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Why ALL Conservatives need to support Duncan Hunter - Including you, Mr. Limbaugh
News Which Cannot Lose ^ | August 6, 2007 | Alexander J. Madison

Posted on 08/07/2007 7:36:00 AM PDT by Calpernia

If Congressman and Presidential candidate Duncan Hunter had a dollar for every conservative who said "Gee, Hunter is really great, but he doesn't have traction", or, "Yeah, he may be the most conservative, but he can't win",
the Hunter Campaign would be leading the 2008 money race. Alas, his campaign receives no money from folks who "really like" him, but think he can't win. Just
a "that's too bad" or a "I wish he'd catch fire" or some equally tepid gesture.

Well, let me tell you, fellow conservatives, why this cannot and will not continue, and why the tide is starting to turn in Hunter's favor. The "that's too bad"s are changing to "what can I do to help?"s, as more and more
folks are looking very hard at the world we face today and are beginning to evaluate who needs to lead the charge.

This 2008 election is an argument for America's soul. And the Republican primary is a referendum on the GOP's future as a conservative party, not just a beauty pageant for politicians and their clever (consultant driven) ploys to sound like conservatives.

So my argument below addresses 3 key topics that definitively illustrate why all conservatives must climb aboard the Hunter bandwagon. The first two are
about Mr. Hunter himself – his history and philosophy. The third topic is the much needed and long overdue comparison – how he stacks up against the other
republican hopefuls. In addition, I will demonstrate that Hunter really does "have a chance" and how his ascension is the best thing to happen to the GOP
since Ronald Wilson Reagan left the democrats and joined the party of Lincoln.

And lastly, I will address the role of Mr. Limbaugh and his fellow talkers in this election cycle.

HISTORY

Duncan Hunter is a warrior. Period. He dropped out of college in 1969 to join the fight in Vietnam. By 1969, the hippies and anti-war sentiment in this country were ascendant and the war was falling out of favor even in many republican circles, due in large part to grossly inaccurate reporting (sound familiar?) by the press. But Hunter did not join to avoid the draft or to find a
unit that would see limited action. And despite having a father of some political stature, he did not try to use connections for some Gore-like reporter's assignment.

Perhaps because both his father and grandfather were
proud warriors before him, Hunter joined the Army Rangers, a group that was certain to see heavy combat. As an Airborne Ranger, he was involved in numerous
combat operations, and was decorated for such. Yet he rarely talks about it, other than to say he didn't do "anything special". But special he was, both for
his willingness to join the fight, and for the view that he holds to this very day: That the Vietnam War was a noble and just cause; and the cowards that pulled out the rug are execrable.

After two tours in Vietnam, Hunter returned to civilian life and went back to school, eventually earning a law degree and a job in San Diego, catering mostly to the Hispanic community there. He married, settled down and had two boys, the first in 1977. But it was his concern about the direction this country was heading in the post-Vietnam, Jimmy Carter era that gnawed at him, as it did for many patriotic Americans witnessing a very low point in our nation's history.

Hunter and his father were both early Reagan supporters, even in 1976. And it was his father that urged the younger Hunter to run for congress in 1980, with the expectation that Reagan would win and sweep republicans in with him. So Duncan jumped in with both feet, and beat a popular, experienced democrat in a democrat leaning district, by combining a message of hope and American virtue with an attack on the Carter Administration's limp-wristed foreign and domestic policies.

He entered Washington on Reagan's coattails and has been proudly clearing the path for Reaganism ever since. He immediately sought assignment onto the Armed Services Committee. During the malaise of the mid to late 1970s, the military was in dire need of some very tough love, and Hunter was willing to give it. In addition to helping Reagan ramrod through massive increases in defense spending, Hunter also took extra care to ensure that Veterans' medical and education benefits were upgraded and that proper order and discipline was restored. After
a number of bloody, brass-knuckle fights in the House and Senate, funding for SDI (missile defense) was approved in the mid 1980s. The media dubbed it Star Wars, and mocked the president relentlessly. Numerous high dollar professors from prestigious institutions and scientific organizations proclaimed, just like Schleprock, that "it will never work". Hunter knew better. Of course, the democrats aligned with the leftist academics, just as they do so today.

Nevertheless, funding began. But our allies in Europe were highly skeptical. So Reagan chose the young warrior, Duncan Hunter, to lead a delegation to European capitols and convince our vital allies of the wisdom behind these programs.

