Posted on 04/18/2008 4:04:57 PM PDT by PurpleMountains
I just returned home from seeing the premiere of Ben Stein's new movie, "Expelled:No Intelligence Allowed". I was amazed that such an important movie that addresses serious questions would be so enjoyable and have such great entertainment value. The movie exposes Darwinism and the crushing of scientific inquiry going on in this country. Darwinism is the foundation science of modern liberalism, and just as liberalism is a failed philosophy and imposes political correctness to stifle debate, so is some of Darwinian theory wrong, and scientific study and debate about it is simiarly stifled. I urge everyone to see this movie and spread its messsage.
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I saw the movie today, and did not leave with that impression. The movie is built upon the dubious fact that the Scientific World is controlled by people that do not accept and will not consider the possibility that ID occurred. The movie demonstrates the intolerance of those in the scientific community that even consider ID as a possibility, even if their scientific work is not affected by whatever personal beliefs they hold. I left the movie with an understanding of how intolerant and vindictive those that control the money in the scientific community are.
Metaphorically, the movie is this: Someone presented a theory that the Chicken came first. Those that even consider the possibility of the egg coming first are ostracized, fired, demeaned and attacked by those ascribing to the paradigmatized theory. Basically, those ascribing to the paradigm display as much tolerance as todays run of the mill liberal.
From all the shut ups and name calling on this topic, I can see that this is not limited to the arena of science. Before anyone attacks me, I have not indicated my personal opinion on this matter, so do not attack me for what you 'think' my ID position is.
Is that what I said?
Far from it.
You wanna find out what I think, we can meet on a chat service, and if you will actually read and consider my answers, you may learn something new.
In any case, I will have it understood that I don't play on a field where my touchdowns don't count by definition. Besides, posting on FR is really just a sort of entertainment.
Can you offer any scientific evidence for ID?
All I want is science. You claim ID is science. Please, please offer some scientific evidence FOR ID.
But being lied about is not. As I understand, it’s expected.
There you go thinking again.
ML/NJ
“They just attack natural selection.”
Natural selection is not the issue. I haven’t heard anyone make substantive arguments about NS. There are many observed examples of NS.
The issue is whether or not NS could eventually cause new species to develop. There are no observations of new creatures evolving during NS, notwithstanding the gyrations the evolutionists have gone to in order to make some scenarios fit.
It's a nasty habit. I will break it right after I quit beer and Doritos
“They explain how it may possibly have happened.”
Hey, that’s all it takes for the evolutionists to declare victory. Just the ‘possibility’ is all they care about.
Can YOU provide empirical evidence of ID?
I hope so. I did a cut and paste from your post
Didn’t Darwin find God at the end of his life?
There exist many more examples of an old earth but that doesn’t stop a large subset of creationists for insisting that all that data is wrong.
Does that matter?
I suppose we all find God at the end of life, but if you mean a death bed conversion, no. That was a lie. He was agnostic over the death of his small child.
Also, didn’t he renounce evolution?
I’ll bet Darwin thinks so!
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