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Your assistance and opinion is respectfully requested.

[Grunthor]

You are new here so you will catch a lot of flack but you are only saying what everyone is thinking. They want me to vote for the GOP nominee? Give me one worthy of my vote.

[Old Sarge]

[Ingtar]

I’m watching what Dobson, Keyes, and some others are doing at the moment, hoping they present us with a palatable candidate.

[Tennessee Nana]

Thanks for the PING

[henkster]

I’m afraid most of my comments will be seen as pretty pessimistic, and I have to admit they are.

1. The 2 socialist parties are entrenched in our society. Nothing is going to keep the operatives of socialist party B (GOP) from formally nominating McCain. Nothing short of McCain’s demise.

2. The GOP exists only as the stalking horse for the democrats. It is their cultural boogeyman. In reality, it is no different.

3. The socialists have programmed the great majority of Americans to abdicate their intellect in pursuit of vain empty materialism. They have also programmed the majority of Americans to sell their independence for the promise of security. In the end, they will be controlled.

4. Things will get far worse before they get better, if they ever do.

[Supercharged Merlin]

Me, I’d gladly pull spikes all night if necessary to derail McVain. God, the “major speech” he just gave was just frightening.

But talkshow hosts and commentators are NOT POLITICIANS. Asking one of them to BECOME a politician is like asking a movie critic to write a script.

Running a Government is just like running a very large business - no matter how right and bright the top man may be, he’s got to have a team of middle management and workers that know what they are doing. The top man has to know how to select people, give them a mission, negotiate conflicts, monitor results. THAT’S what doesn’t exist in the Libertarian party, which is why it’s such a failure.

We need a Tom Tancredo or a Duncan Hunter who is willing to take the chance. And then we’d need the money and management to build an organization that would have a chance to take over the Gummint successfully if we won the election. This is where the rubber meets the road, and why Dr. Paul fails so miserably. An organization of bloggers and malcontents does not make a political party.

How to coalesce a legion of genuine Conservatives who have management smarts around a third party is the problem.

I don’t know the solution. Wish I did.

[TigersEye]

I definitely agree with your assessment of the current situation. Your idea of a petition is a good one IMO. We need a candidate. A candidate would give the necessary focal point for a grassroots movement to coalesce.

[mad_as_he$$]

The country has been infected by a worm that was introduced by a Trojan horse. The soul is already on life support. It requires a hard reboot to recover. BLOAT oh and store some food and water.

[penowa]

Thank you for the invitation. I wish I had something to add to help your effort, but I have to agree with henkster’s post # 9.

[Mr. Silverback]

Welcome to FR.

It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. No number of histrionic claims that we can only stay true to our principles by helping the anti-Semitic chihuahuas is going to make it true.

[c-b 1]

If we are to save the Republic, our attention must be focused on the House of Representatives. All spending must originate in the House, like our fellow voters, most of those serving in the House don't understand that, or care. Without money the President, can do nothing.

Our time, and effort would be better spent electing people to the House who understand the process, and are willing to stand up for the Constitution.

[The Mayor]

"A republic, if you can keep it."

We've lost it already..........

[grey_whiskers]

FRed.

[Maneesh]

I agree that McCain is unacceptable. Much as I think Obama or Hillary will be worse I will not shed any tears if McCain loses. A liberal does not deserve to be the Republican nominee.

We need a bottoms up approach. We have to take the GOP back and have conservatives run it again. The way you do that is by electing real conservatives at the local, state, congress and senate levels. I live in MA where there is no GOP so I am seeking out capable conservative candidates anywhere in the country that I will support financially and with my time. Instead of funding the RNC which will give money to RINO’s and McCain let us seek out individual candidates that are conservatives and support them.

The GOP as a whole is not worthy of our support in its current form but there are good individuals in congress and senate. A third party is a very unlikely option with the entrenched organization that exists for the two parties. I think we really need to take back the GOP and then hold the once we support accountable to real conservative principles.

In fact if anyone knows of worthy conservatives running specially for congress let me know. I have allocated a certain amount of time and money which I will allocate to upto 10 candidates. If all of us were to adopt even 1 or 2 deserving candidates I believe we can make a difference. The White House is lost no matter who wins, we have to initially create an obstacle in congress and then retake it with real small govt, self reliant real America loving Republicans.

[grey_whiskers]

I wrote a vanity on "A Republic, If You Can Keep It."

You might have inspired another. :-)

Cheers!

[DBrow]

I don't think that it is possible to change the convention output. The GOP tried very hard to select McCain, imo. They won't rock the boat or allow dissent to the coronation.

If I were to monkeywrench the process I'd put up an independent VICE PRESIDENTIAL candidate.

Constitutionally it is not required to have the P and VP slots paired- it's just the two parties who like it that way.

What do we gain? Several million people actually reading the constitution, for one, and possibly a conservative VP.

My 2c.

[tacticalogic]

Sick of only having people to vote against, and nobody to vote for bump.

[Ethrane]

I for one take Dr. Franklin at his word. We have not been good stewards of the republic given to us.

It’s not enough to just get the ‘message’ out...there needs to be a viable alternative...I wanted Fred, but that’s not an option now.

I’ve continually returned RNC mailings with a response such as ‘you want my money, and you give me McCain’? Take a hike. The RNC gets not a cent from me until they give me a conservative reason to donate.

I’m giving all my political money usually sent to the RNC to conservatives in ANY state at the congressional level...this will be, at this point, the most effective way to try and put in place a conservative agenda.

Put me on your ‘list’...I’m interested.

[o_zarkman44]

I don't care much for McCain. But he is the lesser of the three evils. Now if someone else can come along that, in this late stage of a campaign raise 50$ million dollars to campaign as an independent, and be capable of winning and not brokering a victory for a DemoRat, I could be supportive.

The talk of a 3rd party uprising has been nothing but talk for at least two decades. I supported Ross Perot and he had a chance until he got frustrated with the media bias.
Certainly any candidate outside of the two party lock we have now would face certain annihilation by the press.

I support everything you are saying. But I am fearful that real change in the attitude of the political leadership is going to have to be forced. The election process is rapidly becoming a farce and nearly an exercise in futility.

Getting our country back on track is going to take a lot of slapping around the incumbents for starters. But even there I see a reluctance to throw out the incumbents.