Posted on 01/16/2008 7:59:05 PM PST by pissant
My dryer’s lint trap is more interesting than you. That was a joke because you said your chart followed Asian Standards.
I don’t see the harm in that. If he is going to lose anyway, what difference does it make? He needs to be seen because he is the best man for the job. The longer the better.
If everything else is wrong on your chart, punchdrunk, than why would Hunter and Huckabee’s location be correct? That’s right, it isn’t.
Hunter has STELLAR record on tax cuts. Huck stinks
Hunter has a stellar record on foreign policy. Huck sounds like Obama
Hunter adamantly does not want gays in the military. Huckabee thinks its not a “big issue to me”
Hunter is dead set against MFN trading status for China. Huck was a huge cheerleader for it, sending a letter begging congress to pass it.
Hunter wants mirror trade to force our trading partners to get rid of tariffs. Huck has no clue what he is babbling about on trade.
Hunter is the anti nanny-stater. Huck is the nanny.
Hunter does not believe in the global warming farce, Huck wants mandatory cap and trade.
Hunter is despised by the NEA, Huck is a hero
Hunter is a Reaganite, huck is a confused man.
Huckabee, Thompson and Paul may have some of the package, but only Duncan Hunter is the complete package. Unfortunately he is being ignored pretty much by everyone. It seems like conservative talk show hosts are predominately shills for the Republican Party pushing Romney, Giuliani and Thompson as those who could win over Rodham-Clinton. To me I principles are more important than pure politics.
***That’s pretty close to how I see it.
Bump!!
You’re a pretty dim bulb.
I didn’t say it “followed Asian standards.” Nor is it my chart.
What I said was it takes the whole of political thought into consideration, from the most extreme end of one spectrum, to the most extreme of another. It has to account for the likes of Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Lenin, Marx, Chomsky, etc. That means that some that we consider pretty far left in contemporary mainstream American politics are actually pretty mild in the grand view of history and political philosophies that have been thrust upon the world.
It is really quite unfortunate that you are neither bright enough nor educated enough to grasp that.
Can you imagine what else the fool believes if he believes his coloring book?
Interesting look back on “Free Trade” from the 1980s-90s....
Part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GecyyDHmNg
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxPigywkkKE
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ2VvviC0PQ
Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZLpULKK6XQ
Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGVcTqaKUU8
Part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSgdXlZIGx4
If one cannot learn from the JAPANESE example (our “ally), then they are bound to make similar mistakes with Chinese (a Communist enemy) and trade.
Me three, Kevmo
Just look at this chart from PoliticalCompass.org
Hunter and *uckabee are practically the same candidate.
That chart is universal, not just for America.
Most Democrats are still on the right by Old European and asian standards.
More folks are waking up to the true conservative, Duncan Hunter!!
http://www.arktimes.com/Articles/print.aspx?ArticleID=7ecd2abc-c7b0-4016-8683-adf10e6265ac
Huckabee’s record
Published 8/9/2007
For a man who did not have that much to run from, Mike Huckabee has spent inordinate time repudiating his past.
Before his campaign for president has really got off the ground, Huckabee has thrice denied any association with a good part of his record as governor — the salutary part. At least St. Peter wept over his denials.
But the apostle did not have to contend with the Club for Growth, the rich man’s fraternity that has bedeviled our former governor with charges that he was a big taxer and spender as governor for 10 ½ years, not the flinthearted reactionary he is pretending to be.
Before the cock crowed at the Iowa debates Huckabee fired off a letter to television stations and the rest of the media telling the stations not to run commercials that said he had raised taxes and spending and expanded government in Arkansas. Absolutely not true, he said. He blamed spending on the Democratic legislature and higher taxes on Arkansas voters and the state Supreme Court. All he did, Huckabee insisted, was slash government spending and fight for lower taxes.
Even Republicans would jeer if he had said that in Arkansas.
Huckabee said one of his Republican opponents was behind the commercials but that he had not identified him yet. He knew that was nonsense. The Club for Growth has not endorsed a candidate. The source of the ads is pretty clearly in Arkansas: Republican Club for Growthers who felt betrayed by Huckabee’s fiscal liberalism, mainly Jackson T. Stephens Jr., a libertarian businessman whom the governor had once promised to work for repeal of the sales tax on groceries.
The ads were precisely on point, if considerably restrained, in identifying Huckabee’s activist bent as governor. His record as a whole in taxing, borrowing, spending and expanding the activities of government makes him the biggest taxer and spender in Arkansas history. Winthrop Rockefeller tried to do more and failed. Dale Bumpers and Sid McMath served only 35 percent of Huckabee’s tenure.
It would be charitable to call Huckabee’s letter about his record misleading. It was a marvel of disingenuousness.
• It said he had balanced the state budget every year. He couldn’t have unbalanced it if he had wanted to. The law balances it automatically whoever is governor.
• It said he had cut welfare rolls in half. The 1996 federal welfare law did that.
• As for the Club for Growth’s criticism that he had raised the sales tax for recreational programs, he blamed that on the voters who had approved it at a referendum. He said he would have violated his oath of office if he had tried to thwart the voters’ will. He didn’t reveal that he had made that tax a personal crusade, stumping the state for it and taking his big bass boat down the Arkansas River to promote the tax.
