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Obama's Numbers Are Tanking
MrPolitics/blog ^ | 15. May 2008 | Mr. Politics

Posted on 05/18/2008 1:03:31 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

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To: RockinRight

This is your best case map, but I wonder about NM, IA, WI, and VA.


41 posted on 05/18/2008 4:21:13 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: Theodore R.

NM and IA I agree...but no way Obama wins VA against McCain.

Hillary could beat McCain in VA though.


42 posted on 05/18/2008 4:27:05 PM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Bttt


43 posted on 05/18/2008 4:27:10 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Theodore R.

I used to hang out at an all-night diner about 5 or 6 years ago. Most of the clientele were middle aged white blue collar men, mostly Union, mostly auto worker types.

Listening to these guys talk, there were only two things they hated more than Republicans. Black people, and Muslims.

Lotsa guys like that in PA and OH.


44 posted on 05/18/2008 4:29:40 PM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: Theodore R.

Furthermore, it’s gonna hit like a ton of bricks when the Dems realize that Obama lost because of racism...when they see that it was racist DEMOCRATS that didn’t vote for him. Let’s see them blame THAT on the GOP...

(I’m sure they’ll find a way...)


45 posted on 05/18/2008 4:30:50 PM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: bill1952
Even if McCain got more actual votes than Obama, it doesn't matter. The bosses in the Philadelphia political machine will manufacture just enough votes to put Obama over the top.

I suspect the same thing will happen in Detroit.

46 posted on 05/18/2008 4:33:20 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Jet Jaguar

Obama is not only polling badly in Pennsylvania but has fallen within the margin of error in New Jersey and New York. If he can’t carry New York and New Jersey, he’s toast.


47 posted on 05/18/2008 4:49:30 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Clemenza

I’m not convinced that Obama can take New Jersey.


48 posted on 05/18/2008 5:02:15 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions
We shall see. While I don't see the blue collar white vote in places like Middlesex County and the Philly suburbs in the South (which have been reliably Dem in the past couple of election cycles) going for Barry, I don't see them turning out in large numbers either. For McCain to win, he needs to get a sizable chunk of the Hispanic vote in Passaic, Essex, and Union Counties and/or the Indian and Korean American vote in Middlesex, Mercer, and Bergen counties.

I still see it as a 2-3 point win for Barry, but if NJ is called for McCain early in the evening, the election is over.

49 posted on 05/18/2008 5:10:42 PM PDT by Clemenza (I Live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Crashes)
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To: Born In America
Deep down, they know bho can not win the general....

One might think so, but the 'rats have a potentially bottomless capacity for self-deception. That's why they are 'rats after all.

50 posted on 05/18/2008 5:13:53 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Crimson Elephant
I think as of now that Obama will have a hard time carrying Ohio. Nobody cares any more about Robert Taft or his cronies, as the 'RAT attorney general just had to resign after turning his office into a pigsty of sexual harassment. And nobody really buys the McCain=Bush equation except the true believers.
51 posted on 05/18/2008 5:20:33 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

I think that the Demwhit fight may go down to the convention. I hope this fight opens the eyes of moderate Democrats and they leave the party. I fear that Denver will take some damage in the process.


52 posted on 05/18/2008 5:55:09 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Obama pledges to give every typical small town white family a possum sandwich)
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To: Question_Assumptions

That would be something.


53 posted on 05/18/2008 6:37:09 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Theodore R.

>but the Copperheads were loyal Democrats too.

and outright nuts.


54 posted on 05/18/2008 6:41:52 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Clemenza
For McCain to win, he needs to get a sizable chunk of the Hispanic vote in Passaic, Essex, and Union Counties and/or the Indian and Korean American vote in Middlesex, Mercer, and Bergen counties.

I don't think that's all that difficult. For the first demographic, circulate pictures of those Obama supporters with Che Guevara Cuban flags to shore up the Cuban vote and McCain's compromise stance in illegal immigrants, while unpopular with conservatives, could help him with this demographic, too. As for the Koreans and Indians, bring in Bobby Jindal to campaign for him.

55 posted on 05/18/2008 7:09:40 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

We really need to thank Rush and all members of “Operation Chaos” that “bloodied up” Obama. Without OC this would have been over long ago, instead look at what has come to light about BHO that would have remained in the shadows.


56 posted on 05/18/2008 7:32:00 PM PDT by Finatic (this species has amused itself to death)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Looks like WI will come over from the dark side. I think Obama is screwed.


57 posted on 05/18/2008 9:36:29 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama: "America is the greatest country on earth, help me change America.")
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To: Clemenza

While I definately see PA going for McCain, I see Obama taking NJ by 2-3%...

...sorry, disagree...Obama takes PA by 2% and NJ by 5 or more...never, never underestimate the power of Philadelphia to dictate to the PA legislature, including cheating...this election will be razor thin, though if HIlary were in it she’d beat McCain easily, winning both FL and PA, and contending in OH...


58 posted on 05/19/2008 7:22:14 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Finatic

We really need to thank Rush and all members of “Operation Chaos” that “bloodied up” Obama...

...exactly what did el rushbo do to ‘bloody up’ Obama...


59 posted on 05/19/2008 7:28:40 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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