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Free Republic | May 12, 2008 | conservatism_IS_compassion

Posted on 05/12/2008 5:31:32 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion

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1 posted on 05/12/2008 5:31:33 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: Obadiah; Mind-numbed Robot; Zacs Mom; A.Hun; johnny7; The Spirit Of Allegiance; ...
Ping.

2 posted on 05/12/2008 5:33:48 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Thomas Sowell for President)
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To: LS
Ping.

3 posted on 05/12/2008 5:34:32 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Thomas Sowell for President)
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Wow, very well done!


4 posted on 05/12/2008 5:39:05 PM PDT by ladyinred
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Excellent thesis, CIC .... only read about 3/4 of it (it IS a long read!), but with this post it becomes a 'bookmark' as it were (or in your effort to define "conservatism", a set of values to return to) ... will read the rest 1/4 later ...

Good Work ... Kudos for a job well done

MM

5 posted on 05/12/2008 5:46:49 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: June K.

~~~ PING ~~~


6 posted on 05/12/2008 5:49:50 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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Very Good, thank you.


7 posted on 05/12/2008 5:56:28 PM PDT by mojo114
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Excellent analysis CIC.

This is why I say that the media-industrial complex is not the free press of the Founding Fathers. It literally is not, since the pretense of objectivity was unknown in those days. With the writers’ biases plain to all, readers had a fair chance to judge the truthfulness of their claims and positions. Today’s media, by pretending not to have a bias, deny the audience that chance and present their biased material as objective truth.
The pretense of objectivity is the key to the power of the media since their various activist campaigns and biases would be ineffective without it.

The media-industrial complex as we know it today is an unelected, unaccountable shadow government based on a falsehood; that is, the claim of objectivity and neutrality.


8 posted on 05/12/2008 7:50:16 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: Mr_Moonlight

MM,

Thanks!

A very good read!

June K


9 posted on 05/12/2008 8:06:20 PM PDT by June K.
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

OUTSTANDING!
OUTSTANDING!
OUTSTANDING!

As important as anything I have EVER read.

BTTT!


10 posted on 05/12/2008 9:01:22 PM PDT by PGalt (Thanks so much for the ping c_I_c!)
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c_I_c for President!


11 posted on 05/12/2008 9:04:16 PM PDT by PGalt (Who is this guy?)
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Excellent thesis, CIC .... only read about 3/4 of it (it IS a long read!), but with this post it becomes a 'bookmark' as it were (or in your effort to define "conservatism", a set of values to return to) ... will read the rest 1/4 later
Thanks to all for your kind responses!

I felt I had something, even tho it clearly is long - so much so that I actually did a save in the middle of it, like the good(?) old days - and it saved my bacon because it got so windy here yesterday that I had a power dropout!! I still had to reconstruct a paragraph or two . . .

And I recognized that the paragraphs are long, too. But I reached a limit internally, and just wanted to get it out. Thank you for your indulgence.


12 posted on 05/13/2008 1:10:27 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Thomas Sowell for President)
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BTTT


13 posted on 05/13/2008 2:57:57 AM PDT by E.G.C. (To read a freeper's FR postings, click on his or her screen name and then "In Forum".)
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Excellent as always - and thank you for including me in your list of recipients. I learn something each time from your thoughts and words.

I believe another word which earmarks liberal thought - one which is consistently used by them when appealing to the people: “community”.

I have lost all sense of the real meaning of the concept of community now as it has been shredded and altered and frightenly so exclusionary I wonder why nobody says something.

Where would they? In the media? That’s a joke.


14 posted on 05/13/2008 5:06:47 AM PDT by imintrouble
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BUMP! BUMP! BUMP!


15 posted on 05/13/2008 6:04:40 AM PDT by PGalt
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Ping.


16 posted on 05/14/2008 4:59:05 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Thomas Sowell for President)
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I am going to read this and the previous links in their entirety when I have more time. Thank you for pinging me, CIC.


17 posted on 05/14/2008 5:26:44 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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This is pretty good stuff. I really liked it because you did not use a lot of big words (;D) and it actually made complete sense to me.

Thanks!

I’ll be saving this thread for a while.


18 posted on 05/14/2008 5:48:56 PM PDT by Radix (The Army Times will not let me post "their images" of OUR Troops on Free Republic)
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Her "chattering classes," as the British call them -- journalists, academics, writers, "talking heads" and "intellectuals"
The current breed otherwise known as Marxists.

And, yes, Marxists hate Israel.

. . . and it's hardly as if we lacked the same "class" (I see it not as plural but as singular, all one thing) here in our beloved republic. Not only hating Israel, of course - but hating her for her similarities to ourselves. IMHO if we could turn just one of those "classes," we would turn them all.

Our fundamental problem is that journalism as we know it - not "the press" as the Founders knew it but journalism as we know it - is monopolistic by design, and therefore is arrogant and self-righteous. "The press" as the Founders knew it was fractious and openly partisan - in every direction. I go so far as to suggest that the newspaper which Jefferson sponsored, the better to attack Hamilton and to respond to the attacks by the newspaper Hamilton sponsored for the reciprocal purpose, was the embryo of the original Democratic Party. But open partisanship is actually humility, compared to claiming objectivity. After all, objectivity implies wisdom - and arguing from a claim of your own wisdom is sophistry.

sophist
1542, earlier sophister (c.1380), from L. sophista, sophistes, from Gk. sophistes, from sophizesthai "to become wise or learned," from sophos "wise, clever," of unknown origin. Gk. sophistes came to mean "one who gives intellectual instruction for pay," and, contrasted with "philosopher," it became a term of contempt. Ancient sophists were famous for their clever, specious arguments.
philosopher
O.E. philosophe, from L. philosophus, from Gk. philosophos "philosopher," lit. "lover of wisdom," from philos "loving" + sophos "wise, a sage."

"Pythagoras was the first who called himself philosophos, instead of sophos, 'wise man,' since this latter term was suggestive of immodesty." [Klein]

Modern form with -r appears c.1325, from an Anglo-Fr. or O.Fr. variant of philosophe, with an agent-noun ending. . . .

4 Advances that Set News Back, from Steve Boriss at Washington University in St. Louis, suggests how "the press" changed from the fractious cacophony of independent voices of the founding era into the unitary propaganda monster which calls itself "objective journalism" today.

Triple Cross: How Britain Created the Arab-Israel Conflict
American Thinker ^ | May 14, 2008 | Rachel Neuwirth


19 posted on 05/15/2008 6:29:27 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Thomas Sowell for President)
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In the blogsphere, look at how the pendulum is swinging back, c_I_C. Blogs share content almost along the same word-of-mouth model you described in your piece. Granted, most of the content is entertainment-driven, but that’s not to say that the content could never be news-driven as well.


20 posted on 05/15/2008 9:05:29 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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