• He said the ad was wrong in saying that he had raised the gasoline tax. Arkansas voters passed the tax on diesel, he said. Wrong entirely. The legislature passed his gasoline tax and he signed it into law. He signed an accompanying diesel tax, too, but it went into effect only if voters approved a bond issue. The ballot made no mention of a tax increase. They did not put the tax on the ballot because it would have been defeated. The bond issue passed.
• He claimed to be responsible for the first broad-based tax cut in Arkansas history (no, there were others), including indexing of the income tax for inflation, an increase in the standard deduction and child-care tax credits. That omnibus tax cut in 1997 was not his but the Democratic tax program sponsored by the Democratic leader of the House. His predecessor, Jim Guy Tucker, had proposed it. Huckabee signed it, his own little program having failed.
• He said the Supreme Court was responsible for the big sales tax of 2003. No, it was his and the legislature’s judgment that higher taxes were the best way to comply with the court order to equalize school spending.
• That 50 percent increase in state spending while he was governor that the Growthers cited, he said, was mainly spending under the legislature’s control, not his. No, every dollar of spending is appropriated by the legislature and every appropriation is subject to gubernatorial veto. The legislature almost uniformly adopted the governor’s spending recommendations.
• He claimed to have cut taxes 94 times. These were nearly altogether tiny deductions and exemptions that the Democratic legislature has passed every session for 50 years. He didn’t initiate them.
Here is the truth about Mike Huckabee’s reign. He was largely a passive executive, who usually left initiative to the legislature. He was roused to passion for nine initiatives, each a sharp expansion of government activity or control: the dramatic expansion of government health insurance for children, the CHART program to combat health deficiencies with tobacco-settlement funds and later higher cigarette taxes, the sales tax for recreation, the consolidation of small and middle-sized schools (under 500 students), highway taxes, and two big bond issues each for highways and universities. All made Arkansas a better place.
Mike Huckabee has chosen instead to run on the records of the governors of neighboring Mississippi and Missouri, true hidebound reactionaries. His low opinion of Iowa Republicans is probably deserved, but if they are ever given the chance they may not appreciate dishonesty.
ROFL. Thank you for posting that. I may need to put that on my profile page, courtesy of punchdrunk.
Indeed they are. And I will work to see that continue, and I don’t care what camp they defect from.
“I’m not so sure that “fair trade” is a conservative position.”
I believe it is, in the manner that Reagan treated it and as Duncan Hunter means it. Fair trade means we take care of our own citizens and not let foreign countries or stupid trade policy out Washington screw the hard working American business owners or their employees. Or as Duncan Hunter states it, a Mirror policy, we will treat you(foreign interests) just the same as you treat us(American business). You tax us, we tax you. You play fair, we will respond in kind. You screw us, we will tell you where to go.
You need to research Hunter a little better. When you say issue for issue Huckabee and Hunter come down closer, that is just insane. What you have to understand is that you are talking about talk. Hunter nor his supporters are talking about talk.
Huckabee, much like the rest of the field has talked, Hunter has done. Just because Huckabee or Fred or anyone else starts “talking” about an issue or states a position that doesn’t mean they “come down” with Hunter. Hunter has “done” things on these issues, he has lived it, not merely given lip service when politically expedient to do so.
My position on the economy is that everyone should be millionaires, but I promise you I have never done a thing towards that end. Huckabee is really no better or worse than the others who try to pretend credibility through rhetoric and position paper, yet, all their histories tell another story. I am not particularly offended by your comparison, no more so than if you stated Hunter “came down” on issues the same as any of the others.
Hunter has STELLAR record on tax cuts. Huck stinksBoth are proponents of the exact same "Fair Tax" plan.
That's has been generally true, I'll certainly give you that.
Hunter has a stellar record on foreign policy. Huck sounds like Obama
No, *uckabee wants them on their own island.
Hunter adamantly does not want gays in the military. Huckabee thinks its not a “big issue to me”
He seems to have changed his tune on that now that he's running as a protectionist.
Hunter is dead set against MFN trading status for China. Huck was a huge cheerleader for it, sending a letter begging congress to pass it.
That's true too, but *uckabee wants to mirror Hunter on trade, even if he doesn't know what he's saying.
Hunter wants mirror trade to force our trading partners to get rid of tariffs. Huck has no clue what he is babbling about on trade.
Can't argue with that.
Hunter is the anti nanny-stater. Huck is the nanny.
*uckabee is just saying that to make John McCain happy, since he wants to be McCain's VP.
Hunter does not believe in the global warming farce, Huck wants mandatory cap and trade.
In all honesty, I don't think Hunter even registers as a blip on the NEA's radar. They do love the Huckster though, that's true.
Hunter is despised by the NEA, Huck is a hero
That's sort of empty rhetoric I'd sooner expect from Rudy Giuliani, the Reaganiest 9/11 Reaganite in the race. 9/11.
Hunter is a Reaganite, huck is a confused man.
You mean the Fair Tax plan that Duncan Hunter SPONSORED?
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