Posted on 02/01/2008 12:06:25 PM PST by Man50D
Of course there is a yoke. We do not own the fruits of our labor. The government owns the fruits or our labor and feasts off the first fruits, before we’ve tithed, taken care of our families or saved a penny for retirement. That is a yoke. We are slaves; able to keep only that portion that our master allows us to keep.
“The first of the first fruits of your ground you shall bring to the House of the Lord your God.” —Exodus 34:26
I am not able to bring the first of the first fruits to the House of the Lord because of the immoral, Marxist income tax. I resent it and I will fight it with every fiber of my being.
Yes. When you make the statement as follows:
No one with serious questions regarding the FT seriously advocates "maintaining" the income tax,
You are de facto advocating for the abolishment of the IRS and the income tax, are you not? And are you not positing that none of your anti comrades are in favor of maintaining the income tax?
"Bug off" is not a sufficient answer to the question.
Amen.
You-don't-get-to-ask-me-any-more-questions.
Is that clear enough for you?
I really think I'm gonna cry.
So please tell us just what it is that they SAID that you disagree with?
It ignores what has been successful in many other countries around the world in the last 50 years (some longer), It ignores the socioeconomic impact of "radical change", It ignores history, and the governments abysmal record of turning "populism" into unmitigated disasters, and generally, "what does not solve the problem, is not a solution"
It ignores what has been successful in many other countries around the world in the last 50 years (some longer), It ignores the socioeconomic impact of "radical change", It ignores history, and the governments abysmal record of turning "populism" into unmitigated disasters, and generally, "what does not solve the problem, is not a solution".
You have said all of these things dozens of times. When are YOU going to show some shred of evidence or authoritative analyses substantiating your prophecies of doom?? You haven't yet.
A presidential panel, many economists, many state sales tax departments, political scientists, and sociologists, have come out opposed to the FT ....
You said this before; I asked for some links; you posted a list of sites as proof; but, only one that damned the Fair Tax was a ,no doubt, overpriced tax lawyer, protecting his bread and butter.
Want to try again?
/waits for the usual assault
Still trying to pick another fight I see. Good luck.
Yeah, I guess he does have a Constitutional right to be wrong.
And the moderator was already informed of your brandy-new "who wants to pick a fight" post on the new thread... You are being watched... closely.
Res Ipsa Loquitur.
So now you have taken to whining to the Moderator -- how admirable. But, it might behoove you to quote me accurately -- which you certainly did not do, if the above quote is what you cried about.
Please try to get it right the next time.
You:
“You will take note that the same old same old is coming from the same old same old — uh — people.”
Followed by groanup:
“Yes. And how do they find these threads so quickly? The only way is to troll FR by keyword, poster or topic. Who has the time to spend all day and night doing that? Paid disruptors?”
FRiendly as a fuzzy kitten, eh?
groanup: Then we agree on that pointHELLO!-------
groanup again, after responding to the answer he didn't like:
Do you advocate maintaining the existence of the IRS and the income tax or not?
Are you taunting him here or what? Is taunting him with the same stupid irrelevant question really on topic here?
The only reason you want an answer is so you can use it against him. Unfortunately for you you didn't get the answer you want, so you continue to ask the same irrelevant, stupid question over and over and over...The same irrelevant, stupid question you people have been hounding him for months to answer. So he answers the question and not 30 minutes later you asked the same irrelevant, off topic, stupid question again that you even responded to.
Whether he works for the IRS, or does taxes for Democrats, or invented Turbo Tax is irrelevant to the passage of the Fairtax. You people try to make it an issue because frankly, obviously that's all you have...
Apparently, as evidenced by all this "answer the question, answer the question" nonsense the Fairtax can't stand on it's own merits.
Those quotes surely DO speak for themselves!
Now tell us what part(s) of them you specifically disagree with.
#213 applies to you, too.
You are doing whatever may be left of your credibility great harm here.
So you are now admitting that your purpose is not to debate the issue at hand but rather to disrupt any thread dealing with the FairTax by any means necessary.
It's about time!
Thank you!
Most FT’s, especially a certain few, seem to have a jihad going to trash a thread when real debate breaks out and they’re getting their butts kicked, which by the way, happens quite often.
No one has said that it does but what has been quoted from it on this thread lays out some basic principles of taxation which I will repost here to refresh your memory.
“The tax which each individual is bound to pay ought to be certain, and not arbitrary. The time of payment, the manner of payment, the quantity to be paid, ought all to be clear and plain to the contributor, and to every other person, so that the tax payer is not put in the power of the tax gatherer.”
Adam Smith, The Wealth of Nations
Now which of those basic principles do you disagree with?
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