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Obama: Government can constrain the exercise of rights. WTF?

Posted on 04/17/2008 6:33:59 AM PDT by Bobarian

Obama is quoted saying this during last night's debate:

"I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can't constrain the exercise of that right," he said.


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To: Bobarian

Every right we have gets constrained by the government in some way. We have freedom of speech, but can’t yell “fire” in a crowded theater.

So the fact he said a rather obvious statement doesn’t bother me. However, I would like to know how he would like to the government to constrain the right to bear arms. The whole Constitutional intent suggests that the government’s role in gun regulation should be quite limited.

I have no problem with the following constraints on the right to bear arms:

1. Ban on private ownership of overly destructive weapons that would not be useful in self-defense, such as a grenade.

2. Banning the possession of handguns in places where the danger of assasination is high. You can’t carry a gun when on tour of the White House, for example.

3. Keep children, the mentally incompetent, and those who have show a completely inability to use guns safely from owning guns.

I suspect Obama has more constraints in mind than these limited constraints.


41 posted on 04/17/2008 7:57:20 AM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: DManA

Exactly but for Liberals the constraint only works on the issues that they say .... and if you disagree then maybe Obama will have the federal govt constrain your rights by labeling you a racist, bigot, conservative that is guily of intolerance and hatred and should be stifled for the sake of the government .....

Obama is a socialist tyrant who thinks that he is above the common man so far above that he wil REQUIRE us to do things “For Our own good”...

Be very afraid..


42 posted on 04/17/2008 8:02:45 AM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Prepare to do your time as Corvee labor on the Plantation of Barack and Michell Obama.)
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To: Bobarian

O’Bama is sounding odder and odder every passing day.


43 posted on 04/17/2008 8:05:21 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: DManA

Isn’t that what the law against the performance of partial-birth abortions is all about? And the laws that require a judge to approve of a minor’s abortion if there are reasons she can’t tell her parents? And laws that mandate clinics go through counseling with a patient before they can perform an abortion on her?

Clearly laws that prevent a person who committed a felony or who has been committed to a mental institution from owning a gun are constraints on their Constitutional right. Do you think these laws are unconstitutional?


44 posted on 04/17/2008 8:58:27 AM PDT by edweena
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To: Jeff Head

Yea Half-White-Non-Wright was a Marine an obtained the high horsepower of PFC which is the grade of E-2 in the Marine Corps after three years of service. “Color that Dud.”

I glad there are Freepers like SJackson and You who are “Men of Honor “ on this site, along with the other top notch freepers.

Respectfully,
NSNR


45 posted on 04/17/2008 9:11:53 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (Xin Loi My Boy!!!!)
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To: MrB

MrB, it does not, if the person has the ability, the opportunity and places one’s or anothers life in jeopardy.

We do have the right to defend our selves in America, unless I woke up in Russia this morning.

I enjoy it when Obama keeps revealing his true self and marxist/islamic teachings.

If Obama wants our guns, well my answer to him is “Come and Take Them, If You Dare.”

Piss Off A Liberal By Another Gun,
NSNR


46 posted on 04/17/2008 9:18:38 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (Xin Loi My Boy!!!!)
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To: DManA

Someone posted the right designation for Obuma and his ilk. “The Enemy From Within.”

Obuma will not be elected for there are more of us Patriotic Americans, who have always loved our country and way of life.

Obama is a demon, who seeks to charm the brain-dead into voting for him.

Here in Alabama we say,” Obuma, It Is Not Going To Happen On Our Watch Boy.”


47 posted on 04/17/2008 9:25:00 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (Xin Loi My Boy!!!!)
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To: RabidBartender
>This is why an ignorant moron like Obama will lose. He is essentially denying that all rights come from our Creator. What a stupid candidate.<

Don't count on it! When I look at the fact that the ONLY candidates left in the race are all socialists, I am not encouraged with the intelligence of the voters.

48 posted on 04/17/2008 9:39:29 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( Rope, Tree & Traitor; Some Assembly Required || Gun Control Means Never Having To Say I Missed You)
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To: bamahead

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49 posted on 04/17/2008 10:38:31 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: DManA

For the record, I do NOT believe the Constitution confers abortion rights, SCOTUS notwithstanding.

I threw that one in there to bait our Liberal adversaries who believe abortion IS an inalienable right that should have no constraint whatsoever.


50 posted on 04/17/2008 3:55:33 PM PDT by Bobarian (Your NEED is not a legitimate claim upon MY productivity, thank you very little.)
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To: RabidBartender
Good catch. Now my panties are in an even bigger wad.

It can't be repeated too many times:

The Constitution does not grant the right to bear arms. The Second Amendment says that the right to bear arms, a right which already exists even without the Constitution, shall not be infringed.

51 posted on 04/17/2008 4:04:05 PM PDT by Bobarian (Your NEED is not a legitimate claim upon MY productivity, thank you very little.)
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To: Bobarian
"But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can't constrain the exercise of that right.

Anyone want to tell him that that's an argument for Jim Crow laws?

52 posted on 04/17/2008 4:10:07 PM PDT by onewhowatches
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To: DManA

Very well stated. Glad somebody got why I included the “right” to an abortion in my list.


53 posted on 04/17/2008 4:15:05 PM PDT by Bobarian (Your NEED is not a legitimate claim upon MY productivity, thank you very little.)
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To: ravingnutter

Okay, but can I still cling to my guns and religion?


54 posted on 04/17/2008 4:18:24 PM PDT by Bobarian (Your NEED is not a legitimate claim upon MY productivity, thank you very little.)
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To: Bobarian
"Shall not be infringed" is beyond his limited grasp of the English language.
Can someone translate it into Austrian for the doofus?
55 posted on 04/04/2013 11:54:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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