Hunter, with the able assistance from his friend and mentor Henry Hyde, largely succeeded.

In addition to being one of Reagan's most trusted point men for rebuilding the military, Hunter also had a strong, independent streak. And nowhere was that independent streak more manifest than in the battle over our southern border and the continued flood of illegal aliens into the US. Hunter urged President Reagan to increase the size of the Border Patrol (BP), which the President did.

However, Reagan's "solution" to the problem included a 1986 Amnesty bill for millions of illegal immigrants. Hunter vociferously dissented and predicted that such an amnesty, without a secure border, would lead to a stampede of illegals dwarfing what had come before.

Despite Hunter's efforts, the GOP (and the democrats) went along with the Amnesty plan. With 20/20 hindsight, we now all see that this amnesty plan did open the floodgates, and many more millions have entered since. But it was Hunter and his few allies in Congress that had the FORESIGHT to see exactly what would happen. Later, even Ronald Reagan regretted the amnesty.

During the Bush 41 era, through the Clinton years and to the present day, Hunter has been the loudest and strongest voice standing up against the federal government's apathy regarding the southern border. It took a Herculean effort
for Hunter to secure funding for a new double border fence in his own district, the worst smuggling corridor in the country. The Clinton administration dragged its feet, the EPA tried to scuttle it, and the local left wing activists,
Hispanic "rights" groups and environmentalists fought it every step of the way.

But eventually Hunter prevailed, and the San Diego Border fence was built, dropping human and drug smuggling from Mexico in that sector by over 90%.
Additionally, Hunter constantly fought (and sometimes won) battles for more detention facilities, BP agents, military assistance at the border, and for stripping away benefits to illegal aliens. Currently, Hunter has pending
legislation to kill NAFTA's provision allowing Mexican truckers free access to American roads, a bill urging President Bush to grant pardons for two BP agents
accused of shooting a fleeing drug runner in the rump, and a bill to grant congressional oversight of the executive branch's efforts to establish a Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) with Mexico and Canada. And of course, Hunter, with no cosponsors, forced the border fence bill through congress in October 2006 and obtained President Bush's signature on the most important piece
of border security legislation in the last 50 years.

Hunter has also been the staunchest leader in the fight against abortion. At least nine times Hunter has proposed the Right to Life Act, which would give the unborn 14th amendment protections under the US Constitution and finally treat them as what they are, human beings. Most recently proposed in January 2007, Hunter's statement accompanying the bill included the following:

"On this anniversary of the Roe v Wade decision, it is important that we reflect on the 38 million abortions that have been performed in this country since the practice was legalized in 1973. This is a national tragedy that must not go unnoticed. This legislation ensures that the unborn are protected from abortion and further provided the same Constitutional protections provided to all Americans. I am proud to once again introduce this important piece of
legislation and I hope my colleagues will join me in support of this effort as they have in the previous Congress
."

Hunter was also instrumental in spearheading the legislation banning Partial Birth Abortion (PBA) and in preventing federal dollars from flowing to any organization that was complicit in abortion services.

Duncan Hunter has been a warrior for conservatism and against liberalism his entire career. He has staked out an originalist position on Second Amendment rights and almost defeated, single-handedly, Clinton's phony Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) in 1994. He was first in line to defend the military's prohibition on homosexuals, and he recently wrote a piece in the USA Today, defending General Peter Pace's remarks about the incompatibility of gays and military life. He has disdain for liberalism, and is one of the few politicians who still uses "liberal" as a stinging, pejorative term.

Hunter, along with Jim Sensenbrenner, kept the military spooks from being folded under the NSA umbrella, despite all the congressional hysteria and Bush
Administration pressure to follow the 9-11 Committee's recommendations. Hunter simply knew better. Hunter blocked Don Rumsfeld, his good friend, from downsizing the Army, and was responsible for George Bush's about face to increase the size of both the Army and Marine Corps. For 26 years, Hunter has worked diligently to slash the size and scope of the federal government while pushing for increases in the numbers of ships, sailors, soldiers, bombers (including the B2), nuclear submarines, transport aircraft, missiles, missile defenses, as well as basic armaments. Hunter was urging the Congress to
re-establish proper Human Intel to combat terrorism, long before 9-11.

