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It's Nothing New (In 2002, Obama claimed G'Father @ Auschwitz)
Transterrestrial Musings ^ | 5-27-08 | Rand Simberg

Posted on 05/27/2008 5:42:09 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo

Thanks to a link from one of my Obama-admiring commenters (thank you, Robert), we learn that Obama's tales of Americans liberating Auschwitz didn't start this weekend. He was telling similar stories about his grandfather back in 2002, in his now-famous Iraq speech, which I'd never previously read:

My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton's army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka.

The first troops to enter those two camps (in Poland) were Soviet troops, so unless Patton was leading them, this can't be true.

As I noted in comments, you'd think that if he's going to be telling these kinds of stories, he'd at least attempt to make them plausible (e.g., Dachau and Buchenwald). My guess is that he's unfamiliar with the actual history of the war, and just invoked two of the most notorious camp names to make his point. Whether his grandfather (or "uncle") actually told him tales of concentration camps will probably never be known.

It's interesting that no one has ever noticed this historical discrepancy before, considering how such a big deal has been made of that speech. This should also knock the legs out from under arguments from the Obama camp that he didn't really say "Auschwitz," and that it was CBS and other news sources putting the word in his mouth.

My guess? He's just making this stuff up. Because it sounds good to the ignorant rubes, and he's a good speechifier. It's all part of that "new politics" we've heard so much about.

[Update a couple minutes later]

I'm hearing a report on Fox News, where they have video of his uncle story. Yes, he really said that he liberated Auschwitz, and then hid in the attic for six months.

[Another update]

OK, in Obama days, "the next day" means over half a year later in June of 1942. Just another "mistake," I'm sure.  


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: lies; obama

1 posted on 05/27/2008 5:42:09 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Good find. ABC, CNN. etc. will be all over it!/sarc


2 posted on 05/27/2008 5:45:18 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Socialism is the feudalism of the future.")
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To: dynachrome
Found it via LGF.
3 posted on 05/27/2008 5:47:18 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo

My God. I wish he would hold off on such screw ups until after Hillary is totally out of the race.


4 posted on 05/27/2008 5:53:31 PM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

“...he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka.”

Don’t want to defend this racist liar, but in this case, he claimed to have
“heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka.” Doesn’t claim his Granddad was there.


5 posted on 05/27/2008 5:58:18 PM PDT by gate2wire
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To: SeafoodGumbo
video link Notice how he raises his eyebrows a bit at "attic" and "6 months." Liar.
6 posted on 05/27/2008 5:58:35 PM PDT by Homer1
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To: Homer1

What I find odd of the video is that none of his listeners even looked at him while he talked. They must’ve been embarrassed to hear this bunk. These WWII veterans were probably elbowing each other asking: “Where you there?”

And to think that there are actually Americans who plan to vote for him. What went wrong with our country?


7 posted on 05/27/2008 6:10:23 PM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
No big deal, CNN said so, “it was like dialing a wrong number”...
8 posted on 05/27/2008 6:17:19 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Everytime McCain reaches out to conservatives, conservatives get poked in the eye.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
Obama is wrong when he says, that during WWII mentally scarred servicemen were not helped.

He needs to see the movie, Let there be light

The film follows the progress of a particular intake of men returning from active service in various theatres of war. These men have returned deeply disturbed by their battle experiences and we follow their progress as they are helped to come to terms with their distress and to rebuild their fragile lives.

9 posted on 05/27/2008 6:52:42 PM PDT by syriacus (30,000 US deaths in Korea in 2 1/2 years, because Truman first withdrew troops from Korea in 1949.)
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To: gate2wire
Don’t want to defend this racist liar, but in this case, he claimed to have “heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka.” Doesn’t claim his Granddad was there.

As was pointed out, this must have been Obama's Soviet brethren his grandfather was talking about.

10 posted on 05/27/2008 6:59:11 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Ted Kennedy is the finest collection of hops and barley money can buy)
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To: VeniVidiVici

And...don’t you think if his uncle, or great uncle, actually helped free ANY concentration camp, he would have bragged about THAT back in 2002 rather than saying his grandfather supposedly knew some guys who were there? LIAR.


11 posted on 05/27/2008 8:28:14 PM PDT by informavoracious (Freedom Isn't Free)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

I believe his grandfather enlisted in January of 1942, not June.

Still not the day after, but closer than the following July.


12 posted on 05/27/2008 9:06:28 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SeafoodGumbo
he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka.

That can be spun, and this scumbag Obama will surely spin it. It depends on the meaning of "fellow troops". Anyway, don't you know that B. Hussein was merely talking about "...his personal experience of a soldier in his family..."?
LMAO!

13 posted on 05/27/2008 9:13:15 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: KoRn

Now, thats just too much to ask for. Blow hard Obama just can’t control himself.


14 posted on 05/27/2008 9:15:40 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: informavoracious

Yes, of course Obama is a liar. A pathetic one.
There are very few liars as good as Bill Clinton, and most of them are at ADX Florence.


15 posted on 05/27/2008 9:26:50 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Treblinka was never really liberated by anyone. The Nazis blew everything up and razed it to the ground. When the Russians arrived, there was nobody alive there to liberate; only the ashes of the victims.


16 posted on 05/27/2008 9:37:36 PM PDT by Campion
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To: informavoracious

Obamahammod’s campaign has put out (yet another) clarification on what he really meant. That it was his *great*-uncle that helped liberate Buchenwald.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080528/ap_on_el_pr/obama_nazi_camp

He meant Auschwitz was a kosher store outside of Philly.

Oh, and describing Soviet Forces as, well, Soviet Forces, is so yesterday. Now it is proper to call them Progressive Forces.


17 posted on 05/27/2008 10:22:51 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Ted Kennedy is the finest collection of hops and barley money can buy)
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18 posted on 05/27/2008 11:09:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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