Posted on 09/22/2007 8:03:54 AM PDT by beltfed308
ST. GEORGE — A police officer who was recorded berating a motorist earlier this month has lost his job.
The board of aldermen voted 5-0, with one member absent, to fire Sgt. James Kuehnlein on Monday. The vote was cast in a session closed to the public and wasn't announced until Wednesday, when a notice was posted at the City Hall of this tiny south St. Louis County community.
In a video that got wide viewership on the Internet, Kuehnlein taunts and threatens motorist Brett Darrow, 20, sometimes shouting and using profanity, after questioning him in a commuter lot near Interstate 55. Darrow posted the footage of the Sept. 7 incident on the web.
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I only needed to see one of your posts to see “cop hater”.
I have zero interest in anything else you have to say.
well then you are contradicting yourself. your original post to me indicated your interest in how many times i had used that phrase (you bet i used it a lot). now, you only care about my one and only usage. way to be consistent.
I caught a couple of other articles on this, and the kid says he was supposed to meet a friend there to give him back an iPod that was left in his car. I agree the kid didn't have the best attitude toward the cop.
If his account of having been assaulted by a drunken off-duty police officer and then watching the system cover it up is accurate, and right now I don't see any evidence to contract it, I can understand how someone (especially a young person) would be left with a feeling of mistrust.
I understand that there's some bad apples out there, and they make it hard on the good ones. Sometimes that manifests itself in the form of having to deal with the people they've pissed off. I don't think the proper resonse in that situation is to try and break them of it by adding to it.
IMHO
Brilliant argument. Now you can go shove some kid around.
my point with this kid is that he makes a game out of it and uses a police scanner to go to places he knows he will get stopped so he can wise-off to cops. but, in his mind, the cops made him what he is. we have agitator's too. i just smile and nod and go about doing my job. i'm hoping to see myself on youtube one day.
hahaha.
thompson for president!
I saw the video. All he had of the officer was audio. He said he mounted the camera after he got a speeding ticket he thought he didn’t deserve, and the camera was mounted pointed at the instrument cluster on his dash, not at the window.
“my point with this kid is that he makes a game out of it and uses a police scanner to go to places he knows he will get stopped so he can wise-off to cops. but, in his mind, the cops made him what he is. we have agitator’s too. i just smile and nod and go about doing my job. i’m hoping to see myself on youtube one day.”
Well, if that is in fact what he’s doing, it worked in this case. I view him the same as any other advocate, like those online stings to catch child predators.
Smiling and nodding and doing a professional job is what you should do.
Where did you read that he uses a scanner to troll cops? All that has been said is that this is not the first bozo with a badge that he has caught on tape.
Yeah, where there is evidence, cameras, witnesses, paper trails etc...However, in many incidents, it's only the LEOs word against the suspects, and all rides on who appears more credible in court. It's easy to "embellish" events or incidents, for both the suspects, and LEOs.
it’s on his website and you can clearly hear the scanner in the audio at the beginning of the tape as he pulls into the lot. he knew the crime problems at that lot and he knew a cop was there. sure did go out of his way to make that cute little video, didn’t he?
Okay, you've got some agitators. Now tell me some of the assholes they've had to deal with don't have anything to do with them being that way.
I don’t blame him for recording his interactions with the cops, especially now that he has been marked.
I record my interactions with them too. Its just common sense given the behavior of a few rotten apples that besmirch the reputation of the rest of the LEOs who stay within the law and respect those that assert their rights.
as soon as he gets into the police van and gets out of sight of the protesters, he says he's getting to old for this kind of stuff and he's ready for the next generation of hired guns to take over. he said he just wanted to spend time with his kids. but then he said he was hired to go to newfoundland to protest something or other.
he's all over youtube. but usually the agitator's are white liberals who have never been arrested who simply get off on telling cops how to do their job. but as soon as they are confronted by a 300 pound ex-con who demands their money, they are all too quick to call 911. god forbid they get a gun and defend themselves. oh wait, rudy took away all the legal guns in NYC.
Actually, he isn't marked as you say.
People that have gone after cops, or those that had incidents with LE and won, are usually treated like the plague, and avoided by those in law enforcement. Remember Rodney King? After that fiasco LE went out of their way to avoid that guy. Same with OJ until recently, when he did something so stupid, which was recorded, with witnesses etc, he left himself wide open.
Every town has people in it, that are just looking to go after those in law enforcement, and most of these people are well known, and for the most part, avoided if at all possibly by those in law enforcement.
Any cop that would intentionally go after video boy in this article, is looking at some serious trouble.
The man was berated, insulted, and threatened by the Police Officer.
Later, the driver, brought to the Abington Chief of Police a recording he had made of the incident.
The driver with the tape proving the harassment was arrested and brought to trial for illegally taping a Police Officer w/out consent.
The cops won, and you would have to be better than me to find this case on the Internet. I looked before I posted here, and I could not find it.
I was appalled at the time at the final disposition of the case. I have never lived in Abington, Massachusetts and I do everything that I can to avoid that cheesy Town.
The point is, having to deal with the assholes can give you a bad attitude about all of them, and it goes both ways. I’ll be the first to admit that it isn’t fair, but that’s the way it is.
Best retort of the day, maybe of the week.
That alone should be grounds for dismissal.
I hope we do not hear of the young driver being victim of a random act of violence .Some people blame others for their own acts,especially if it results in loss of employment.
You bet. That was the end of story. He was clearly trying to throw his weight around, taking all kinds of crap, thinking this was just some goofy young dummy. To bad for him the goofy young dummy was wired for audio/video
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