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A Blatantly False Swipe?(Len Savage On the Warpath Against NRA)
WarOnGuns ^ | 05/14/08 | WarOnGunsBlog

Posted on 05/14/2008 7:08:05 PM PDT by Copernicus

Yesterday the government has redefined what a machine gun is--any firearm that malfunctions and fires more than one round before jamming. [US v. Olofson]

I am awaiting the transcript of the hearing, however:

Judge Clevert [I am told] stated is does not matter what ammunition, or what error rate ATF testing has, or that a malfunction occurred, or even if it required ATF to modify the firearm, just that more than one round be fired per function of the trigger.

Every firearm in possession of your membership is a "machine gun" under this narrow interpretation. This is scientific fact, not my opinion. For example:

*A double barrel shotgun firing both barrels with a single trigger pull.

*A Colt single action loaded with thin primer ammo. [the pierced primer will "fan" the hammer with gas pressure] Look up Georgia machine gun statute, they exempted it by stating

a machine gun must fire more than 6 shots per function of the trigger.

*The ATF firearms technology branch can test a rifle 100 different times, if they can manipulate it just once out of 100, your indicted.

(Excerpt) Read more at waronguns.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Society
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; armedcitizen; banglist; ccw
The ATF Technical Branch has managed to pull a fast one and there will be hell to pay.

Len Savage is apparently ready to go to the mat about it with the NRA.

Best regards to all,

1 posted on 05/14/2008 7:12:00 PM PDT by Copernicus
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To: Joe Brower
For you to consider....

Best regards,

2 posted on 05/14/2008 7:14:42 PM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Copernicus
A Youtube "backgrounder" for those unfamilar with the case:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMBqZ4D2-ME

Best regards,

3 posted on 05/14/2008 7:18:55 PM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Copernicus

Isn’t the SCOTUS decision due soon on the Heller/DC case?

Maybe we can get some of the, shall not be infringed back.


4 posted on 05/14/2008 7:19:41 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: Copernicus

Does anyone else feel that those who are supposed to be on OUR side have abandoned us for expedience and warm fuzzies so as not to make those who hate our guts angry?


5 posted on 05/14/2008 7:22:47 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Copernicus

bump


6 posted on 05/14/2008 7:26:10 PM PDT by piroque
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The NRA has been "in the business" for a loooong time.

http://www.nrawol.net/

Best regards,

7 posted on 05/14/2008 7:29:09 PM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Copernicus; All

“Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats”

- Henry Louis Mencken


8 posted on 05/14/2008 7:29:59 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: Copernicus

Let the GOA handle this one. I haven’t seen a thing out of the “no compromise-no results” group since I have been posting on FR.

Len Savage probably isn’t a member of the NRA anyway.

On a more technical note, it doesn’t matter if the gun could function at all. It depends on if the PARTS in question were from an M-16. My understanding of the case is the selector was able to swing to the third position which made this a hopefully soon constitutional, but for now an illegal, act.


9 posted on 05/14/2008 7:30:35 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: LeGrande
Maybe we can get some of the, shall not be infringed back.

Maybe we need to just tell our employees-the Government-it is time they did the job we hired them to do and to stop all the other nonsense.

Best regards,

10 posted on 05/14/2008 7:31:24 PM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Copernicus
A bunch of nonmembers demanding MY DUES should bail someone out?

Let me know how much you paid into this guy's defense fund.

11 posted on 05/14/2008 7:33:56 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Personally, I no longer give the NRA ANY MONEY.

Talk to me when the NRA parachutes into your neck of the woods uninvited and unannounced and projectile vomits behind closed doors without peer review or public comment all over the project you have spent months of work to complete. All those phone calls and voter/politician meetings and discussions just gone! Poof!

It WILL happen to you and you WILL be ticked when it happens.

Best regards,

12 posted on 05/15/2008 6:10:00 AM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Copernicus

This whole Olefson case is just terrible. I feel terrible for the guy and if I had some money to spare, I would surely be sending it to his defense fund. I only hope that he’s allowed to stay out on bail while his lawyer takes his case to the 7th circuit court. The best thing for him right now is to get noteriety in the news media so that the ATF and the justice system can’t swipe him under the rug.


13 posted on 05/15/2008 7:21:27 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Copernicus

And you’re still dumb enough to post an article begging for the NRA’s help.

Don’t even bother posting articles about the NRA. You aren’t a member. You don’t know anything about the organization. You don’t want their help. Go sit in the corner somewhere because the adults have work to do.


14 posted on 05/16/2008 5:13:32 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Tweeeet! Flag on the play! Unnecessary inappropriate ad hominem. 10 yard penalty for disgracing the image of the NRA with juvenile public behaviour.

Comment again when you have read the source material and can talk knowledgably about the topic with appropriate deportment and demeanor.

15 posted on 05/16/2008 7:00:42 PM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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