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Republican Debaters Ignore China Threat (Except Duncan Hunter)
http://www.newsmax.com/navrozov/republican_debate/2007/12/13/56857.html ^

Posted on 12/13/2007 9:12:58 PM PST by dit_xi

After seven Democratic presidential candidates debated on Nov. 15, CNN treated us to a debate of eight Republican hopefuls on Nov. 28.

The transcript of the debate numbers 25 pages. Its first major subject is “illegal immigration,” which runs to Page 10, or about a third of the debate.

Illegal immigration?

The word “state” in the political sense (as in “the United States of America”) implies that foreigners cannot come to and live in a “state” as they could on land owned by no one. Otherwise, the “USA” should have been called “NOLA,” “No One’s Lands of America.”

Nineteen foreigners (mostly from Saudi Arabia by origin) came into the United States in 2001 to commit the terrorist attack of 9/11. Millions of such suicidal terrorists could have come into “No One’s Lands of America” if more such foreigners would have been willing to die in the same suicidal way.

In the debate, the New York ex-Mayor Giuliani explained that the 70,000 “children of illegal immigrants” in New York had to be sent to school or they would have added to the crime statistics. Nor could “emergency care in the hospital” be denied to “illegal immigrants” and their children.

Sen. McCain, who hasn’t been exactly known as an exceptionally soft-hearted person, said that “we need to sit down as Americans and recognize that these [“illegal immigrants”] are God’s children as well. [Applause.] And they need some protection under the law. And they need some of our love and compassion.”

The solution seems obvious: The border wall, which should have been built in the past 10 or 20 years. But you know how expenses can spiral out of control; for example, the war in Iraq has been extremely costly, and its expenses may continue for many years.

That same McCain declared that the intention to withdraw troops from Iraq is isolationism, and isolationism caused World War II.

The audience was booing. So Saddam Hussein, who was suspected (falsely) of having had “weapons of mass destruction” (such as the mustard gas of World War 1) is the equivalent of Hitler, who conquered France, together with the British Expeditionary Force, in about a month.

McCain explains that the U.S. troops told him: “Let us win.” That is, give us a chance to win the war instead of withdrawing us.

Well, the war was won in 2003, and the event was duly celebrated by George W. Bush. Had Bush or McCain looked up a reference book on sale in any stationery store, they would have learned that the Shia account for 60 percent-65 percent of Iraq’s population and the Sunni for 32 percent-37 percent. Saddam Hussein was a Sunni, and the Sunni, better educated than the Shia, ruled the country. The U.S. established the Shia dictatorship. The Sunni began a guerrilla war.

What will this victory, to which McCain alludes, mean? No Sunni war against the dictatorship of the Shia who are more anti-Western and anti-American than the Sunni?

Several months ago it was assumed that the U.S. victory in Afghanistan was complete. So it was. Then it was reported that a Bible was found at the home of an Afghani who was to be executed according to the laws of the country. You would not assert, would you, that a person who kept a Bible at his home can continue to live?

Just as in the Democratic debate, China was mentioned in the Republican debate only in connection with toxic toys imported from China. It was said by Rep. Hunter that China makes, by unfair trade, a lot of money, which China needs. Said Hunter: “They are clearly [!] arming.”

I nearly fainted: to recognize that China is “clearly[!] arming”! No other presidential candidate reached aloud such a horrible, cynical, dangerous conclusion!

The word “clearly” is worth comment. The fact is that the dictatorship of China can conceal the development of nano weapons able to annihilate the United States (or the West as a whole), just as the United States concealed the Manhattan Project’s “atom bombs” until two of them were dropped on Japan. But much weaponization of space or oceans cannot be concealed and hence the word “clearly” — China is “clearly arming.”

For example, last year, a former U.S. top naval official said that China’s navy is to consist of 600 battleships, while the U.S. navy is to consist of 150 battleships. Of course, battleships on high seas cannot be concealed.

