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GOP: The Race versus the Base (Pro-Hunter)
A Good Choice ^ | 1/16/08 | Greg Jaye

Posted on 01/16/2008 7:59:05 PM PST by pissant

Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council Action in an Update today wrote,

“The lesson that some are drawing from the results of the Republican presidential voting to date is that the race for the party's nomination is wide open. The deeper lesson is that the race for the GOP agenda is anything but wide open...

“The simple truth is that the conservative coalition--a three-legged stool--stands when social, economic and defense conservatives work together on an interlocking agenda. The coalition collapses when any of the legs is missing. (Dick) Armey and others, especially the early enthusiasts for Rudy Giuliani, suggested that the social conservative leg of the stool is dispensable, or at least that it can be appreciably shortened without impact on the greater stability of the coalition. This thesis is not only false in theory; it now has been decisively shown not to represent what the conservative coalition actually believes. The three winners of the contests to date are each emblematic of one of the legs of the stool, and each is attempting to shore up his standing with the other two "legs":

“In Michigan, these three individuals, now leading their party's nomination race, won more than 85% of the vote. The remainder went to Ron Paul (who represents the small, doctrinaire libertarian portion of the coalition), Fred Thompson (who has all three legs but is struggling to interest voters in them when his manner suggests his own lack of passion for them), and Rudy Giuliani (trailing badly now because each leg of the coalition has a much better option than he is). Giuliani's crushing last-place finish in Michigan only underscores the larger point: the GOP coalition is looking for coherence on all three parts of the message and the base constituency of the party is fairly evenly split among those who hold each of these legs highest when forced to choose among them.

"Somehow or other, if the conservative coalition is to re-form, these three legs need their favorites to unite around the strongest themes of each, to wit: 1) the surge worked, and it is no longer business as usual against radical Islamic terrorism - we will take the fight to them and win for our values (McCain); 2) the government is run with all the efficiency of a barroom brawl where the sailors are bad enough but it's actually the drunken captains doing the damage, and someone with business acumen has to clean it up (Romney); and 3) moral values are indispensable to a free nation that hopes to have and keep small government, and we can't get there without some Old-Time Religion, and those old-timers, our nation's almost uniformly Christian founders, knew it (Huckabee).

Perkins adds, “…There is probably nothing they could do that would be more unifying than to rally now around a platform that embodies the coalition in full…”

Perkins summarizes, “The message: the GOP electorate is asking its leaders to reassemble the stool, plant it firmly in the cockpit of the party, and get the plane fast down the runway and off the ground. The message to Rudy? The tailwinds have passed you by, and the party you want to lead is moving on. The race is not wide open. A unified agenda beckons the GOP to a surge of its own.”

I agree with some of what Perkins is saying, there is a Republican candidate who I believe adequately represents all three legs of the stool and that is Congressman Duncan Hunter. He has been ignored by conservative talk radio, though he is the strongest true conservative. I can understand that he is being ignored by the radically biased liberal main stream media because he is an anathema to all that they believe.

Hunter authored the Life at Conception Bill, he did something constructive about the immigration problem in his home district, San Diego, California – he built a 50 mile long fence while the amnesty loving McCain mouths promises about being the best guy to get our borders secured (LOL). He also opposed our Free Trade policy, which is economically sound than globalist Romney who like President Bush would side with Big Business over the American taxpayer and worker.

Hunter is the only true conservative I see among the GOP candidates. Huckabee, Thompson and Paul may have some of the package, but only Duncan Hunter is the complete package. Unfortunately he is being ignored pretty much by everyone. It seems like conservative talk show hosts are predominately shills for the Republican Party pushing Romney, Giuliani and Thompson as those who could win over Rodham-Clinton. To me I principles are more important than pure politics. I am thoroughly disgusted with that President Bush used me to get into office and has largely betrayed conservative principles and that is exactly what we would have or even worse with a nominee in a McCain, a Romney, a Giuliani or maybe even with a Huckabee.

I hope and pray that someone like a Representative Duncan Hunter rises from the ruins of the increasingly unprincipled GOP and gives me someone for whom I can cast a vote.


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KEYWORDS: 2008; conservative; duncanhunter; gop; hunter
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To: airborne
clearly he hasn't a clue

Even that is being generous.

21 posted on 01/16/2008 8:24:30 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant
You're lying. You just don't have the mental acumen to understand how the Political Compass works, so you lash out at that which you do not understand.
It places political ideology on an X,Y graph, rather than as linear Left-Right.
And John Edwards was on the Authritarian side, not Libertarian.
 
22 posted on 01/16/2008 8:25:28 PM PST by counterpunch (GOP Convention '08 — Go For Brokered!)
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To: counterpunch

Edwards was right next to Ron Paul, the most libertarian candidate in decades. Go look, Punchdrunk


23 posted on 01/16/2008 8:27:51 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: davidosborne; airborne; Antoninus; GulfBreeze; processing please hold; RasterMaster; ...

