Posted on 03/05/2008 6:53:47 PM PST by Sun
Hillary wins in Ohio - she's the new comeback kid, thanks to all the Republicans who voted for her.
John McCain thanked the Independents and the "Independent Dems," as he put it, for voting for him.
Dems and Independents voted for Senator McCain in the early primary states, which is what gave him momentum, which is why the Republicans now have a liberal Republican.
Rush Limbaugh was saying that the Dems and Independents also voted for McCain in 2000, so this is tit for tat.
“I predict Obama & Hillary will kiss & make-up and share the ticket.”
I agree.
We just didn't have anybody really conservative, and really exciting to pick from. Even Fred Thompson's supposed 'draft' went nowhere fast. And I had a Thompson bumper sticker on my car! There was no conservative front-runner on January 1, 2007. Things might have been very different had there been one.
I'm glad that we have the chance to wreak havoc on the Rats. I love the fact that "selected, not elected" will apply to the Rat nominee coming out of Denver instead of GWB. I'm happy that we have a chance to alienate either the rabid feminazis or the African-American voters from the Rat party for at least a generation.
“Well since all candidates are basically the same no loss, ..”
There is a loss, because the Republicans got the 2nd most liberal presidential candidate out of the bunch, due to the facts that Dems and Independents could vote in the early primaries, thus giving McCain traction to win future primaries.
A few weeks ago Cross-Over Voting was a Capital Offense here at FR.
This week Cross-Over voting is sacrosanct.
I can't imagine Michelle Obama going along with whatever muck the Clinton team dishes out to her and her husband. There is no way Obama will get to be a powerful Veep like Cheney, not with Bill around 24/7.
Isn't it rather degrading in a human, not racial or sexist but human, way to be insulted by such a ruthless witch in such degrading ways and then after to be her #2?
While it’s nice getting even, and what could we do, they started it, we are still stuck with three liberal presidential candidates, and one will be our president.
I digress. My point is, if those two could join together, and give the Dems the ability to repeat "vodoo economics" for years, then nothing said or done by Hillary and Obama will keep them from getting together. However, I would not do anything with Hillary were I Obama. He gets tarred with her corruption if he is her VP, and if she is his, he gets a big target on his back, courtesy of Hillary Baines Clinton.
She gains by having him as VP; she gains nothing by being his VP--she is too old. She would be better off working against him behind the scenes in the general (as she did against Kerry) and hoping that in 2012 people still remember her.
Nope. Numerically she cannot win without the super delegates voting against the popular and delegates. She is going to push to have the Florida and Michigan elections validated and then she’ll beg, steal, extort, or bribe the super delegates to make sure she “wins”. The Obama voters are not going to be happy.
“sort of like John Kerry serving in Viet Nam all the time”
John Kerry was in Vietnam??
AHAHAHAHAHAHA. Sorry.
I don’t think I could vote in a Democrat primary just out of sheer embarrassment, y’know? But it’s going to take s%^t really hitting the fan before enough people take this whole conservatism thing seriously in this country. I can’t think of anything to facilitate that any sooner than 4 years of Obama.
The RNC is as culpable as the left in the nomination. They have left us with what they THINK is mandate of some sort, and we will vote McCain just because he has an “R” next to his name, like it or not. Their gamble will probably not pay off. As has been stated, I am not sure that they even want the “R”’s to win. Heck we even have Rove out telling us not to use Obama’s middle name.
And yet the RNC, and the GOP have the nerve to email us and send mail to our homes telling us they must raise money to support him. Hey, RNC, GOP, good luck with that! My donation went to pay for my groceries, gas, and oil. If there is anything left, I would certainly NOT send it to you!
I will support, whenever I can, Conservative Congressmen.
The very premise here is doubtful. Democrats are riled up and frantic to be voting for Obama and Hillary - to make history, don’t you know. While Republicans may be taking part in the Democrat primarys, the opposite is unlikely to be true. Is the suggestion that on top of the staggeringly huge Democrat turn-out, an additional staggeringly huge number of Democrats turned out to vote for McCain as well?
If so, if Democrats outnumber Republicans by 5-1 as those numbers would suggest, and are actively out voting, we’re in for a very painful 8 years.
I second that!!!
Hey, your comments are spot on as well. I'm not giving a dime to the RNC, let them hit on the blue-blood country clubbers for donations since McCain is their kind of guy.
I do know and I couldn't either, even if Rush Limbaugh got some of his "mind-numbed robots" to do his bidding, this "mind-numbed robot" couldn't ever. Eeeuuu!!! I truly enjoy Rush's show for many years and then he goes all Clinton News Netwhacko all of the sudden. Anyway, sorry for changing subject.
After another Clinton retread replay, or an Obama, perhaps, even McCain, I seriously wonder how much success conservatives would have in regaining any semblance of political clout. They blew it royally in 1994, and continued to blow it until the voters officially told them to take a hike in 2006.
If I could choose the Democratic candidate, I’d pick Zell Miller.
We chose poorly, not because of Dems voting, but because most of the party faithful’s fear of Hillary. Almost every arguement in favor of their candidates was, “He can beat Hillary!” Hell of a criteria for selecting the leader of the free world.
Operating out of fear instead of being governed by principle led to McCain getting the nomination.
And I am still voting for Duncan Hunter.(unless a great third party candidate comes along)
thanks for the ping! :)
Seriously, DOES THAT HELP?... I would think they should have figured it out by now, many on the base we are not happy with the way Macaca was chosen - by independents... But then again, I have the feeling many of our unhappy customers will end up voting for him anyway... and so my thinking is, ACTIONS ARE LOUDER THAN WORDS, and we end up being exactly all NOISE but not action, then I ask myself, why would the party bosses change anything? :)
See my point?... It's such a basic rule of life I don't know how you can get around it.
Furthermore I actually think it's in the BENEFIT of our politicians and party bosses to ALLOW "independents" to vote in order to water-down the conservative's vote, which I am sure they consider "extreme," and damaging to the party. In other words, politicians care about one thing above all: getting elected...and they can certainly weasel their way best, in and out and around us, as long as the can maintain the voters "divided." Off balance, so they can apply the old triangulation thing...
I generally dislike politicians because I don't trust them. But I RESPECT them for being the ultimate con-artists that they are, smart, charming, etc. I mean look at is happening with Macaca himself...Even with the Internet and all the communications we have today... We still can't defeat them. They somehow, directly or indirectly, as we see it here in FR with the constant 'propaganda' :) that we *** MUST *** vote for any piece of s*** given to us... because!... oh yes, the "less of two evils," or other BS like that.
The elitist Republicans aren't even trying to hide their agenda anymore!
God help us.
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