McCain defined as “isolationists” those “who were for bringing our troops home from Iraq.” But what about those who do not even mention the “China threat”? Surely China is more dangerous than was Saddam Hussein’s Iraq with his (mythical) “weapons of mass destruction.”

It is forgotten that China began to test its nuclear weapons in 1964. And today “nuclear weapons” are obsolete as offensive weapons (due to Mutual Assured Destruction), and China is developing post-nuclear (such as nano) super-weapons.

Unwilling to notice the military development of China, McCain and all the other Republican presidential candidates at the Nov. 28 debate, except Rep. Hunter, are not just isolationists, but suicidal fugitives from the geostrategic reality of today’s world.

Well, in the Democratic debate, even that four-word sentence that Hunter uttered was not heard.

Indeed, of all presidential candidates in the CNN debates, Duncan Hunter is the only one who can be taken seriously. To my inquiry “Duncan Hunter on the China threat,” Yahoo! yielded 2,760,000 items, and the second item was: “Duncan Hunter Speaks to Nevada about Chinese Threat.”

Not to understand or not to admit that a dictatorship whose population exceeds that of the United States more than four times poses a mortal threat is more irresponsible than it was to fail to understand in 1938 that the dictatorship of Germany was a threat.

It was Hitler himself who cured the free West of that blindness by seizing the “rump” of Czechoslovakia, swallowing Poland and France, fighting Britain furiously, grabbing Russia up to the Volga, and declaring war on the United States.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2008; china; chinese; dragonrising; dragonsfury; dragonsfuryseries; duncanhunter; duncanhutner; elections; hunter; jeffhead; mfn; trade
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Duncan Hunter is the only presidential candidate to bring the Chicoms to light. China is cheating on trades and they are arming with our trade dollars.
1 posted on 12/13/2007 9:13:00 PM PST by dit_xi
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To: lakey; pissant; thelastinkling; indylindy; DakotaRed; familyop; ProCivitas; calcowgirl; AuntB; ...

HUNTER PING!


2 posted on 12/13/2007 9:23:31 PM PST by dit_xi (Duncan Hunter: No nose holding necessary come election day. Right on every issue, right every time)
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To: dit_xi

I posted the same thing, I will have mine removed.


3 posted on 12/13/2007 9:44:34 PM PST by WildcatClan (Vote Hunter for President)
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To: dit_xi
Duncan Hunter is the only one who can be taken seriously.

Absolutely.

B4DH

4 posted on 12/13/2007 9:51:21 PM PST by roamer_1 (Vote for Frudy McRomsonbee -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: dit_xi

China is Godless, over populated, polluted land mass. They need a new home. Hunter knows this and clearly has seen this coming for years.


5 posted on 12/13/2007 10:35:28 PM PST by karencfga
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To: dit_xi

Everyone has been duly warned about this serious menace. If they continue squabbling about smaller issues, they will have no one to blame but themselves.


6 posted on 12/13/2007 10:36:31 PM PST by Lexinom (Build the fence and call China to account. GoHunter08.com)
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To: dit_xi

Good point. Good post. Gotta love Hunter.

Duncan Hunter most favored trade nation status for China hurts national security
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlyIe_NuEfM

Duncan Hunter/Huckabee stand up to homosexual Clinton/Corrupt News Network plant/Romney flip-flops on gays in military
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU-AFU_OiFo


7 posted on 12/13/2007 10:39:43 PM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: dit_xi
As far as I am concerned, being thrust on us the choices of:

Giuliani

McCain

Thompson

Romney

Huckabee...

I guess we have choice of

More of the Same

Morosity

Moribundity

Mormonism

Moron.

My oh my, what to say about 2008 in the G.O.P.!!

8 posted on 12/13/2007 11:49:02 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: dit_xi
Same for NORTH KOREA which sorely needs to be in this 2008 campaign, and the current Bush approach needs to be put under a microscope by the debates, and candidates come clean on whether they support the new Bush/Condi approach (and WHY), or oppose it (and WHY NOT).
9 posted on 12/13/2007 11:52:27 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Dayum, that was good. LOL! I was able to hold it together until I got to morosity and moribundity.