>>>but only Duncan Hunter is the complete package.

The steakiest steak!


24 posted on 01/16/2008 8:28:06 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: airborne

Just wait. Any delegates Hunter gets will be directed to Huckabee.


25 posted on 01/16/2008 8:28:23 PM PST by counterpunch (GOP Convention '08 — Go For Brokered!)
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To: pissant

Edwards was significantly to the left towards communism compared to Ron Paul. Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel are the only ones actually on the libertarian — and communism — side.


26 posted on 01/16/2008 8:30:45 PM PST by counterpunch (GOP Convention '08 — Go For Brokered!)
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To: jan in Colorado

Yep. Michael Reagan has been good to Hunter though.


27 posted on 01/16/2008 8:30:50 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: counterpunch

>>>Duncan Hunter will be throwing his support to Mike *uckabee, guaranteed.

You willing to put money on that guarantee? I will donate $500.00 to FreeRepublic if Duncan Hunter throws his support to Mike Huckabee for the 2008 Presidential Run.

You care to donate $500.00 if he doesn’t?

If you are in for the bet, let’s ping the mods for confirmation.

I have a few I’ve made for this election. I will pay up on them if I need to. But, I some how doubt it :)


28 posted on 01/16/2008 8:31:18 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: counterpunch

And so Kucinich is a libertarian? ROFLMAO. A libertarian socialist. That makes alot of sense, Punchdrunk.


29 posted on 01/16/2008 8:32:22 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: counterpunch
Your haterd for Huckabee is leading you down the path to the dark side.


30 posted on 01/16/2008 8:36:35 PM PST by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: pissant

YES!!!! That is exactly it!


31 posted on 01/16/2008 8:37:20 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: counterpunch

Fair Trade is a conservative position. Fair trade is not to be confused with cartelization. SOCIALISTS advocate cartelization. That is what we have with China. China is not a free market. Cartels control foreign and domestic markets. Cartels are dominated by private groups without public responsibility. If a private group controls a man’s livelihood, it can control both his actions and philosophy. Duncan Hunter is the ONLY man in this election that is not controlled by the cartel. Duncan Hunter is the only one that doesn’t have his actions or philosophies controlled.


32 posted on 01/16/2008 8:37:38 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: counterpunch
It's is quite obvious that FREE trade with these folks is DANGEROUS! Only Hunter is willing to take a stand against the communists.
33 posted on 01/16/2008 8:38:12 PM PST by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: pissant

Remember, his coloring pages are Made in China.


34 posted on 01/16/2008 8:38:27 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: counterpunch

Hunter has said he is in this until the end. I respect that.


35 posted on 01/16/2008 8:38:30 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: pissant

What is significant is that it showed just how close Hunter and *uckabee really are. They are shown bunch together with no other candidates close to them.

Just look at the list of similarities.
There is no other candidate in the race as close to *uckabee as Duncan Hunter. You cannot deny that.

You are obviously weighting your comparison based on personal style and campaign themes. Yes, Hunter makes immigration, military, and trade much more prominent than *uckabee’s populist campaign, but issue for issue, Hunter and *uckabee come down on the same side closer and more often than any other candidate.

When compared on paper dispassionately, *uckabee is the closest candidate to Hunter in the GOP field. I think *uckabee has the most positions Hunter would approve of in the race, which is why he will throw *uckabee his support for the nomination.

You can’t argue against these simple FACTS, so you attack me with ad hominems instead.
But you can’t stop me for opening others’ eyes to the truth.


36 posted on 01/16/2008 8:38:56 PM PST by counterpunch (GOP Convention '08 — Go For Brokered!)
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To: pissant

Your favorite troll is on a roll!

37 posted on 01/16/2008 8:39:46 PM PST by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Yes, Hunter is in it til the end.
I don’t doubt that either.
But where does the end lead?

It leads to Hunter’s delegate(s) eventually going to someone other than him at the convention.
And that someone other is going to be Mike *uckabee, not Fred Thompson.


38 posted on 01/16/2008 8:40:36 PM PST by counterpunch (GOP Convention '08 — Go For Brokered!)
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To: pissant

What puts Kucinich and Gravel on the “libertarian” side is their support for legalizing drugs, soft on crime, and such.
So yes, a libertarian socialist indeed.


39 posted on 01/16/2008 8:42:20 PM PST by counterpunch (GOP Convention '08 — Go For Brokered!)
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To: Calpernia

Actually, the Political Compass is made in England.
Get your facts straight.


40 posted on 01/16/2008 8:43:24 PM PST by counterpunch (GOP Convention '08 — Go For Brokered!)
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