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Ethanol: Feed a Person for a Year or Fill Up an SUV?
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Posted on 11/30/2007 4:04:35 PM PST by linuxster
Lester Brown, the president of the Earth Policy Institute wrote in a Washington Post opinion piece that the amount of grain needed to make enough ethanol to fill a 25-gallon SUV tank "would feed one person for a full year. If the United States converted its entire grain harvest into ethanol, it would satisfy less than 16 percent of its automotive needs."
Brown said the ongoing ethanol boom in the U.S. was "setting the stage for an epic competition. In a narrow sense, it is one between the world's supermarkets and its service stations." More broadly, "it is a battle between the world's 800 million automobile owners, who want to maintain their mobility, and the world's two billion poorest people, who simply want to survive."
Using food to make fuel bothers many analysts, and whether their affiliation is liberal or conservative doesn't seem to matter. Dennis Avery, director of global food issues at the Hudson Institute, a conservative think-tank in Washington, D.C., has concerns that are remarkably similar to Brown's. A few days after Brown's piece appeared in the Post, Avery published a paper showing that ethanol simply cannot provide enough motor fuel to make a significant difference in America's fuel consumption. And like Brown, he laid bare the essential question: food or fuel?
TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: energy; ethanol; hunger
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posted on
11/30/2007 4:04:36 PM PST
by
linuxster
To: linuxster
The US pays farmers to not farm. Much farmable land is not being farmed. Nobody is starving due to general corn shortages.
2
posted on
11/30/2007 4:06:51 PM PST
by
RightWhale
(anti-razors are pro-life)
To: RightWhale
Not yet... but the food/fuel issue has started a very serious upward death spiral...
3
posted on
11/30/2007 4:11:18 PM PST
by
xcamel
(FDT/2008)
To: xcamel
Corn alcohol has already peaked and is falling out of favor. It won’t survive as an alternative fuel without continued subsidy.
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posted on
11/30/2007 4:13:49 PM PST
by
RightWhale
(anti-razors are pro-life)
To: linuxster
This should be fun. I’ll bring the popcorn... oh, never mind.
5
posted on
11/30/2007 4:14:15 PM PST
by
mtbopfuyn
(I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
To: linuxster
"it is a battle between the world's 800 million automobile owners, who want to maintain their mobility, and the world's two billion poorest people, who simply want to survive." The Left will not give up their precious limousines. If the poor are starving, Let Them Eat Cake.
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posted on
11/30/2007 4:15:38 PM PST
by
Old Sarge
(This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
To: linuxster
What’s more important, feed a small village for a year, or Al Gore flies his future private corn-ethanol-powered-jet across the globe telling people how global warming will cause starvation to the worlds poor?
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posted on
11/30/2007 4:17:08 PM PST
by
coloradan
(Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
To: linuxster
My niece told me that their teacher in high school was showing them a movie about not eating meat and telling them how many loaves of bread could be made with the grain that it takes to feed one steer. I told her to ask the teacher who wants to eat hundreds of loaves of bread and say that's why we pay a lot more per pound for good beef than for a loaf of bread.
On a related note: I have a cousin who went through the whole vegetarianism thing. She wouldn't eat anything "that has a face." After years she started eating fish sandwiches. Now my dad reported to me that he recently saw her chowing down on a massive piece of prime rib! She's finally come to her senses.
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posted on
11/30/2007 4:20:57 PM PST
by
aruanan
To: linuxster
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posted on
11/30/2007 4:22:55 PM PST
by
G8 Diplomat
(Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
To: linuxster
10
posted on
11/30/2007 4:24:12 PM PST
by
B4Ranch
(( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
To: All
Talk about screwing with the free-market. 1 acre producing food has much more value then a couple gallons of moonshine.
10 fold, 20 fold, 30 fold?
To: linuxster
And when we have a drought? Do we eat dirt and/or walk?
12
posted on
11/30/2007 4:25:01 PM PST
by
Sacajaweau
("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
To: RightWhale
Corn alcohol fuels a bunch of the drunks.
13
posted on
11/30/2007 4:25:06 PM PST
by
B4Ranch
(( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
To: linuxster
How about we eliminate all subsidies and mandates and let the market decide how much food and how much fuel is produced?
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posted on
11/30/2007 4:30:31 PM PST
by
gridlock
(Recycling is the new Religion.)
To: B4Ranch
It won’t be available for $2 a gallon for that crowd.
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posted on
11/30/2007 4:31:33 PM PST
by
RightWhale
(anti-razors are pro-life)
To: gridlock
How about we eliminate all subsidies and mandates and let the market decide how much food and how much fuel is produced? You wont get many political contributions from Archer Daniels Midland executives with that kind of attitude.
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posted on
11/30/2007 5:11:07 PM PST
by
Pontiac
(Your message here.)
To: Hunterite
Talk about screwing with the free-market. 1 acre producing food has much more value then a couple gallons of moonshine. But a couple of gallons of moonshine will make a heck of a party;)
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posted on
11/30/2007 5:13:46 PM PST
by
Pontiac
(Your message here.)
To: linuxster
We can do both.
We are such a wealthy nation, with such successful agricultural system that not only can we do both, we can produce large amounts of ‘natural’ foods, which require twice as much land as other foods. We can also ‘burn’ our corn for fuel.
AND have food left over.
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posted on
11/30/2007 5:17:55 PM PST
by
Balding_Eagle
(If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
To: Sacajaweau
We have had drought every year for the past 100 years, and with a couple of exceptions, we still produced surpluses.
Hats off to one of the most resourceful groups in the history of the world, the American Farmer!
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posted on
11/30/2007 5:21:27 PM PST
by
Balding_Eagle
(If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
To: linuxster
The nice thing about ethanol is you can make it from darn near anything organic.
So we can solve the homeless problem and end world hunger and solve the fuel needs by using all the grumblers as a fuel source.
;-)
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posted on
11/30/2007 5:31:22 PM PST
by
festus
(Fred Thompson '08)
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