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Give em back. Texas Raid Based on a LIE??? (Blog Post includes video news clip)
The Natural Family BLOG ^ | April 18th, 2008 | Jenny Hatch

Posted on 04/18/2008 11:39:55 AM PDT by Jenny Hatch

UPDATE: Friday April 18

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The "Sixteen year old girl." A hoax???

Just read this on WND.

I am SPITTING mad. Texas authorities better have those children back in their mothers arms by tonight.

Jenny Hatch

"A 33-year-old Colorado Springs woman has been questioned about a telephone call that sparked a raid at the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints compound in western Texas two weeks ago.

Rozita Swinton was arrested at her home Wednesday night by Colorado Springs police for an incident that occurred in February. Members of the Texas Rangers were also in Colorado Springs as part of their investigation.

"The Texas Rangers were in Colorado Springs (Wednesday) as part of their investigation involving the compound in Texas. They left and have not filed any charges on Rozita Swinton as of this time," said Colorado Springs police spokesman Lt. Skip Arms.

Colorado Springs police said the arrest warrant has been sealed and refused to release any other details, reported Deseret News."

(Excerpt) Read more at naturalfamilyblog.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: cult; flds; jumptoconclusions; mormon; poligamy; polygamy; swinton; texas
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OK Texas, Give those children back to the parents!

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That whole "they were having sex with underage girls in the temple thing" has been used against poligamists for over a hundred years.

Religious persecution, pure and simple.

If society wants to take an underage pregnant girl from her family, why not start with Jamie Lynn Spears. Prosecute her boyfriend for statutory rape and absolve her mother of all parental rights.

Not these families.

Jenny Hatch

PS - If anyone in the Fundamentalist LDS church is breaking the law then, sure throw the book at them, but if the only crime these people have committed is "being different" and raising their children out of the mainstream of society....LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!

Whose next? The Amish? The Mennonites? The Muslims? Anyone who wants to homeschool? This is America for crying out loud. We were created on the principle of Religious Freedom. You Nanny State Bullies get out of the homes, bedrooms, and religious sanctuaries of "We the People".

The most visible family I see "grooming" children in obscene sexual behavior, immodesty, and living a lifestyle that is DAMAGING to babies and children is in fact the lifestyle of Britney and Jamie Lynn Spears. Go harass them if you want to do some good for the country.

1 posted on 04/18/2008 11:39:55 AM PDT by Jenny Hatch
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To: Jenny Hatch

If teenage pregnancies are such a scandal these days, why do the Democrats shield Planned Parenthood from reporting suspected child abuse when a minor comes in for an abortion?

Clearly a number of the pregnancies (and funding for the abortions) come from adult males.


2 posted on 04/18/2008 11:43:56 AM PDT by weegee (Religion is the opiate of the masses MARX1843 They get bitter, they cling to...religion OBAMA2008)
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To: Jenny Hatch
Nice equivocating defense of child rape, Jenny.

Again: the YFZ Ranch warrant was not based solely on phone calls, but also on the visual testimony of sworn witnesses.

3 posted on 04/18/2008 11:44:13 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Jenny Hatch

This could be hugh!


4 posted on 04/18/2008 11:45:39 AM PDT by weegee (Religion is the opiate of the masses MARX1843 They get bitter, they cling to...religion OBAMA2008)
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To: Jenny Hatch

Tomorrow 19 Apr ‘93 is the 15 years anniversary of the inferno at Waco and the last time I turned on my TV. We’re not doing a good job of speaking up for anyone these days.


5 posted on 04/18/2008 11:48:31 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Jenny Hatch

BS, the kids in custody have nothing to do with you post.


6 posted on 04/18/2008 11:48:57 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Jenny Hatch

“if the only crime these people have committed is “being different””

Thank you for going on record as considering child rape as just “being different”.


7 posted on 04/18/2008 11:51:13 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (A true patriot will do anything to keep a Democrat out of the White House.)
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To: wideawake

I have not read the info on smoking gun yet, but if authorities had specific info, why did they not go after specific perps. There is probably a lot we don’t know, but this sure looks like a fishing expedition to me.


8 posted on 04/18/2008 11:51:48 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: wideawake
Nice equivocating defense of child rape, Jenny.

That is the damn truth, some fool screaming about how law should be governed by a silly ass news blog.

9 posted on 04/18/2008 11:52:08 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: wideawake
Nice equivocating defense of child rape, Jenny.

