the Rezko trial, led a "secret life" in which he allegedly engaged in all-night drug-fueled sex parties, some in hotels in Lincolnwood and Springfield, during the late 90's. He also is alleged to have been seen using drugs in his office during business hours.

Larry Sinclair has been upfront about all of his past crimes, never lying about them. Barack Obama has lied to the American people many times. (his knowledge of Wright's sermons, his smoking, his association with William Ayers, Rezko, NAFTA, his talks with the PM of Iraq, Public Finance of Elections...)

Larry Sinclair has provided all of his records, including hotel receipts, cell phone numbers, the name of the Limo Driver, and cell numbers for Donald Young. Barack Obama has not revealed his IL State Senate Records. His campaigns only public acknowledgment of the Larry Sinclair situation was sending a lawyer to Puerto Rico to counter Larry's appearance on a TV program there.

Larry Sinclair has released his health records. Barack Obama has not released his health records, just a note from his doctor. (nor has he released his birth certificate)

Larry Sinclair has never flip flopped on his claims against Barack Obama. Barack Obama has flip flopped on many, many issues including his church, what he knew, when he knew it, his flag pin, campaign finance, NAFTA, Rezko and his role in the campaign, and the amount of money Rezko donated, his home....)

Larry Sinclair has appeared on radio and tv, unscripted, and is convincing, and does not make gaffes. Barack Obama has appeared on radio and tv, and unscripted, makes many, many gaffes. (many times misrepresenting his family's role in wars, or patriotism)

Larry Sinclair has acquired the attendance roll call sheet for Obama, which shows Obama was missing from the Senate on the one day the IL Senate met in November.

Barack Obama has not provided any records from his time in the IL State Senate.

Larry Sinclair has also submitted an affidavit to the Chicago Police in an effort to help in the investigation into the as of yet, unsolved execution style murder of Donald Young, the gay choir director from TUCC. Barack Obama, to my knowledge, has not provided any assistance to the Chicago Police Department in their investigation of Donald Young. There was a $1000 reward offered, by someone, to anyone who provided information leading to the solving of the crime, but as of late, nothing has been solved.

Larry Sinclair is an openly gay man. Barack Obama is not an openly gay man. (but he shops for arugula at Whole Foods? haha jk) Larry Craig is not an openly gay man. Jim McGreevy was not an openly gay man.

Larry Sinclair said that he is not racist, and as a gay man has suffered predjudice, and does not inflict that hate towards others.

Barack Obama belonged, for 20 years, to an Anti-American, anti-white, seemingly hateful church.

I do not get how some people can be so absolutely sure that these claims about Obama are untrue, to the point of making death threats to people who speak out against Obama. Sure, I can understand his wife believing the claims are false. But, do you ever really know anyone? Can you ever swear on your life that something is false. Why are people so 100% positive that Larry Sinclair is lying?

Do you think Larry Craig's wife thought he was trolling bathrooms for gay men? Or did Eliot Spitzer's wife know he was engaging in high priced call girls? Or any of the politicians below - do you think their closest family and friends knew they were having gay affairs, or paying for hookers, or sexually harassing interns, employees, and others?

New York Governor Eliot Spitzer Gary Condit Dan Crane Duke Cunningham Richard Curtis Mark Foley Gary Hart Walter Jenkins Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick Bob Packwood Paul E. Patton Fred Richmond Jack Ryan Arnold Schwarzenegger

Oprah Winfrey did a show once on African American men living on the down low.

This week the View did a special section devoted to African American women and HIV/AIDS. HIV/AIDS has become an epidemic among AA women - in large part due to cheating partners by men living on the down low.

(Of course, the fault is not entirely on men living in the closet - drug use, blood transfusions, jail terms, bisexual sex, women not insisting on protected sex, fear of the AIDS test, etc. are to blame as well - my point is that this is a real issue - and in many cases, a deadly one)

So, we have one guy, who has tried as hard as he can, to bring his truth to the American people. He wants Obama to admit to his drug use as late as 1999. He has been subjected to death threats as has his family, online harassment, constant phone calls of harassment, smears, and more. He has nothing to gain by coming forward.

Obama, on the other hand, has everything to lose, if these claims are true.

The more I learn of Larry Sinclair, and the more I learn of his claims, the more credible he seems.

The more I learn of Barack Obama, the more I learn about him as a man and a politician, the less credible he seems.

Yes, Obama is a US Senator. Yes, Obama was a state senator. But, the men I listed above were/are Senators' Governors, Representatives and Presidential Candidates too. And many of them had far more experience and accomplishments than Obama. And they all had a lot to lose.