Hunter was the leader who fought the Cosco (Chinese) takeover at the Long Beach, California port, and he was largely responsible for torpedoing the Dubai Ports lease deal in 2006. Critically, Duncan Hunter has been sounding the alarm bell against China's malfeasance for decades, fighting hard to derail "normal" trade relations with the communist country. Hunter was the man who pushed through a ban on satellite and satellite technology exports after discovering that the Clinton/Loral team was providing the chicoms with expertise they could never develop on their own. An excerpt from a 1996 article penned by Congressman
Hunter explains:

"Advocates of continued Most-Favored-Nation trade status for China claim that this is a ``normal'' part of U.S. international relations and that China hasn't done anything odd enough to be an exception.

China's friends seem to have adopted a rather jaded view of normality.

Are thinly veiled threats to attack Los Angeles, like those made by China during the recent Taiwan crisis, ``normal'' diplomatic discourse?

Was Beijing's attempt to influence elections on Taiwan by military demonstrations and missile firings ``normal?''

Was the movement of two U.S. carrier battlegroups to positions of potential confrontation with China a ``normal'' gesture of friendly relations?

Or, do these actions indicate a strategic relationship with China more on a par with Cuba or North Korea, countries with which we do not extend MFN?

We didn't grant MFN to the Soviet Union either, when it was aiming missiles at U.S. cities.

As China ascends, America declines"

And despite many significant differences with President Bush and his administration (notably Gonzales, Chertoff, and Condi Rice), no one has watched the President's back in the current war against the terrorists like Duncan
Hunter. No one. As Hunter stated during the recent "cut and run" debate on the house floor:

"Mr. Speaker, there is no Democrat leader here or anywhere who can stop the war. The only thing we can do is leave this battlefield. We can't stop this
war any more than the people of Great Britain stopped the war when they just had this incident last week in Scotland. We can't stop this war any more than the
victims in the Kobar Towers stopped the war. We can't stop this war any more than the marines in the Beirut barrack had the power to stop the war. We can't
stop this war any more than the sailors of the USS Cole had any ability to stop the war. THIS WAR HAS BEEN FORCED UPON US. THE ONLY WAY WE SHOULD END IT, THE ONLY WAY WE CAN END IT, IS TO WIN. "

In his twenty six years in the House, all on the Armed Services Committee (4 years as chairmen) Hunter has become an expert. In fact, he is THE recognized
expert; often knowing more about tactics, capabilities, weapon systems, troop levels and ammunition supplies than even the Generals and Admirals and the Pentagon. Duncan Hunter is a warrior.

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PHILOSOSPHY

Duncan Hunter is a Reaganite; a Reaganite with streaks of Teddy Roosevelt and General George S. Patton. He is not from the Bob Dole School of Grand Compromisers, the John McCain Institute of Annoying Mavericks, the Newt Gingrich branch of Chronic Complainers, or the George W. Bush "Compassionate Conservative" army. He usually speaks at a moderate, steady volume, but handles
the stick like the Bambino handled his 47 ounce baseball bat. However, when national security or sovereignty is at stake, his volume increases, and he is not shy about 'grabbing' his opponents by the throat and shaking them
relentlessly. 

Hunter's motto is Peace through Strength, and he means it. He is as pro-American as they come and refuses to apologize for America to a world eager to hear about our supposed "sins".

His compass is trust in the wisdom of the American people, and his  mission is to humbly pay homage to our heritage while continuing to foster American exceptionalism. Not an American exceptionalism that is our birthright, but one that has been earned by each passing generation; earned by the toil and sacrifice and blood and wisdom of our fathers and their fathers.

Hunter's anchor is our military. His love for the fighting men and women of our republic is as deep as it is eternal, extending from the men who fought in virgin woodlands under a young Col. George Washington in 1755 up
through the patriot volunteers from San Diego to Bar Harbor, hunting down Taliban in the mountains of a desolate Afghanistan tonight.

Duncan Hunter is a constitutionalist. Like all politicians, Hunter has had to compromise at times in the Congress to get his priorities passed, and he has had a handful of regrettable votes. But his core belief that the constitution means what it says -and nothing more- has not changed. He wants to return many functions of government back to the states and to the people, ranging from education to housing to arts funding to welfare. Other bureaucracies, he believes, can be reduced, merged, and de-funded with the goal of significantly reducing the overall footprint of the federal leviathan. The Constitution Party's (CP) evaluation of Hunter was very positive, with a glaring
exception for his unflinching support of the Iraq war; an exception on which Mr. Hunter is surely gratified to diverge from the CP.

