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In his own words: Mitt Romney 1.2
Conscience of a Conservatarian ^ | January 8, 2008 | Mitt Romney

Posted on 01/08/2008 7:25:20 PM PST by Josh Painter

"And the reason health care isn't working like a market right now is you have 47 million people that are saying, "I'm not going to play. I'm just going to get free care paid for by everybody else." - Source

"I don't describe your plan as amnesty in my ad. I don't call it amnesty." - - Source

"I do not support and have never support a timed withdrawal." - Source

"I received the endorsement of the NRA." - Source

"I have a gun of my own." - Source

"My father and I marched with Martin Luther King Jr. through the streets of Detroit." - Source

"I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country; I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate." - Source

"My hope is that, after this election, it will be the moderates of both parties who will control the Senate, not the Jesse Helmses." - Source

"In my view, it is not a good idea to go into a [Contract With America] like what was organized by the Republican Party in Washington, laying out a whole series of things which the party said, 'These are the thing's we're going to do.' I think that's a mistake." - Source

"Look, I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush." - Source

“I remember in my earliest political experience my father fighting to keep the John Birch Society from playing too strong a role in the Republican Party. He walked out of the Republican National Convention in 1964, when Barry Goldwater said, ‘Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.’ Because he saw that as a tacit approval of the effort the John Birch Society was making to influence the Republican Party. I think that extremists who would force their views on the party and try to shape the party are making a mistake." - Source

"We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts. I support them. I won't chip away at them. I believe they help protect us and provide for our safety." - Source

"Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts. These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people." - Source

"I don't think [The Brady Bill's mandated waiting period] will have a massive effect on crime but I think it will have a positive effect." - Source

"I don't line up with the NRA." - Source

"I've been a hunter pretty much all my life." - Source

"I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years, we should sustain and support it. I sustain and support that law and the right of a woman to make that choice." - Source

"I think it would be a positive thing to have women have the choice of taking morning-after pills….I would favor having it available." - Source

"There will be children born to same-sex couples, and adopted by same-sax couples, and I believe that there should be rights and privileges associated with those unions and with the children that are part of those unions." - Source

"All people should be allowed to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation." - Source


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: fredthompson; mitt; mittromney; romney

1 posted on 01/08/2008 7:25:25 PM PST by Josh Painter
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To: Josh Painter

“I’m for change...and change...and change...and change”


2 posted on 01/08/2008 7:48:08 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Josh Painter

Romney still the GOP frontrunner.

Romney 29
Huckabee 20
McCain 9
Thompson 6
Paul 2
Giuliani 1
Hunter 1


3 posted on 01/08/2008 8:01:49 PM PST by Romneyfor President2008
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To: Josh Painter

Why is Romney starting to appear very Clintonesque?


4 posted on 01/09/2008 4:10:45 AM PST by reasonisfaith (Donating to Fred Thompson is the antidote to media bias.)
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To: Josh Painter

“”Even though I had no authority to act for the committee, I decided to call Fred Buzhardt at home [to inform him about the tapes]. I wanted to be sure that the White House was fully aware of what was to be disclosed so that it could take appropriate action.”

“There’s no documents to prove it, there’s no billing records, and Thompson says he has no recollection of it, says it didn’t happen.”

“I don’t remember that box. You know, it was a long time ago, and I don’t know if I filled it out or my staff, based on what they thought my position was, filled it out.”

‘It’s the most useless device I’ve ever heard of,’

“Does Anyone Remember What Was In The Last , Except Abortion? … If We Get Caught Up In Having A Platform Debate And Stuff Like That, We Deserve To Lose.”

“Yeah. But, but, but to, to, to have an amendment compelling—going back even further than pre-Roe v. Wade, to have a constitutional amendment to do that, I do not think would be the way to go.”

“I’m not willing to support laws that prohibit early-term abortions. I’m not suddenly upon election as a senator going to know when life begins. It comes down to whether you believe life begins at conception. I don’t know in my own mind if that is the case so I don’t feel the law ought to impose that standard on other people.”

“I do not think it is a wise thing to criminalize young girls and perhaps their parents as aiders and abettors or perhaps their family physician.”

“I think that people should be able to serve as a basis for the bringing in of their spouses and of their children, but I do not think there should be endless chain migration. So I think that is the issue to focus on, and not innocent children who are born here not of their own accord and who our courts have said our US citizens.”

“We don’t know the extent to which it’s warming. We don’t know whether or not it’s part of a cycle. We’ve had cooling periods in our country. We don’t know the extent to which man-made causes are contributing to it. We don’t know what the long-term effect of it is going to be and what we can do about it,”

“I’m not 30 years old. I don’t want to spend the rest of my life up here. I don’t like spending 14- and 16-hour days voting on ‘sense of the Senate’ resolutions on irrelevant matters.”

“And that’s what you’re talking about. It’s not a sense of the Senate. You’re talking about potential criminal law. I said those things are going to be ultimately won in the hearts and minds of people.”

“When the very people who have legislation before you are coming to you with greater and greater amounts of money for your political campaign, that creates a potential conflict of interest that we simply do not need. It does not look good. The American people think, the average Joe on the street thinks, that with that much money being paid to that few people, they are expecting something for it.”

