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To: Mr. Silverback
Could you elaborate? Is it your contention that the average mom at YFZ didn't know that her daughters would be expected to enter into arranged marriages?

I think the issue is not arranged marriages but underage pregancies. I think it is clear that many people at this compound do not know what outside society's version of normal is. I guess you can say they should have known but I've always considered that argument weak. I think that many of these women have no reference point outside of the compound from which to judge the activities inside.
14 posted on 04/22/2008 1:38:03 PM PDT by microgood
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To: microgood

You posted, “I think it is clear that many people at this compound do not know what outside society’s version of normal is.”

This is my point, I don’t think many freepers know what outside society’s definition of normal is.


15 posted on 04/22/2008 1:43:59 PM PDT by wastoute
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To: microgood
I think that many of these women have no reference point outside of the compound from which to judge the activities inside.

I see, and you make a good point. That would, however, mean they were just as unqualified to be a guardian as someone who knew those standards and violated them anyway.

18 posted on 04/22/2008 1:54:10 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: microgood
If you believe that underage pregnancy is the point of preven guilt on the part of the parents then you must support that that guilt applies to each and every parent who have an underage daughter who ends up pregnant. They took all the children and yet they do not even claim that all of the children were abused or harmed. Are we now going to vilify a religion because we don't agree with what they believe even before we have any proof of wrong doing??? Are we willing to castrate parents of their parental rights even before an allegation of abuse or harm has been made??? This thing totally stinks from any point of view that accepts that we are a nation ruled by laws. This whole situation is a knee jerk reaction that was caused by a lie. People need to start asking themselves the quest of why did the local authorities believe this lie without any attempt of verification. It seems to me that they just couldn't wait to get into that place. If someone called in a lie about how you were treating you children wouldn't you want the local cops to check out the authenticity of that report before the took you to court and took your children away?????
I hate the thought of child rape, it would be a capital crime. I think religious zealots are dangerous. I do support justice. Justice under our laws should be the right of every person mo matter if we agree with their religion of not.
20 posted on 04/22/2008 2:08:56 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: microgood; Mr. Silverback; All

“I think that many of these women have no reference point outside of the compound from which to judge the activities inside.”

One of the FLDS women interviewed on FOX had only been with the sect for a short time. She knew of the *outside* world.

One thing I do know and every cop will tell you: Ignorance of the law (even moral law)is no excuse.

If a *parent* doesn’t know when their children are being hurt or abused, they don’t deserve the title nor the children.


21 posted on 04/22/2008 2:15:47 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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