10 posted on 12/14/2007 2:23:10 AM PST by WildcatClan (Vote Hunter for President)
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To: dit_xi
Indeed, of all presidential candidates in the CNN debates, Duncan Hunter is the only one who can be taken seriously.

Exactly! Duncan Hunter is not a one world globalist who belongs to the CFR. He doesn't flip flop on the issues or need to out Conservative the other Candidates by pretending to be Conservative. He has been a rock solid Conservative during his political career. Hunter has been warning the people about China while the so called media anointed "top tier" candidates avoid discussing China like the plague. Hunter is the only viable candidate for President!!!!
11 posted on 12/14/2007 4:08:30 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: dit_xi

Duncan Hunter is EXACTLY who we need to lead us. He is as solid a candidate as you can have and will provide the solid LEADERSHIP he has always shown. He knows these issues and we are going to be facing serious threats in the next 8 yrs. and it is about time people wake up and get over the nonsense of ‘name recognition’ and vote for this man if they believe he is the best. If they’d stop with the defeatism he will overcome the attempts to silence the finest candidate to come around in 20 yrs. He is PERFECT for what we are facing and PERFECT for the general election. Frankly, we need him.


12 posted on 12/14/2007 6:29:18 AM PST by bushfamfan (DUNCAN HUNTER '08: the only candidate whose record matches his talk.)
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To: FreedomProtector

Fred may try to play Hunter again with China but his record shows he is asleep and deliberately ignorant like the rest of them. His record is nowhere near Duncan Hunter.


13 posted on 12/14/2007 6:30:46 AM PST by bushfamfan (DUNCAN HUNTER '08: the only candidate whose record matches his talk.)
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To: FreedomProtector

BTT!


14 posted on 12/14/2007 7:05:06 AM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: All
Indeed, of all presidential candidates in the CNN debates, Duncan Hunter is the only one who can be taken seriously. To my inquiry “Duncan Hunter on the China threat,” Yahoo! yielded 2,760,000 items, and the second item was: “Duncan Hunter Speaks to Nevada about Chinese Threat.” Not to understand or not to admit that a dictatorship whose population exceeds that of the United States more than four times poses a mortal threat is more irresponsible than it was to fail to understand in 1938 that the dictatorship of Germany was a threat.

Keep Repeating! - BTTT

15 posted on 12/14/2007 7:12:51 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE true conservative candidate.)
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To: dit_xi
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16 posted on 12/14/2007 7:18:42 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: dit_xi; mbraynard; Politicalmom; Josh Painter; ejonesie22; Bobbisox; Beagle8U; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
That's bull!

Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.) has been a strong critic of China and of the Clinton administration's policies on China.

"The fact of the matter is China has supplied Pakistan soup to nuts with... with nuclear capability and the ability to build their own missiles.
Fred Thompson "

"China is one of the world's greatest proliferators of weapons of mass destruction to these rogue nations.
Fred Thompson "

Fred was a Commissioner of the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission

FRed knows more about China, their strengths and their weaknesses, and the China threat than any of the so called contenders.
17 posted on 12/14/2007 7:48:39 AM PST by papasmurf (FRed Thompson is head and shoulders above the rest. Vote for America, vote for FRed!)
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..and who voted for Most Favored Nation status for China amongst all the contenders?


18 posted on 12/14/2007 7:52:48 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: WalterSkinner
..and who voted for Most Favored Nation status for China amongst all the contenders?

Who voted AGAINST opening up the world's largest market to opportunities for Americans? (hint: His initials are DH)


19 posted on 12/14/2007 7:59:54 AM PST by papasmurf (FRed Thompson is head and shoulders above the rest. Vote for America, vote for FRed!)
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To: papasmurf

..nice dodge of the question


20 posted on 12/14/2007 8:03:33 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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