“We are making headway to do something that will reduce the cynicism in this country that will help this body, that will help us individually. “

“I came from the real world where it was a bad idea to give hundreds of thousands of dollars to someone who had decision making power over you,”

“And so I always thought that there was some reasonable limitation that ought to be put on that, and you know, looking back on history, Barry Goldwater in his heyday felt the same thing. So that’s not a non-conservative position, although I agree that a lot of people have interpreted it that way.”

“You’re going to have to, in some way, work out a deal where they can have some aspirations of citizenship but not make it so easy that it’s unfair to the people waiting in line and abiding by the law.”

“Look, it’s just not realistic that we’re going to round up 12 million people and ship them all out of the country.”

“But figure out some way to make some differentiation between the kind of people that we have here.”

“In seeking to return the system to what it had been under FECA before those loopholes were discovered, Congress had a more than ample evidentiary record and a constitutionally proper mandate under Buckley to enact the BCRA.”

“I was single for a long time, and, yep, I chased a lot of women,”

“And a lot of women chased me. And those that chased me tended to catch me.”

“I do not believe abortion should be criminalized. This battle will be won in the hearts and souls of the American people.”

“The red pick-up truck and all was more than just symbolism. ... Took my truck and one guy.” (Of the campaign’s leased truck).

I’m not providing links for any of this, because I refuse to help in any opposition research or stupid use of quotes from decades apart without context or meaning.

I post this only to note that you can do this crap with quotes to any candidate.


5 posted on 01/09/2008 7:39:41 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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Translation: “I’m not providing links for any of this, because most of it is BS (like the truck, which wasn’t leased but purchased. It sits today in the driveway at Fred’s mother’s house). Besides, that would be real proof, which I don’t have. Anyway, I’m lazy and lack fire in the belly.”

If Mitt Romney is the GOP nominee, the Dems, who have been itching for payback, will eviscerate Romney on his many famous flip-flops, just like we did to Kerry in 2004. And they will beat the Mittster like Ginger Baker’s drums.


6 posted on 01/09/2008 8:33:30 AM PST by Josh Painter ("My idea of Gun Control is a good, steady aim." - Fred Thompson)
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To: Josh Painter
If you have learned nothing else from your interaction with me, it should be that, whatever you think of my opinion, if I post a quote it was something a news source provided as a quote. Some day someone will start posting (not here of course) extracts from Thompson's floor speeches in the senate, from interviews he gave as an actor, and things peopole remember him saying when they "knew him back then".

Some will be true, some will be fake, some will be unverifiable. You won't like the game then, and the only reason you like it now is that most of us don't want to hurt THompson and those that do get banned before anything really harmful gets out.

Fred Thompson Backers Look for Old Truck

FRANKLIN, Tenn. -- Fred Thompson's old pickup truck sits behind his mother's house in a Nashville suburb, more than a dozen years after it was credited with helping him win his first bid for public office.

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Early in the 1994 race, after struggling to connect with voters, Thompson decided to lease a used truck and drive around the state in what turned out to be a wildly successful effort to recast himself as a folksy man of the people.

The truck was leased.

From the Tennesean, March 18, 2007 article about Fred Thompson (Will Fred's old, red pickup ride again on presidential trail?):

They decided it had to be a red truck because that would be photogenic: "Red made sense. We didn't want anything too flashy, so used made sense. We wanted something that was going to be roomy because there were going to be people with him from time to time, so we got a stretch cab."

But how do you magically produce a truck matching that exact description?

"I said, 'Before the sun sets, I can find you a red truck,' " McMahan said. "I made one phone call to a friend of mine who was the owner of Reeder Chevrolet in Knoxville."

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And so it was that on Aug. 5, 1994, Senate candidate Fred Thompson parked his black Lincoln Continental and started driving a used 1990 cherry-red, extended cab Chevy pickup truck with four on the floor and almost 200,000 miles on it. The campaign leased it for $500 a month.

You challenged me. I have no intention of providing links. But you called me on a specific point, so I have provided links and references and quotes to show that what I wrote was correct).

It seems that at some time after the campaign, they must have purchased the truck, since it is at his mother's house. But it was leased, and it was leased by his campaign.

Now you could easily argue that when Thompson says "my truck", he's being literally correct since it is NOW his truck (or maybe it's his mother's truck, who knows?)

Or you could argue that when he says "my truck" he wasn't implying ownership, he simply was refering to the truck he drove.

I find NOTHING wrong with what he said. But held up to the absurd standards applied to Mitt Romney, this quote wouldn't look too good for Fred.

Which was my point, and why I'm not posting links for anything else. Every quote is from a news source, and I find no debate over whether Thompson said them or not. Most are recent, a few are old, some as old as the quotes used against Romney.

I didn't include a few especially inflamatory quotes because I'm trying to make a point about how you can unfairly hurt candidates by selective quoting, and as I said I have no desire to hurt Thompson, because he might well be our nominee and I will support him.

I could have easily done this for other candidates as well, I just picked the candidate you were most familiar with. I would be shocked if in fact there was a single quote I provided that you had not already KNOWN about, which makes your insistance that direct quotes from your candidate are somehow BS even more bizarre.

Most of them are from publicly televised appearances, complete with transcripts, that have been posted here previously.

Here's a question for you. Show me, using only quotes from your candidate or his web site, EXACTLY what his current position is on Campaign Finance Reform.

7 posted on 01/09/2008 9:24:05 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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