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RINO CHART - Issues and Ratings Update
1/23/08 | dwar

Posted on 01/23/2008 2:45:30 PM PST by DWar

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To: Domandred
Romney is the best on guns of all the viable candidates. Thompson and Hunter are OUT and Huck is not viable.

McCain has a C+ from the NRA. Romney has a B from the NRA and Mitt's gun bill in Mass was endorsed by the NRA. And the other option, McCain, is far worse on this issue (and many other issues!).

Questioned about gun control, McCain said existing laws should be enforced, noting that the Clinton Administration has been "derelict" in doing that. But he also said that he supported the recent gun control legislation passed by the Senate and he also said that in light of the recent spate of shootings, new proposals by the Clinton Administration should be looked at by Congress and not dismissed out of hand. http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/08/18/president.2000/thompson.mccain/

McCain flipped on guns
Senator McCain supported the interests of the Gun Owners of America 0 percent in 2005. (that's not good)
Senator McCain supported the interests of the Gun Owners of America 100 percent in 2006. (wow, what a convenient flip!)
Based on lifetime voting records on gun issues and the results of a questionnaire sent to all Congressional candidates in 2004, the National Rifle Association assigned Senator McCain a grade of C+ (with grades ranging from a high of A+ to a low of F).

41 posted on 01/24/2008 8:35:05 AM PST by redgirlinabluestate ( United 4 Mitt - 2 Stop McCain, Huck & Rudy)
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To: DWar

Good sir, I don’t wish to be on anyone’s ping list, thank you.


42 posted on 01/24/2008 8:42:26 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: redgirlinabluestate; Unmarked Package

After reading Unmarked’s Romney page I think I might give him an 8 on the list instead of a 5 on Guns. 5 I can see for sure though because he would have signed the AWB (but won’t seek to create one).

Thanks for the linkage.

Keep in mind I gotta give myself an 8 as well because I am for instant background checks (but against any waiting period longer then about an hour).


43 posted on 01/24/2008 8:53:20 AM PST by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: DWar

Thanks for the PING


44 posted on 01/24/2008 8:57:22 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: IM2MAD
I wondered why Keyes was excluded. He IS ... still running, isn’t he?

What would lead you to believe that?

45 posted on 01/24/2008 9:02:25 AM PST by imd102
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
All you are rating is what Mitt says to get elected.

And he would be the first politician to ever do that.

46 posted on 01/24/2008 9:03:31 AM PST by imd102
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To: DWar

How about whether a candidate kept his campaign promises in the past?


47 posted on 01/24/2008 9:08:17 AM PST by tortdog
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To: Filo

I don’t think the total number is based on conservative factor alone. He also includes personal points such as electibility etc.


48 posted on 01/24/2008 9:30:11 AM PST by ajay_kumar (United we win, divided democrats win. How difficult is that to understand?)
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To: DWar
Good Work!
49 posted on 01/24/2008 9:31:03 AM PST by ajay_kumar (United we win, divided democrats win. How difficult is that to understand?)
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To: maica

I’ve taken a half dozen of those. Romney was always in the middle of the pack. But as a professonal researcher I tried as best I could to put my preferences aside and just score the candidates on what is considered conservative principles.


50 posted on 01/24/2008 9:48:40 AM PST by DWar (The perfect is the enemy of the excellent!!)
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To: DWar

I respect your work very much. A valuable service to FR files.

I guess I am just a middle of the pack person. I hope that the majority of voters from now to November are middle of the pack people, too. Fringers on either side can never make a majority.


51 posted on 01/24/2008 11:10:59 AM PST by maica (Romney '08)
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To: Filo
but any system that results in Romney being ahead of Fred in the Conservative department is clearly flawed.

Not necessarily.

This system didn't give weight for specific content.

For example, McCain and Thompson's creation of the McCain/Feingold/Thompson incumbent-protection act, known as campaign finance, was WAAAAAAAY more destructive to conservatism than say......, leadership or likability.

Heck, conservative action groups (ProLife, etc) are STILL being pummeled and destroyed today, due to that smarmy little piece of unconstitutional baloney which destroyed their ability to participate in elections.

I love Fred, but let's face it.

He was part of the good 'ol boy network in Washington DC which put the Republican Party into such a funk these past 10 years.

Getting a NEW face, some NEW ideas and leadership in DC should get someone an additional 200 points!!!!

One of the reasons why many like myself are enthused about Romney.

52 posted on 01/24/2008 11:20:30 AM PST by Edit35
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To: DWar
But as a professonal researcher I tried as best I could to put my preferences aside and just score the candidates on what is considered conservative principles.

Thanks again for your hard work on putting this together and for taking feedback into consideration for your update. I'd probably deduct some consistency points from Duncan for his endorsement of the Huckster.

You mention that you're a professional researcher, a point which I find quite interesting. If there's anymore you can share about your background as a researcher, I'd appreciate that.

Thanks for the ping!

53 posted on 01/24/2008 11:37:23 AM PST by lonevoice (It's always "Apologize to a Muslim Hour"...somewhere)
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To: Domandred
McCain turns me off on enough I'm not even gonna bother double checking his 2nd Amendment stance.

That is why I did not mention him, also, I think judy is over after the Florida vote.

54 posted on 01/24/2008 11:39:20 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Domandred
That being said I would like to see Ron Paul in the list just for comparison sake.

this loon appreciates your sense of fairness

55 posted on 01/24/2008 1:50:35 PM PST by Revelation 911
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To: DWar
On the most important issues

The hidden assumption in your analysis is that all issues are equally important; in other words a 10 on CFR/free speech equals a 10 on the 2d amendment equals a 10 on gay rights equals a 10 on Iran.

I doubt if there is a single Freeper or even a single American who feels that way.

56 posted on 01/24/2008 2:55:18 PM PST by Notary Sojac (I suffer from BDS - Bush Disappoinment Syndrome)
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To: DWar

Since you can’t be fair about this garbage (your opinions) pull me off your ping list, considering I never requested you put me on it to begin with. SPAM. Blackbird.


57 posted on 01/24/2008 3:21:31 PM PST by BlackbirdSST (Go Ron Go!!!)
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To: Notary Sojac

That is a valid concern.

I adjusted for that in the chart below the line of astrisks by establishing a priority ranking for issues and subtotalling after the top ten and top twenty issues. The methodology for determining which issues should be ranked higher is found on the former thread on this topic. The link is in the begining of the post.

In the end everyone might rank things differently.


58 posted on 01/24/2008 3:25:35 PM PST by DWar (The perfect is the enemy of the excellent!!)
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To: DWar

McCain should get lower than zero for CFR because it’s HIS BABY. I will possibly vote for anyone BUT McCain. Romney I’d do okay, Huck I’d likely stay home, same with Rudy, but I will unquestionably abstain from McCain for authoring and orchestrating the single largest assault on our rights in any of our lifetimes.


59 posted on 01/24/2008 5:38:38 PM PST by pianomikey (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. -Reagan)
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To: org.whodat

Romney is for upholding the 2nd amendment, according to his website, and he has no stated desire to go beyond an assault weapons ban. It’s still a serious issue, but not a zero. Libs want to ban every single gun in existence. 5 is spot on for 2ned amend rights.


60 posted on 01/24/2008 5:47:57 PM PST by pianomikey (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. -Reagan)
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