Posted on 11/23/2007 7:02:20 PM PST by Josh Painter
Duncan Hunter is a good man, a true patriot and a very conservative Republican, although not a small-government, new federalist one. He's still a much better choice than Rudy McRombee, hands down.
I'm a Fred Thompson supporter, but I nevertheless like and admire Hunter. Oh sure, I have a few nits to pick with the man. His less than sterling attendance record in the U.S. House is one. His voting record on fiscal issues is another. Finally, his opposition to free trade is a non-starter for me, although those with a more populist bent will see it as a big plus. However, Duncan Hunter may have more expertise on military matters than anyone else in Washington, D.C. That's why I believe he would be an outstanding SECDEF in a Fred Thompson administration.
I'm not exactly sure why, despite being in the race for the GOP presidential nomination for nearly a year, Hunter has failed to gain traction as a candidate. Perhaps his campaign has not served him well. Perhaps the media hasn't given him enough "face time." Or perhaps some of his more zealous backers are having the opposite effect on his campaign than the one they desire.
That's why this one goes out to those Duncan Hunter supporters who have felt the need to bash Fred Thompson on the political discussion forums, especially on FRee Republic and more especially on the Fred Thompson threads there:
Blame Fred ThompsonMy apologies to the writers of South Park.
(to the tune of Blame Canada)
Times have changed
FReepers are getting worse
They wont obey their betters
They want to put Thompson first!
Should we blame Club for Growth?
Or blame NTU?
Or should we blame Tanc and the Huckster too?
No, blame Fred Thompson
Blame Fred Thompson
With all their beady little eyes
Those Fredheads are so full of lies
Blame Fred Thompson
Blame Fred Thompson
We need to form a full assault
Its all Fred Thompsons fault!
Dont blame me
For Duncans not made a dent
Hes been running nearly a year
And hes only got four percent!
And our guy Hunter
Should be on everyones minds
But hes lagging so far behind!
Well, blame Fred Thompson
Blame Fred Thompson
It seems that everythings gone wrong
Since Fred Thompson came along
Blame Fred Thompson
Blame Fred Thompson
Hes not even a real conservative anyway
Duncan couldve been a contender ahead in the race
Instead nobody even recognizes his face
Should we blame the candidate?
Should we blame his campaign?
Or the donors who shunned him in vain?
Heck no!
Blame Fred Thompson
Blame Fred Thompson
With his federalist hullabaloo
And that bi*ch Matalin too
Blame Fred Thompson
Shame on Fred Thompson
For...
His race we must stop
His dash we must bash
His campaign and run
Must all be undone
We must blame him and cause a FReeper fuss
Before somebody thinks of blaming
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus!!!!
SABAZZ!
Really? When was that? EXPRESSING THE SENSE OF CONGRESS THAT BASIC PAY FOR MEMBERS OF ARMED FORCES SHOULD BE INCREASED -- (House of Representatives - November 06, 2007)
BTW, Duncan Hunter was not one of the 23, but was one of the 409.
hes missed almost 30% of the votes and many of them National Security related.
Please provide source and links for this claim. Thanks!
I couldn't agree more. All the threads pitting Hunter supporters against Thompson supporters and vice versa are counter productive and personally I wouldn't mind the moderators getting a bit more aggressive in their thankless work.
See post #21 on how Hunter voted against raising the troops’ pay. *rolls eyes*
Fred’s fault ... ;o)
I am sure he has made some mistakes in 27 years. I wonder how many he made in his first 8 years?
I would vote against censorship.
I know lots of people lump Thompson and Hunter together, but I don’t. To me, Thompson is no better than Romney or Guilianni. They are all running to the right during the campaign and they will all govern from the center once elected. That’s why I coined the term, CDEO instead of RINO. they are all republicans but are only Conservative During Elections Only.
*quirks an eyebrow* You're joking, right?
Since Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-CA) is apparently going to explore the possibility of running for president in 2008, I thought I'd dig up some of his roll call votes. Like most Republicans, he's strong on tax cuts, but he's been part of the big government spending spree of the last 6 years. He also has a protectionist streak in him. Here are some of the more troubling votes:http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2006/10/duncan_hunters_voting_record.phpNO on NAFTA YES on No Child Left Behind YES on Sarbanes-Oxley YES on the 2003 Medicare Drug Benefit NO on CAFTA YES on 2005 Highway Bill YES on the 527 bill (like most Republicans, he flip-flopped, having first voted NO on McCain-Feingold)
Hunter also went 0 for 19 on the Flake anti-pork amendments.
Despite being a member of the Republican Study Committee, Hunter frequently votes NO on their fiscally conservative annual budgets (2006, 2005, 2003...)
We gave him a 49% on the 2005 Club for Growth scorecard. That places him 187th within the House GOP conference, out of roughly 230 members.
National Taxpayers Union shows a more telling trend. He was strong in the early 1990s, getting "B's" and one "A", but as time went by, like most politicians, his score dropped. For the past few years, he's been getting "C's".
Actually, I had a discussion on what is bashing.
It started here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926883/posts?page=121#121
and was left hanging here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926883/posts?page=129#129
Perhaps you would like to review those posts and respond?
Actually, no. I believe thompson would make a horrible president. Like I said, I disagree with alot of Hunter supporters in this regard.
I’m with you UPS. I wouldn’t even vote for Hunter if Thompson shared a ticket.
>>>See post #21 on how Hunter voted against raising the troops pay. *rolls eyes*
*rolls eyes* is right. That is propaganda. There was a rider on that bill. I don’t remember if it was for troop withdrawal or amnesty; but something was added.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/memoranda/fy2005/m05-21.pdf
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/memoranda/fy2007/m07-02.pdf
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/legislative/sap/109-2/hr5122sap-h.pdf
Note the last one was co-authored by Duncan Hunter.
Despite some accusations of ties to men convicted or charged in the scandal of his friend and former U.S. Rep. Randy Cunningham, that relationship has not dogged Hunter on the campaign trail. Beyond a defense attorneys failed effort to subpoena him and other lawmakers, Hunters name has not surfaced in any of the investigations linked to the now-imprisoned Cunningham.
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/10/28/news/sandiego/30_19_4610_27_07.txt
First, the way CFG handled Hunter (is apparently going to explore the possibility of running for president in 2008) was just plain nasty.
Second, they have Paul up there for all the world to see, but no Hunter.
Third, of the 3 years that CFG uses to prove Hunter is not fiscally conservative, one of them, 2003, was the Toomey of Pennsylvania substitute amendment. The thing only received 80 out of 422 votes. There had to have been a major problem with that amendment for that kind of vote, IMHO.
Do you know why his scores went down with the NTU and Club for growth?
Massive defense cuts. Hunter opposed.
Handing our sovereignty over to WTO, NAFTA, etc. Hunter opposed. Signing suicide pact with China - Hunter opposed.
earmarking millions for defense projects, border fences and detention facilities.
Thems the facts.
He might not be a bad president, but he has a weak record.
Duncan Hunter has missed 322 votes (28.8%) during the current Congress.
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/h000981/
He’s running for President. How much has Tanc and McCain missed?
Ron Paul has missed 280 votes (25.1%) during the current Congress.
Tom Tancredo has missed 311 votes (27.9%) during the current Congress.
I think it’s thievery by all of them.
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