I don't know either of these men personally. I only know what I have researched, and read, and seen and witnessed.

Even David Brooks from the New York Times sees The Two Obamas.

"But as recent weeks have made clear, Barack Obama is the most split-personality politician in the country today. On the one hand, there is Dr. Barack, the high-minded, Niebuhr-quoting speechifier who spent this past winter thrilling the Scarlett Johansson set and feeling the fierce urgency of now. But then on the other side, there’s Fast Eddie Obama, the promise-breaking, tough-minded Chicago pol who’d throw you under the truck for votes.

This guy is the whole Chicago package: an idealistic, lakefront liberal fronting a sharp-elbowed machine operator. He’s the only politician of our lifetime who is underestimated because he’s too intelligent. He speaks so calmly and polysyllabically that people fail to appreciate the Machiavellian ambition inside."

So, if you ask me, based on everything I know, I vote for Larry Sinclair.

At least he is honest about who he is.


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: cocaine; crack; donaldyoung; larrysinclair; obama; sinclair; whokilleddonaldyoung; young
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To: pissant

bttt


41 posted on 06/21/2008 3:50:24 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: pissant
CSPAN caller, Hillary supporter, just told the audience to go to Larry Sinclair website:)
42 posted on 06/21/2008 5:56:36 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: firewalk; MinuteGal

Bump for the weekend crowd.

Larry Sinclair’s Press Conference:(Long but worth seeing.)
http://larrysinclair.org/

Donald Young: News of his death:
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=5854125

Larry Bland,Donald Young, Nate Spencer: Connection?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080617224527AAf6Ehz


43 posted on 06/21/2008 2:32:12 PM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: All; seekthetruth
Folks, if you haven't seen the Sinclair video, you must view it now. It's a tad longish, but believe me, it'll grab your attention when you get into it and you'll go right to the end, I kid you not.

The link is posted right above, thanks to Seek the Truth.

Talking about truth, you be the judge after seeing the video. Who's telling The Truth, Sinclair or Obama? I'm interested in everybody's take on this.

Leni

44 posted on 06/21/2008 4:40:02 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Stay Home or vote Barr for Obamination, more Taxation, Regulation, Litigation and Ginburgization)
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To: pissant
I’d deny it and sue for libel.

Barack won't sue. If he did, there would be a trial....and evidence would come forward.

In fact.....I'd be a little concerned for Sinclair's health while he's in custody.

45 posted on 06/22/2008 6:26:46 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: LaineyDee; MinuteGal

“Barack won’t sue. If he did, there would be a trial....and evidence would come forward. In fact.....I’d be a little concerned for Sinclair’s health while he’s in custody.”

I believe you are right! I doubt we will even see Obama release his phone records and schedules for the short periods of time that Sinclair requested be released. If Obama did release them and if the late Donald Young’s phone records were checked against Sinclair’s, it would tell in a heartbeat if Sinclair is telling the truth. Obama would not sue and be forced to release his phone records or schedules!

I also would be concerned for Sinclair’s health while he is in custody. I would also be concerned for any gay members of Obama/Wright’s church who had ANY contact with Obama! Three have been murdered, and I believe there is more to these terrible deaths than just hate crimes! The Chicago PD is supposedly still investigating, but lets see if they actually investigate the information Sinclair provided. Don’t think I should hold my breath!


46 posted on 06/22/2008 7:33:45 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: TornadoAlley3

“CSPAN caller, Hillary supporter, just told the audience to go to Larry Sinclair website:)”

Don’t know how I missed your post last night. Must have been during my bread baking!:) Glad to hear that the info for viewing the National Press Club press conference by Sinclair got out there. No media covered it and usually CSpan does cover them. Guess Sinclair knew that would be the case so he had a group video it and posted it on his web site. Bet CSpan would be sure to edit that call if the call-in program were to be repeated, but know they are not repeated.


47 posted on 06/22/2008 7:45:28 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: seekthetruth

Sinclair seems to be making a desperate attempt to stay alive by yelling it to the rooftops. That technique worked for Jennifer Flowers and Monica. Stay silent.....and they make sure you stay silent. Too many questions are asked if you’ve gone to the media and broadcast it to the world. Snakes like to hide under their rocks....


48 posted on 06/22/2008 7:50:43 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: pissant

wondering if we’ll hear word of sinclair today bump...


49 posted on 06/23/2008 7:26:24 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: FrdmLvr

yep, obsama sure does look gay dancing he better stick to flip flopping.


50 posted on 06/27/2008 4:15:17 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: TomasUSMC

Yes, he does that rather well. Flip flopping.


