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This is the latest from Nat Helms on Nazario and NCIS' Fallujah 04 investigation.

Hope NCIS Special Agent Mark Fox feels like a real man for humiliating a hero of Fallujah for a pointless perp walk. (I also hope Special Agent Fox uses Google.) Your tax dollars at work.

1 posted on 08/29/2007 4:07:40 AM PDT by RedRover
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Ping!

2 posted on 08/29/2007 4:33:37 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover
War is Hell
Friends die
The enemy does not play fair
You will be tired, spent and angry

None of that gives any combatant the right to kill a prisoner.

Regardless of the above, and regardless of some radio communication from some unknown person, Americans do not kill prisoners. To vilify some NCIS agent because he may found an instance where Marines kill prisoners is more than foolish. To criticize him because he asks direct questions about a possible murder astounds logic. What did you expect him to ask; how was the soup at supper?

If you do not understand that we should not kill prisoners, you do not understand why are in Iraq.

3 posted on 08/29/2007 4:45:56 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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Weemer says “something” happened but he doesn’t know what.

Nazario says nothing happened at all.

We now hear of 8 men captured but only 4 killed??? What exactly would be the sense in that? It makes the story unbelievable. When taken into account with no evidence, no bodies, and no crime scene, Nazario saying that nothing happened at all begins to look like a reasonable position.

Is it possible for one man to think something has happened in the middle of a battle, to think others see it the same as him, and for another to have an entirely different memory? The answer: Absolutely yes.

It is no different than in a house with husband, wife, and kids when one parent thinks they hear a squabble and another parent thinks they hear horseplay. It’s no different than in a carwreck where bystanders on 4 different corners give 4 different accounts.

It’s no different than any misunderstanding being embellished by retelling, embellishing, further retelling, and further embellishing. After months of that “story creation process,” what really happened?

What did Weemer actually see: according to him, he didn’t actually witness anything.

A crime scene would help sort it out. So would witnesses. So would evidence.

8 prisoners and only 4 killed? Why.....it makes no sense. Did it even happen?


4 posted on 08/29/2007 5:11:13 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: RedRover
It is impossible, absolutely and unequivocally impossible, to fight a politically correct war. Our men and women will continue to die in increasing numbers as they are shackled by the Democrats idea of what defines an enemy. When someone is shooting at you, you cannot sit there and take a few minutes to decide whether to shoot back. It is them, or it is you. I am disgusted at what is happening to our military men and women.

I have spent years being a faithful and dutiful military spouse. My children and I have made countless sacrifices for this cause, and did so before 9/11. My husband is defined by the USMC. He is a Marine before all else. It terrifies me that he could end up being labeled as a murderer for doing the things that the Marine Corps taught him to do in the first place.

I support this mission, and I support this President, but I will be damned if I will continue doing so if they are simply sending him over there so that he can choose between death or jail. Either fight the damn war or don’t. It is NOT POSSIBLE to stay somewhere in the middle.

8 posted on 08/29/2007 8:00:43 AM PDT by USMCWife6869 (Godspeed Sand Sharks.)
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To: RedRover

Yet another informative article by Nat Helms, again he does his homework and writes expertly.

It is one thing for an agent to investigate an incident but it is quite another to compulsively pursue a hero with no more evidence than he seemed to have had.

To set up an arrest and a perp walk as he did with officer Navario in front of his fellow officers is pathetic and unforgivable, it sounds like he did it to satisfy an inflated ego.

It is past time that the NCIS be overhauled and that will have to be done by starting at the top and working down. Many agents in these cases involving the Marines have treated them worse than hardened civilian criminals or illegal combatants have been treated. If SECNAV Winter doesn’t start an investigation of the NCIS, his head should be the first to roll.


10 posted on 08/29/2007 9:00:40 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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I’m going to quit parsing words. NCIS would rather they’d have let them go and our Marines had been killed. NCIS would rather the enemy lives. Traitorous, seditious vermin.


22 posted on 08/29/2007 5:07:30 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Aunt, Cousin, Mother, and FRiend)
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