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The records of two Republican candidates are compared and contrasted in the latest essay by Mr. Madison--
1 posted on 09/05/2007 12:45:34 PM PDT by Calpernia
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To: Calpernia

But Duncan Hunter is unelectable. He has all the charisma of Potato Buds.


2 posted on 09/05/2007 12:46:53 PM PDT by Petronski (Cleveland Indians: Pennant -18)
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>>>S.1952, the Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention Act of 1996.

The Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prev. Act has similar results as Same-Sex Marriage. Fred Thompson is FOR giving the rights on Same - Sex Marriage to the STATES. THAT would mean the marriage wouldn’t be federally recognized. This would change the legal definitions of parental rights to ‘family rights’. Parents become stakeholders of their own children with the schools and states becoming primary guardians.

In Canada, the controversial law that brought about same-sex marriage quietly included the provision to erase the term “natural parent” across the board in federal law, replacing it with the term “legal parent.”

With that law, the power in defining who a child’s parents are shifts precipitously from civil society to the state.

In Spain, after the recent legalization of same-sex marriage the legislature changed the birth certificates for all children in that nation to read “Progenitor A” and
“Progenitor B” instead of “mother” and “father.” With that change, the words “mother” and “father” were struck from the first document issued to every newborn by the state.

Similar proposals have been made in other jurisdictions that have legalized same-sex marriage.

In New Zealand and Australia, influential law commissions have proposed allowing children conceived with use of sperm or egg donors to have three legal parents.

In the United States, courts often must determine who the legal parents are among the many adults who might be involved in planning, conceiving, birthing, and raising a child. Judges in several states have seized upon the idea of “psychological” parenthood to award legal parent status to adults who are not related to children by blood, adoption, or marriage. They have done so even over the objection of the child’s biological parent. Advances in the same-sex marriage debate have encouraged group marriage advocates who wish to break open the two-person understanding of marriage and parenthood.

The National Health Education Standards has gone further and envoked in loco parentis by redefining parents as families. Families have been classified as stakeholders. Children’s stakeholders are being identified as any entity that is seen as a resource in a child’s community.

http://www.nationalguidelines.org/guideline.cfm?guideNum=0-12

>>Schools often have insufficient resources to provide a comprehensive and multifaceted continuum of interventions. By having direct contact with families and key informants in the community, schools are better able to identify barriers to student success and well-being and better equipped to develop solutions that overcome these barriers. Schools can enhance home-school links by sharing concerns with families and developing solutions that address students’ unique needs.

In addition to the benefits for students’ education and well-being, students’ families, and school staff, there are reciprocal benefits for community agencies who partner with schools. Businesses, the justice system, community health and safety systems, and others may benefit from a healthier population. Community agencies and organizations that provide services to children and families often gain a more visible profile when they become partners with schools.

Examples of neighborhood stakeholders in student health and well-being are students themselves, as well as their families and teachers. Other school staff, community business owners, police, faith-based institutions, universities and colleges, local health departments, health and mental health service providers, dentists, emergency medical services, educators of first-aid, departments of health, justice, education and social services, and other agencies that serve families have stakes in the well-being of the student population and school staff. Communicate regularly with partners and potential partners in order to learn what each has to offer.<<


3 posted on 09/05/2007 12:51:16 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

Substance over style, consistency, confidence and competency.


4 posted on 09/05/2007 12:52:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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Comparisons are fine.

Here's a good comparison.

While Duncan Hunter is a good cosnervative, he's proven himself to be a poor presidential candidate. Hunter`s 1%-3% of national support doesn't bode well for the future of his campaign.

Fred Thompson is also a good cosnervative and thus far, he's been doing very good. Fred is at 23% in the latest Rasmussen daily poll. Just a point back of Rooty. We conservatives asked Fred to run, because most of us didn't like the three alternative first tier choices. Now we'll see if Fred can sell himself to conservatives as the real deal. I like his chances.

14 posted on 09/05/2007 1:02:30 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Politicalmom

Fred Thompson ping.


34 posted on 09/05/2007 1:40:48 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: Calpernia
while Hunter is a big government nanny-stater.

Please tell me no one actually believes this.

35 posted on 09/05/2007 1:42:36 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Catholic4Mitt)
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To: Calpernia; Issaquahking; Carry_Okie; calcowgirl; SierraWasp; Jeff Head; blackie; marsh2; ...
, but he[FRED] also bucked the GOP on slashing the funds for the Endangered Species Act (H.AMDT 3479) a

NOT good. The ESA has benefitted no one monitarily except lawyers (who run the envirofreak orgs). Has Fred ever hinted at his opionion of the Kelo decision?

55 posted on 09/05/2007 2:32:06 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks, Cal. This Madison fellow does a nice job. I’m sure it’s going to annoy some.


56 posted on 09/05/2007 2:33:05 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Calpernia

Interesting comparison. Thank you for posting this.


60 posted on 09/05/2007 2:42:31 PM PDT by brothers4thID (FDT: "Every notice that while our problems are getting bigger, our politicians are getting smaller?")
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You know, we could analyze the record presented in the thread and determine whether Hunter or Thompson is better in this instance.

Or we could just keep sniping at each other with pointless barbs and insults.


70 posted on 09/05/2007 3:11:54 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: Calpernia

Madison does a great job of cutting through the spin and getting at the truth. You know I thought all this time, we, the people got to choose our nominee for POTUS. It seems it’s no longer “we, the people” but “they, the polls”.

I have seen taunts about polls yet no refutation or rebuttal of the facts Mr. Madison so eloquently presented. Instead, it’s the same old browbeating Hunter with poll numbers and conjecture about electability that the Rudy supporters utilized so readily.

When did conservatives become so enamored with polls? Why are we so willing to compromise our principles for poll numbers and empty promises? When did we become so easily seduced by spin and double-speak? When did we become spin doctors for trial lawyers and lobbyists? Do we understand that when we condemn Edwards yet spin for another we come off as hypocrites?

When did we abandon Ronald Reagan for Howard Baker? Why are we so willing to, once again, trust what someone says while discounting what another has done? Perhaps I will get some answers tonight during the debates, but I don’t watch O’really or Leno, so many questions, will go unanswered.


88 posted on 09/05/2007 4:03:58 PM PDT by WildcatClan (Duncan Hunter '08 -)
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I hate when these threads turn into pissing contests.


108 posted on 09/05/2007 5:08:49 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Calpernia

Thank you for the work you did on this thread.


136 posted on 09/05/2007 11:06:36 PM PDT by Brandie (Duncan Hunter in 08')
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To: Calpernia
Hmmm... why does no one compare the two in their final shared years, I wonder? For example, in 2002, Thompson actually had a higher ACU rating (89) than Hunter (88).
152 posted on 09/06/2007 7:09:58 AM PDT by kevkrom (The religion of global warming: "There is no goddess but Gaia and Al Gore is her profit.")
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