51 posted on 06/27/2008 7:50:15 PM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: pissant; All

FROM LARRY SINCLAIR:

http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/

“FIRST
The detective’s who entered the NPC and stated I was being arrested on a “Fugitive from Justice” warrant from Delaware, failed to produce any warrant of any kind when asked by Mr. Sibley or myself, inside the NPC nor when we reached the Detective’s vehicles.

SECOND
The Detectives did not at any time advise me of my Miranda Rights.

THIRD
The Detectives with the DC Metro Police, The US Marshall’s nor the US Attorney nor DC Superior Court Magistrate Judge A. Melendez never produced nor provided to me or to the Public Defender a single document showing any “Fugitive from Justice” warrant from Delaware nor any other authorizing arrest document for the District of Columbia.

FOURTH
DC Police booked me claiming my date of birth was July 26, 1963 and when I advised them that was incorrect I was told that is what the FBI says and therefore that is what they are going by.

FIFTH
I was detained from June 18, 2008 thru June 23, 2008 in DC Jail without ever being shown a single document charging me with a single crime, nor a single warrant asking me if said warrant was in fact me.

Now people can say oh well “he” is an ex con so it had to be him, or any number of such comments. But the fact remains that the US Constitution does not work that way.

US ATTORNEY FOR DC IGNORES THE LAW IN DEATH THREATS
The US Attorney for the District of Columbia, knowing beyond a reasonable doubt the name and address of an individual who clearly threatened to kill me, my attorney and my mother at the National Press Club, refused to fulfil his duties as the US Attorney, when he decided not to press charges and instructed the DC FBI Office NOT to take this person into custody.

SA Brenda K Born, Cyber Crimes Unit of the DC FBI office confirmed to me and Mr. Sibley on Monday June 16, 2008 that the individual who threaten to murder myself, Sibley and my mother was identified and questioned by the DC Police and FBI on that date. Agent Born further confirmed that per the US Attorney’s office NO charges would be filed. Agent Born further confirmed to me and Sibley that the US Attorney for DC would not authorize the disclosure of the identity of this individual.

Now how can the US Attorney ignore the fact that laws had clearly been broken, how can the US Attorney decide that myself, Mr. Sibley nor my mother had the right to know who was saying they would MURDER the three of us? Who is the US Attorney for the District of Columbia protecting? And why?

These are questions that people need to ask and demand to be answered. Since when does the US Attorney have the right to ignore the law in one instance and make up the law in the next?”


52 posted on 06/28/2008 6:18:06 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: pissant

Pman, Sinclair just posted his official paperwork. Can you ping any lawyers out there to get their opinion?

THE ACTUAL DOCUMENTS FROM THE DC COURT APPEARANCE, FOLLOWED BY THE THREE DOCUMENTS FROM THE 6-23-08 DELAWARE COURT APPEARANCE FOLLOWED BY THE SIX (6) DOCUMENTS PROVIDED BY THE SUPERIOR COURT CLERK IN WILMINGTON, DE ON 6-26-08.


53 posted on 06/29/2008 10:51:51 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: TomasUSMC

I don’t know any lawyers personally, other than liberal ones. They’d rather perform a ‘sinclair’ on Obama, than do anything to help defeat the commie.


54 posted on 06/30/2008 5:34:22 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; Jeff Head; Grampa Dave; Travis McGee; pissant


55 posted on 07/17/2008 4:43:38 AM PDT by devolve (- "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it." Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: devolve

Nice old metal sign.


56 posted on 07/17/2008 9:54:53 AM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: WayneS

Larry Sinclair says that he recieved calls from phones linked to a specific DC LAW FIRM that represents google ...and google just pulled a youtube of Sinclair’s that may be linked to that firms switchboard.

WOW

He states “ HARASSMENT, THREATS, INTIMIDATION AND SLANDER ON BEHALF OF BARACK OBAMA, WHY?”

http://larrysinclair0926.com/

oBambi, NOR HIS FIGHT THE SMEARS PAGE, still does not fight against or deny anything Larry Sinclair alleges. This includes buying cocaine, a very serious offense.

You would think obambi would file some sort of libel suit to protect his good name...Heck it would be easy to dismiss the allegations of a drug taking ex-con with a long rap sheet ... right?........UNLESS it were true and not just in this case but in many other cases with many other individuals.

What is the statue of limitations for buying and selling cocaine?

Will obambi take a blood test?

If obambi thinks Mr. Sinclair is trouble .... wait till the dem convention, the closet doors will fly open then.


57 posted on 07/23/2008 9:08:07 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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bump


58 posted on 09/03/2008 4:22:15 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Matthew 7:15-16)
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