Posted on 04/18/2008 11:39:55 AM PDT by Jenny Hatch
UPDATE: Friday April 18
The "Sixteen year old girl." A hoax???
I am SPITTING mad. Texas authorities better have those children back in their mothers arms by tonight.
"A 33-year-old Colorado Springs woman has been questioned about a telephone call that sparked a raid at the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints compound in western Texas two weeks ago.
Rozita Swinton was arrested at her home Wednesday night by Colorado Springs police for an incident that occurred in February. Members of the Texas Rangers were also in Colorado Springs as part of their investigation.
"The Texas Rangers were in Colorado Springs (Wednesday) as part of their investigation involving the compound in Texas. They left and have not filed any charges on Rozita Swinton as of this time," said Colorado Springs police spokesman Lt. Skip Arms.
Colorado Springs police said the arrest warrant has been sealed and refused to release any other details, reported Deseret News."
(Excerpt) Read more at naturalfamilyblog.com ...
Did you know that this Rozita girl is LDS? It is proported she is a member of the Colorado Springs, East Stake.
I am sorry Jenny but 13, 14, 15 and 16 year olds pregnant is abuse.
Mothers who allowed such behavior are just as guilty.
Laws on Polygamy in US
In 1862 the Thirty Seventh Congress passed a law which effectively outlawed polygamy in every province and territory of the United States, including and especially in Utah. Be it enacted ... that every person having a husband or wife living who shall marry any other person, whether married or single, ... shall ...be adjudged guilty of bigamy and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding five hundred dollars, and by imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years... And be it further enacted that ... all other acts or parts of acts heretofore passed by the legislative assembly of the Territory of Utah which establish, support, maintain, shield, or countenance polygamy, be, and the same hereby are, disapproved and annulled... And be it further enacted, that it shall not be lawful for any corporation or association for religious or charitable purposes to acquire or hold real estate...of a greater value than fifty thousand dollars.
United States Revised Code, Section 5210
I hope they have more than you say on these dirty old men. No excuse for old men bedding children.Lol!
Why didn’t Texas do something sooner. You can look at the women and tell something very wrong with them. Hit in the head too many times or something.
I only posted that because of what tomorrow happens to be.
Waco Tx and the Branch Davidians should be well remembered by everyone.
While I’m not going to sit here and condone 50 year old men having sex with 16 yr old girls, I will say that these folks have their beliefs. They may skirt the law in some manner - and this “spiritual marriage” stuff is obviously “wrong thinking” in my mind as well as others’ minds... but nevertheless America is a country with FREEDOM OF RELIGION (not freedom from).
With the noted exception of radical Islam, I’d say that when the government starts interfering with religions, they are going against the Constitution.
By the way, today is “Patriot Day”... the day the “Shot heard around the world” happened in 1775. Tonight would be the 233rd anniversary of Paul Revere and William Dawes rides warning that the war was beginning.
Tomorrow is a day that many things happened in history...(Of course many things happened in history on any given day of the year, and 19 April is no different in that respect than any other... but certain things stand out...)
Bay of Pigs
Pope Benedict XVI is elected
OK City bombing
USS Iowa Gun Turret explodes killing 47
The Branch Davidian Compound is burned to the ground ending the 51 day seige
The USSR detonates a nuclear weapon in Kazakhstan
Executive Order 9066 recinded (Send ethic groups to iternment camps)
Sierra Leone becomes a Republic
General Douglas MacArthur retires
Warsaw Ghetto uprising
US abandons the gold standard
Shots are fired in the American Civil War. US troops attacked by pro-Secession mob in Baltimore
Flora Jessop, an outspoken ex-member of the FLDS group, told KUSA-TV she believes Swinton may have been the person she spoke with by phone, who claimed to be Sarah's twin sister.
The incident of making a false report that she was arrested for had nothing to do with the compound in Texas, and it appears that the calls to Jessop came after the raid, and were made as someone claiming to be Sarah's twin.
They don't appear to be accusing her of being Sarah, at least at this point.
PS - If anyone in the Fundamentalist LDS church is breaking the law then, sure throw the book at them, but if the only crime these people have committed is "being different" and raising their children out of the mainstream of society....LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!
Well the Bishop's own records show evidence of polygamy, and since some of these kids were obviously pregnant before the age of consent, polygamy isn't the only crime that has been committed there.
If society wants to take an underage pregnant girl from her family, why not start with Jamie Lynn Spears. Prosecute her boyfriend for statutory rape and absolve her mother of all parental rights.
While Spears and her boyfriend are obviously not good role models, He was 18 at the time and she was 16. Since he was less than three years older than her at the time, so in California it would have been a misdemeanor, and if they had sex in a different state, it may not even have been illegal. So basically they don't have a case to prosecute.
