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Court orders return of sect children to parents
The Virginian ^ | 5/29/2008 | Moneyrunner

Posted on 05/29/2008 5:35:56 PM PDT by moneyrunner

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The warrant also links Swinton to calls made throughout October from a "Dana Anderson." The caller claimed to be a young woman being abused by her pastor at Colorado Springs' New Life Church, and later as a 13-year-old student at Liberty High School who said she was being drugged and sexually abused by her father. New Life Church is incidentally the church in which a deranged gunman killed one and wounded four before being killed himself. It appears that his church is the subject of quite a bit of hatred by militant atheists.
1 posted on 05/29/2008 5:35:56 PM PDT by moneyrunner
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...Texas Supreme Court ruled Thursday that child welfare officials overstepped their authority... The high court affirmed a decision by an appellate court... "On the record before us, removal of the children was not warranted," the justices said...

OK, now the FR stalinist brigade can pi$$ and moan at how "unjust" for the chillren this ruling is.

For the record, I'm pi$$ed at the Texas CPS for their shoddy handling of this case; and for allowing people that probably should be behind bars to go free due to their ineptitude.

2 posted on 05/29/2008 6:13:05 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: clee1

I honestly don’t know what to make of this ruling.It looks like someone wanted to make themselves famous off this sensational case. There are far too many prosecutors out there who are guided by the media spotlight instead of the truth. There should be severe punishment dished out to the prank caller and anyone else who distorted the facts.


3 posted on 05/29/2008 6:30:35 PM PDT by peeps36 (Politician = Corrupt Degenerate Loser = Ted, Nancy, Barry, Jack and Many More)
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To: moneyrunner

After the Supremes have UPHELD the lower court, several FREEPERS owe the rest an apology.....!


4 posted on 05/29/2008 6:49:16 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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I agree. If there is a pregnant twelve or thirteen year old, find out who the father is and arrest him. Ask the girl if her mother is culpable. Barring that, families are sacrosanct.
5 posted on 05/29/2008 7:02:05 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: moneyrunner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6hgpSoUZCs&feature=related

The Savage Nation


6 posted on 05/29/2008 7:08:33 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: 2harddrive

An apology? Don’t hold your breath.


7 posted on 05/29/2008 7:09:34 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: 2harddrive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rePO1r0NTPU&feature=related

I will never understand how some FReepers could condone a government raid where they rounded up all the innocent children at gunpoint. How can some FReepers condone the false imprisonment of adult women?!! How can some FReepers believe the filth and lies about this story from the main stream media, including FOX News?! It does not fit the profile of a liberty-loving FReeper.


8 posted on 05/29/2008 7:13:28 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: clee1; moneyrunner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBOHpf3SEc8&feature=related

Michael Savage if thoroughly PO’d about this.


9 posted on 05/29/2008 8:14:13 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Let this be a lesson Saundra.

It doesn't take much to strip away that paper thin veneer of 'civilization' from most folks. Any crowd, no matter how well behaved you may think they are, no matter how rational they may appear to be, is never more than one incident away from becoming a very frightening mob.

This case has illustrated that fact quite nicely I think. I know there are members of this forum that I'll never look at the same way again.

Take a hard look at what has happened here and you'll understand how easy it was for Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and Pol Pot to do what they did.

L

10 posted on 05/29/2008 8:19:11 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR, to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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Take a hard look at what has happened here and you'll understand how easy it was for Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and Pol Pot to do what they did.

Very deep musings, L. I like to think that all my life I have looked within to acknowledge my baser self. I even know many of the situations that would cause me to kill. I just wish people could understand how a demagogue loves a mob.

11 posted on 05/29/2008 8:41:56 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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Very deep musings, L

Yea, that's me. Old Deep Musing Lurker....LOL.

This place used to be full of deep musers. Most of the people who were on here understood how important it is to defend to the death the Constitutional Rights of even the most weird, reviled, and despised members of what laughingly passes for a society these days.

Now look how little it took to strip all of that away and expose a lot of people for exactly what they are. Namely a bunch of would be tyrants perfectly willing to destroy what little is left of the longest lasting Constitutional Republic the world has ever seen.

Damned sad if you ask me, and more than just a little bit scary.

L

12 posted on 05/29/2008 8:57:39 PM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR, to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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Here ya go.

Musings so old and deep, they’re positively moldy.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2023366/posts


13 posted on 05/29/2008 9:18:52 PM PDT by djf
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Very good! And Jeff Head is even back!


14 posted on 05/29/2008 9:40:50 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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You're absolutely right clee1. The lies, incompetence and cruelty of Texas CPS punished the innocent women and children while allowing the FLDS leaders, who probably really did condone at least some teen marriages, to escape.

The Attorney General of Utah handled the FLDS much more reasonably and constitutionally by only going after men who had definitely committed crimes and only going after them after getting probable cause.

15 posted on 05/29/2008 10:16:40 PM PDT by LuxAerterna
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To: Lurker

Amen.


16 posted on 05/29/2008 11:22:25 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: clee1; higgmeister; Saundra Duffy; Lurker; LuxAerterna
I posted this Sex and Eugene Volokh to spark a larger discussion on the law and marriage.
17 posted on 05/30/2008 5:00:58 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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I know I'm gonna get blasted for saying this but that's OK...I can take it.

Seeing photos of the women of that group makes my gut twist into knots.Those women are *****creepy*****.Stepford-wife creepy.Looking at those women,by itself,strongly suggests to me that there's something ***seriously*** wrong in that group.Something so wrong that government authorities are correct to take a close look...particularly regarding the welfare of the kids.

And....no....I'm not some kind of anti-Mormon type.

18 posted on 05/30/2008 8:23:58 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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Something so wrong that government authorities are correct to take a close look...particularly regarding the welfare of the kids.

None of us who decried the actions of the Texas CPS disagree with that.

We would like the police to gather evidence of criminal wrongdoing, submit said evidence to the DA, have the DA indict anyone found to have abused children, and have those people tried by a court of law. Then, if found guilty, jailed.

Some people would rather the police and CPS just round up everyone peripherally involved and ship them off to a camp.

Sometimes criminals get away with their crimes. Sometimes it's because they are very clever, sometimes it's because they are lucky and sometimes it's because the authorities screw up the case against them.

And when any of those happen, it sucks. Criminals, especially those that abuse children, deserve punishment.

But you can't be a supporter of the Constitution and a proponent of the rule of law and due process while simultaneously screaming that the Texas authorities must "do something!!!!111."

We are a country of laws. Sometimes the guilty go free. That sucks. But the converse is too scary to contemplate.

19 posted on 05/30/2008 8:35:21 AM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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Well said.

L

20 posted on 05/30/2008 9:06:37 AM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR, to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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