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No kidding.

10 posted on 04/18/2008 11:54:50 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wideawake
Yeah I agree here. Word is that they have indeed recovered young girls pregnant at 13. There's no denying that Jeffs was marrying off young girls to old men, some possibly against their will and all are statutory rape. On the other hand, I sympathize with those who are upset that the government is far more interested in going after religious sects that are plagued by allegations of abuse than they are in making sure that "planned un-parenthood" is investigated and punished for covering up evidence of underage rape. There's no denying that the government is applying a double standard here with religious versus secular forms of rape.

I'm more torn about it than I expected to be. I agree that there are certain abuses going on here that need to be stopped and punished, but the image this gives off of the government raiding the entire group indiscriminately isn't too pleasing either. In the end I think they'll probably uncover enough cases of abuse to warrant such a massive interruption, but right now it's tragic all around.
11 posted on 04/18/2008 11:56:31 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: Jenny Hatch
if this woman falsely reported the incident, she should be sued until penniless.

If by executing a warrant based on her information additional threats to the safety of the children were found, prosecute to the fullest extent.

Mennonites, Amish, or any other Protestant denomination do not practice polygamy, sanctioned incest, or pedophilia as part of thier religious practices.

The FLDS, like Mormons, have no root in either Catholicism, or Protestantism

I suspect what will happen is that the FLDS will tie this into a legal boondoggle by the sheer numbers

12 posted on 04/18/2008 11:56:44 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: DonaldC
I have not read the info on smoking gun yet, but if authorities had specific info, why did they not go after specific perps.

There are different legal threshholds required for a search warrant and for an arrest warrant.

The State of Texas wisely decided to build its case one step at a time.

13 posted on 04/18/2008 11:57:50 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Jenny Hatch

All the big inner cities practice a worse form of polygamy, they just sleep around indiscriminately and move on down the line. Plenty of pregnant 12 and 13 year olds!It’s all government subsidized too!
The religious link seems to be what upsets the gubmint, it sure ain’t the thought of older men sleeping with young girls.


14 posted on 04/18/2008 11:58:53 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Jenny Hatch
“That whole “they were having sex with underage girls in the temple thing” has been used against poligamists for over a hundred years.

Religious persecution, pure and simple”

No, it's called breaking the law. They should be locked just for the polygamy alone.
And it seems very likely that there were perverts impregnating underage girls.

15 posted on 04/18/2008 12:01:12 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: wideawake
According to KDRO, Swinton's arrest was for a false call to police in February. A young girl named "Jenifer" claimed she was being held hostage in a basement, causing Colorado Springs police to spend most of the day searching more than a dozen homes.

Not much of a threshhold in CO apparently.

16 posted on 04/18/2008 12:07:41 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Heller: The defining moment of our Republic)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Polygamy isn’t a crime.

Bigamy is. Going through two civil sanctioned marriages.

Serial adultery isn’t criminal anymore.


17 posted on 04/18/2008 12:08:49 PM PDT by weegee (Religion is the opiate of the masses MARX1843 They get bitter, they cling to...religion OBAMA2008)
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To: Jenny Hatch; colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; ...
I found a link to a story on this:

Springs woman arrested for false reporting in raid

A Colorado Springs woman was arrested on charges of false reporting to authorities and is being investigated for her alleged involvement in the call that tipped authorities off to possible abuse at the Texas polygamist compound.

Police say they arrested 33-year-old Rozita Swinton at her home on Wednesday. The Texas Rangers were in Colorado Springs apparently as part of their investigation involving the compound in Texas.

They left and have not filed any charges on Swinton and the Colorado Springs Police spokesman said he could not discuss any aspects of the Texas case.

Our sister station KMGH in Denver found out that this is not the first time Swinton has been arrested on charges of making false reports to authorities. According to records the charge against Swinton was made in connection to calls received by police in February indicating she was 13 years old and trapped in a basement-- all a lie.

It appears the cult defenders are counting chickens before they hatch.

Jenny Hatch's Mormon Mommy Blog: Natural Family Blog. "I am a stay at home mother of five who is a non-apologetic NEO-CON! I love my country, my family, and my faith."

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18 posted on 04/18/2008 12:15:56 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?)
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To: RightWhale

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn’t a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.


19 posted on 04/18/2008 12:21:41 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Yes, indeed. Pastor Martin Niemöller’s poem should be causing some to think right about now.


20 posted on 04/18/2008 12:26:12 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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