When the presidential candidates were asked recently by an Iowa newspaper what they would like their legacy to be, Hunter gave the shortest response:

"I'd like to see a country where the day I walk out of the White House, after a couple of terms, the American people are more independent of government than
the day that I walked in."

Duncan Hunter has also been a champion of property rights, consistently battling the Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) overreach and cosponsoring legislation after the Kelo decision to address such unconstitutional takings on the federal level. He added, "I am deeply concerned with the Supreme Court's 5-4 decision greatly broadening local government's use of eminent domain in Kelo vs. New London and believe it is important that Congress protect the property rights of private landowners and curb the government from excessive regulatory takings. It is for this reason that I voted in favor of expressing the grave disapproval of the House of Representatives regarding the majority
opinion in the Kelo case."

When it comes to the 2nd Amendment, Hunter said the following in a 2007 interview: "The right to keep and bear arms is an absolute right of Americans to protect their families and their communities and their nation with firearms. In this age of post-911, Americans, I believe are comforted by the fact that our ability to resist terrorism is not limited to law enforcement or
defense agencies but is also within the ability of all gun-owning Americans."

He receives 'A' ratings from both the National Rifle Association (NRA) and the Gun Owners of America (GOA).

Congressman Hunter is also a devout Christian. His firm belief in Jesus Christ informs much of his political philosophy. The sanctity of human life, the cause of freedom for our fellow man, the fight against the poison of political correctness and homosexual 'marriage', and the celebration of our Judeo-Christian American heritage are all rock solid commitments to Duncan Hunter. When the ACLU set its sights on the Mt. Soledad Cross, a war memorial for our the fallen soldiers on the Korean battlefield, Hunter stepped in and put his boot onto the necks of these liberal activists, and helped save the monument from a court ordered removal.

HUNTER VERSUS THE PACK

Certainly, the 2008 republican field is a talented bunch. And most conservatives will agree that any one of these gentlemen - Rudy, Mitt, Fred, Tancredo, Brownback, Paul, Huck, McCain, T. Thompson, or Hunter - is vastly
superior to the inexperienced and defeatist democrat candidates. However, many conservatives are driven by fear of Hillary Clinton. Therefore, this GOP primary
campaign to date can be described as one panic attack after another. It is apparently easy for many to ignore our responsibilities as conservatives, and move directly to hyping perceived electability or a consensus moderate as the main selection criteria. Right out of the gate it was....John McCain. Finishing a close 2nd to George Bush in 2000 made McCain the presumptive frontrunner 8
months ago. He is also the republican that independents and many democrats supposedly swoon over, due to his zest for sticking a finger in the eye of conservatives. By early 2007, McCain had slipped, however, and Rudy Giuliani became the polling leader. Rudy's 9-11 leadership was memorable, and his years as mayor of NYC are impressive in many respects. Mitt Romney, a successful businessman and popular ex-governor of Massachusetts, has been hovering behind McCain and Rudy most of the year, but he also has been building a solid organization and winning the GOP money contest.

The rest of the announced candidates have struggled so far to get coverage either in the mainstream media (MSM) or the conservative mainstream media (CMSM). But the onion is just starting to be peeled back, and it does not look pretty.

Comparing Rudy and Mitt to Duncan Hunter would be a joke under normal circumstances. However, since Hillary-scare has made both initially "viable", Hunter will have to defeat these men just the same as the others. Rudy and Mitt have a combined goose egg for military  experience. Worse, they have never been involved in any capacity that challenged them to seriously consider our foreign policy. Their executive experience consisted of dealing with the mundane; such as school boards and transit, tobacco taxes and fire and police departments, etc. They may have done so competently, but that does not
translate to Presidential duties. When issues of national and constitutional urgency were thrust into their laps, neither man stood tall.

Rudy rushed to Capitol Hill in 1994 to lobby for Clinton's crime bill that included the ill considered AWB (along with a boatful of social engineering nonsense). Hunter was busy crafting a conservative alternative with no social engineering and no AWB. The Clinton version squeaked through, barely edging out the solid Hunter-Brewster alternative. Rudy was so blatantly anti-constitutional regarding the 2nd Amendment, in 2000 he sued 26 gun manufactures to essentially put them out of business, saying that manufacturers "overproduced guns, way beyond what is necessary for hunting and law enforcement". Hunting and law enforcement? Egads!! It took a Hunter co-sponsored bill in Congress, signed by President Bush, to protect these firearms producers from liberal predators such as Mr. Giuliani.