If you also don't recognize that there is a difference between two teens having sex, and a man in his 50s or 60s having sex with a teenage girl, and in some of these cases, apparently years younger than Spears, then you have serious issues of your own.
Whose next? The Amish? The Mennonites? The Muslims?
If they are polygamous and have older men having sex with much younger women, they should be locked up regardless of their religion. You can't abuse children like this and then hide under the guise of religious freedom.
The most visible family I see "grooming" children in obscene sexual behavior, immodesty, and living a lifestyle that is DAMAGING to babies and children is in fact the lifestyle of Britney and Jamie Lynn Spears. Go harass them if you want to do some good for the country.
So because the Spears family is an example of moral bankruptcy, but not not necessarily breaking the law, the government should ignore the crimes of the people in this "church"?
I guess you feel that any action is ok if completely unrelated acts that you disapprove of aren't being declared illegal and prosecuted by the government in a completely different state?
Jenny, everyone was concerned about the rape and abuse that these children were suffering in that Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints of Jesus Christ cult, but they are safe now and being treated well.
Let us just pray that the adults are brought to justice.
SAN ANTONIO, TX— In the complex interaction between the State of Texas and the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a San Antonio-based non-profit has a simple task. And, it turns out, a big job.
Fortunately, it’s used to the work load.
Baptist Child & Family Services was tasked by the Texas Governor’s Division of Emergency Management to take the lead in providing shelters for the women and children from the FLDS Yearn For Zion ranch.
In the past few years BCFS has gained a national reputation for its expertise in such operations. Last month the Federal Emergency Management Agency asked it to be a “subject matter consultant” to develop a “functional template” for special needs shelters.
BCFS also is in charge of training Texas cities in setting up such facilities and will begin doing the same for the State of Nevada later this month.
“We are in San Angelo purely and simply to take care of women and children,” said Kevin C. Dinnin, president of BCFS and the “incident commander” for the sheltering operation. “We were not part of the circumstances that brought them here and have no input in what will happen in the future. We’re here to make sure they have safe, clean places to sleep, access to medical care, healthy food and people who care about them.”
Did you know that this Rozita girl is LDS? It is proported she is a member of the Colorado Springs, East Stake.
Did you know that this Rozita girl is the Obama state delegate representing El Paso County Precinct 269?
Imagine that! A black Mormon for Obama!
Actually they are in the custody of CPS. Considering how many foster children have been assaulted, molested, abused and killed with in foster care it does not necessarily follow that they are safe and being treated well.
And when the children cried out we are being bred so that the men can rape us, Texas replied, ‘children we will help’
“While I’m not going to sit here and condone 50 year old men having sex with 16 yr old girls, “
But when they get busted for it, here you are.
Make that 12, 13, 14,15, not just 16, and there may be worse to come.
Except that the "children" that "cried out" turns out not to be a child or someone from the FLDS group.
Now if the informant that the sheriff had on the inside of the FLDS group for four years had asked for help, that might be something.
But none of that matters. They're weird. Let's grab their children.
That is one, crazy, messed-up young woman! But I guess we'd better not jump to any conclusions. All of this is alledged, and she is due her process.
Yes, here he is.
Demanding that the state have something more than a hoax phonecall before seizing people's children.
How dare he get in the way of a mindless mob.
COLORADO CITY, Arizona (Reuters) - In a dusty neighborhood under sheer sandstone cliffs studded with juniper on the Arizona-Utah border, a rare genetic disorder is spreading through polygamous families on a wave of inbreeding.
The twin border communities of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Arizona, have the world's highest known prevalence of fumarase deficiency, an enzyme irregularity that causes severe mental retardation brought on by cousin marriage, doctors say.Arizona has about half the world's population of known fumarase deficiency patients," said Dr. Theodore Tarby, a pediatric neurologist who has treated many of the children at Arizona clinics under contracts with the state.
Tarby met with about 150 FLDS members in November, explaining that the disorder was not caused by tainted drinking water as rumored but by cousin marriage.
The Colorado City/Hildale area has the world's highest incidence of fumarase deficiency,[53] an extremely rare genetic condition which causes severe mental retardation. Geneticists attribute this to the prevalence of cousin marriage between descendants of two of the town's founders, Joseph Smith Jessup and John Yeates Barlow; one local historian reports that 75–80 percent of the double-communities' roughly 10,000 inhabitants are descended from one or both of these men.
“Actually they are in the custody of CPS. Considering how many foster children have been assaulted, molested, abused and killed with in foster care it does not necessarily follow that they are safe and being treated well.”
Knitebane, the children were rescued from one of the worst child abuse cults in our history and they are being protected from that cult, that is a good thing.
The state of Texas and the Texas Rangers are not a mob, they are law enforcement and they rescued kids from rapists.
But you are angry about it, that is a mob trait.
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