Posted on 11/29/2007 9:26:18 AM PST by nsmart
Arizona Senator John McCain tried to resuscitate his ailing campaign for the Republican presidential nomination by attacking Texas Congressman Ron Paul's anti-war stance during Wednesday night's CNN/YouTube debate.
But, as in previous Republican debates where leading contenders have stumbled in their attempts to attack the renegade congressman, it was Paul who ended up drawing the cheers of the crowd.
Playing his Thanksgiving visit to Iraq for political points, McCain tore into Paul for arguing -- as part of a discussion about spending -- that bringing the troops home from Iraq would save "a trillion dollars."
Just as former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani tried in an earlier debate to buff his national-security credentials by attacking Paul's suggestion that misguided U.S. foreign policies increased the likelihood of terrorist attacks, McCain attempted to burnish his image as a champion of the troops by attacking Paul -- and, by extension, all critics of the war.
Invoking memories of the American First movement's opposition in the late-1930s and early-1940s to preparation for the fight with Hitler and Mussolini, McCain declared, "it's that kind of isolationism that caused World War II."
That rhetorical flourish drew hisses from the Republican crowd that listened to the debate in St. Petersburg, Florida
But Paul did not need the audience to protect him.
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Why doesn’t the Rudy’s and the Mitt’s camps stuff more of these after-debate-sites with their votes.
1) Either they don’t like them (Mitt Rudy).
2) They all like Ron Paul based on his stand.
3) Machine glitch every time.
4) It is a conspiracy.
5) Paulians have a secret device that can alter website votes that no other candidate has.
What Paul wanted to do was issue a Letter of Marque. This would have turned the WOT over to privateers NOT special forces.
Who the hell did he/you want to send there Duane "Dog" Chapman? Chuck Norris?
Paul's a fool or a Quisling and Paulestinians are joining him. Time to jump off that band wagon!
What gave him power was his ability to destroy the tallest buildings in America's largest city.
Not going to war against the government that sheltered and facilitated him.
Sending strike forces immediately to search and destroy = Appeasement — hummm? not sure how that correlates.
You continue to retail the lie that Ron Paul was out in front of the President calling for special forces deployment.
He was not. That is something you have entirely made up.
What Ron Paul actually did do was attempt to appease bin Laden by saying that bin Laden's actions were justified by US foreign policy.
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“What Paul wanted to do was issue a Letter of Marque. This would have turned the WOT over to privateers NOT special forces.”
Even better. Imagine Blackwater going after the Bin Laden group.. it would have been their WORST nightmare. Bush could legally send special forces, too. What a group of patriots and they would have succeeded in snaring that creepy group.
Oh, things have changed. For one, we haven't had a terrorist attack on our soil since 9/11/01. Many have been thwarted, though. And the enemy has been engaged elsewhere, which has kept things much safer at home. Again, you clearly have not been exposed to true terrorism. Thank a soldier next time you see one.
Do you mean like all the neocons who have never served?
When and how have you served?
Ron Paul was in the military and gets the most donations from them of any GOP candidate.
That load of fertilizer has been properly debunked time and time again. Your saying it over and over again does not make it any closer to the truth.
If you are reading bravado from this grandmother, clean your glasses.
Perhaps you should clean yours. I said "false bravado." Acting as if you are not afraid of "a few terrorists" when you have never been around terrorists is false bravado.
For me, Ron Paul had a nice hit on the Amero/NAFTA Highway stuff, he was quote correct when he said:
“It’s not a conspiracy, it’s just thatno one is talking about it..”
He was correct on that point...very correct.
Then of course he blew it by adding “We need to get out of iraq” stuff...ahh the Perils of Paul..
Do you think that Ron Paul should be executed?
“What other Conservative or GOP candidate would think consideration of splitting the ticket with Kucinich is PREMATURE and not out of the question?
Show a little self respect and find another candidate!”
Show some self respect drpix, and DON’T vote for a socialist, which is what the leaders in the GOP field are, God Damned socialists. OR, stop lying to people about being a conservative and admit that you’re a socialist lib from the get go because you root for a “front runner”.
“What gave [bin laden] power was his ability to destroy the tallest buildings in America’s largest city.”
Actually, that was a disasterous breach of our national security. Norad missed it entirely.
“What Ron Paul actually did do was attempt to appease bin Laden by saying that bin Laden’s actions were justified by US foreign policy.”
Ron Paul sponsored a bill to let Blackwater go after him for a bounty. That would have been all bin laden deserved — to be chased like the criminal he is.
Ron Paul never ‘justified’ bin laden’s actions. That is a neocon one trick pony and its getting old. The 9/11 commission stated our interventionist policies caused them to strike us. Terrorism is a tactic. It is used by the weak. Sending in our entire military and dropping bunker busters and shock and awe (a form of terrorism, in my opinion) gave bin laden exactly what he wanted. More angry muslims to join him. And it gave the US govt the power to pass Homeland Security to spend Billions more on a new agency because our existing agencies failed to prevent 9/11.
Its a common government ploy — when they mess up, they claim they need more money. We knew that wasn’t true in the past. We knew the ATF was only getting the Davidian videos to justify their swat teams. We knew this stuff.
‘Why doesn’t the Rudy’s and the Mitt’s camps stuff more of these after-debate-sites with their votes.’
Because they are meaningless in the real world.
Ron Paul is running for President of Second Life....(chuckle)
Send your linden dollars today!
Blackwater does security operations, not Special Operations. Special Forces did go after Bin Ladin. Do you remember Tora Bora? That's where Paul's Democrat comrades says Bush let Bin Laden get away because he sent only special forces and not regular ground force?
Do you believe what thousands of Special Forces - with the latest equipment and the best training in the world - did not accomplish could have been accomplished by Blackwater? Get real! Letter of Marque = cover for surrender.
Where was Norad on 9/11? Where was the CIA on the 9/11 terrorists overstaying their visas? Where was the FBI? Sorry. Our defenses that we spent trillions building failed on 9/11. Government doesn’t work very well. We, freepers, used to know that.
If Ron Paul is elected to the White House, he will be appointed King by our Congress and Senate. The Supreme Court will uphold this appointment. That’s when the exciting stuff will start. Are you ready for it?
“Do you remember Tora Bora?” December 2001, lets see.. september, october, november, december. Could it be that bin laden had time to find other holes to crawl into?
Do you think that Ron Paul should be executed?No, the Supreme Court has ruled it unconstitutional to execute the the insane and mentally deficient.
“Do you believe what thousands of Special Forces - with the latest equipment and the best training in the world - did not accomplish could have been accomplished by Blackwater?”
And the special forces didn’t show up in Afghanistan until December -— because?
$4.3 million in 24 hours, from 26,000 new donors, is indeed significant support for Dr. Paul.
Then qquit throwing around the "traitor" crap. It makes you look like a moron.
The FBI & CIA of the 50s & 60s worked well enough to destroy domestic enemies like the SDS, FALN & Black Panther, and to topple all the hostile foreign governments that Leftist cry about... again until enemy appeasers like Ron Paul handcuffed them.
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