When the conservative congress in 1996 finally pushed Clinton to sign the welfare reform bill, Rudy sued to stop it because it contained provisions that lopped off benefits for illegal aliens. Duncan Hunter, meanwhile, was writing
legislation that would cut all federal benefits for illegal aliens and punish those cities that offered "sanctuary". Of course, Rudy defied the law and staunchly defended NY's sanctuary program. Throughout his mayoral reign, Rudy
continually conflated legal and illegal immigrants.

Hunter's entire congressional career has shown a serious dedication to ending the scourge of illegal immigrants while their cheerleaders such as Mayor Giuliani conspired to undermine federal law.

A single viewing of Mitt Romney's performance against Edward Kennedy in the 1994 Senate debate is all you really need to know about the Romney versus Hunter
comparison. Any republican that competed very well against Teddy in the pro-gay, pro gun control and pro socialized medicine arena is not fit to be Hunter's intern, much less go head to head with the rock ribbed, California
conservative.. Romney did not change his liberal tune much when he ran for and won the Massachusetts race for governor. Indeed, he proudly claimed that he would not chip away at the odious gun control laws of that state. In contrast, Hunter has stated that he would never chip away at the 2nd Amendment, period, which he considers an "absolute" individual right.

When the Massachusetts high court found that there was nothing in their constitution prohibiting gays from legally marrying, it was a chance for Romney to lead on this crucial social issue. Alas, he floundered and instead of
fighting the battle over who had jurisdiction over law making in the state, Romney went ahead and instituted legal gay marriage after the legislature did not come up with a solution as the court requested. While Romney hides behind the court's skirt on this issue, it should be noted that several conservative constitutional experts say many things could have been done to prevent this
illogical and harmful plunge to moral relativism. Hunter, on the other hand, was the fiercest opponent of the Clinton machine during the debates over Don't Ask Don't Tell reform in the military, a policy for which Mitt has voiced
support. Hunter is an co-sponsor of the Federal Marriage Amendment legislation, that one day, hopefully, will make Romney's Massachusetts experiment moot.

Of course, if you listen to Romney on the campaign trail these days, you might wonder what happened between the end of his governorship and 2007. The number of flip flops Romney has embraced would capsize John Kerry's sailboard.

From gun control (though he still supports an AWB) to abortion to illegal immigration to gay rights, Romney is trying to convince primary voters he is now a conservative. The problem is that he does so with the same gusto he used not so long ago to convince Massachusetts that he was a liberal. Hunter, however, isn't buying it and lumped Mitt in with Rudy and McCain as the new "Kennedy Wing" of the Republican party.

As for John McCain, it is not required to go back and revisit his many past transgressions against conservative causes, such as his McCain Feingold Thompson debacle. The recent debates in the Congress on "comprehensive immigration reform" show that McCain and Hunter are diametrically opposed. While McCain has pushed amnesty and called the vast majority of Americans that side with Hunter on this issue "nativists", Hunter has been busy securing GOP (and democratic) support for a real fence and for strict enforcement of existing laws. And it
was Congressman Hunter who was the one man standing in the way of McCain's ill-conceived attempt to defang our military and CIA interrogators in this war on terrorism. And finally, it is Duncan Hunter who thus far has prevented McCain and his posse of internationalists from closing Club Gitmo because it 'makes us look bad'. Hunter has never cared to follow the wishes of the UN or
leftist "human rights" organizations or socialist leaders in Europe or, most importantly, the islamists themselves. Far too often, John McCain has cared.
Brief sketches of the remaining 2nd tier candidates show why none has the ability, temperament or record to compete with Hunter.

Tom Tancredo has been one of Hunter's protégés when it comes to illegal immigration, and his overall conservatism is refreshing and welcome. However,
Tom has also decided that the war in Iraq is a dismal failure and we need to withdraw, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. He has next to no knowledge of our military, its needs or capabilities, and therefore, is in a
poor place to judge the Iraq theatre. Tancredo's other downfall is an occasional case of foot in mouth disease, an affliction from which Hunter has never suffered.

Ron Paul is an interesting character to be sure. And it would take many paragraphs to fully explore the man and his stated small government/libertarian policies. Suffice to say that the GOP will not nominate an anti-war candidate
in the middle of a hot shooting war against the islamists. Paul wants to withdraw. Hunter vows to lead us to complete victory.

Mike Huckabee is fun to listen to, no doubt. He is witty and folksy. But he showed during his tenure as Arkansas governor that he is weak on taxes, weak on spending, weak on illegal aliens and strong on nanny-statism; the exact opposite of Duncan Hunter.

Sam "I want to expand the compassionate conservative agenda" Brownback is too much of a bleeding heart for his own good. Squishy on Iraq, illegal immigration and promoter of anti-poverty policies for the world, he is not the steel-spined man to lead our nation. His performance in the debates can best be summed up in one word: Milquetoast.

Tommy Thompson, former (and successful) governor of Wisconsin, is a good conservative, who, like Sam Brownback, has virtually no stage presence. His
time has passed.

And this brings us to the man who has not yet declared his entry into the 2008 sweepstakes; Fred Dalton Thompson. The best description of the Fred-Hunter match up is to compare a painting by Pierre-Auguste Renoir to a painting by Norman Rockwell. Both paintings are a joy to look at and it is obvious that each artist was very talented. However, on close inspection, it is difficult to make out the details of the former, while the latter painting is crystal clear down to the label on a background jar of peaches.

Hence, with Fred, it has been left up to conservative voters to interpret what he says today, what he has said in the past and what his votes meant during his 8 years as US Senator from Tennessee. The closer you look, the fuzzier the picture gets.

For example, on illegal aliens, Fred has received middling  to poor scores from two organizations that promote an end to illegal immigration, Americans for Better Immigration and Americans for Immigration Control (AIC). Yet Fred's supporters deride these organizations as focusing on "legal" immigration. That is simply false. They focus on both. His supporters point to statements
against the McCain-Kennedy amnesty last year as proof of his "tough on illegals" position. While certainly welcome news, it was, as usual, fuzzy. Here is what he said in a 2006 interview with Sean Hannity:

"And I think that you have to realize that you're either going to drive 12 million people underground permanently, which is not a good solution. You're
going to get them all together and get them out of the country, which is not going to happen. Or you're going to have to, in some way, work out a deal where they can have some aspirations of citizenship, but not make it so easy that it's unfair to the people waiting in line and abiding by the law."

Whatever the heck that means, I am unsure. But it certainly does not echo Hunter's call to deport the illegal aliens and prevent them from ever being able to sneak across the border again. It sounds a lot closer to the McCain-Kennedy model.

Thompson uses vagueness with precision.

On abortion, the National Review, Human Events and other conservative publications (along with the MSM) certainly believed that Fred Thompson was a pro-choice senator. After all, his statements to that effect, such as,
"Government should stay out of it. No public financing. The ultimate decision must be made by the women. Government should treat its citizens as adults capable of making moral decisions on their own
", have been widely read and understood. Of course, the 'Road to Des Moines' can have an interesting side effect, as we have seen with Mitt Romney. Fred claims to be pro-life now,
and is "surprised" that people thought he was ever pro-choice. Indeed, he points to his record on abortion related votes as a testament. However, none of these votes goes to the central issue involved: Is the human fetus a person
deserving of constitutional protection? For Hunter the answer has always been a definitive YES! For Thompson, it is clear as mud. He is against "criminalizing" abortion, which means what? Pass a law to 'suggest' that women carry to term? Fred argued in 1996 to do away with the GOP platform and considered abortion to be a "distracting issue". If he has revised his thinking, fine. But let's get some straight answers about that conversion.
When did he change his mind on the validity of Roe versus Wade, which he previously supported, according to an interview with a Tennessee newspaper? 
When did he decide that the GOP platform is actually NOT "the most useless device" he's ever heard of? Would he veto Hunter's 'Right to Life' bill
which would certainly criminalize abortion? To Hunter and most conservatives, the pro-life plank is not a distracting issue, it is fundamental to our beliefs.
To Fred, it's another subject requiring fuzzy brushstrokes.

Trade with China is an area where at first glance, it would seem that Hunter and Thompson might agree. After all, it was Thompson's investigation into the Clinton fundraising machine that brought many of China's malignant practices to public light. Thompson's own rhetoric had shown a serious mistrust of the Chinese. During debates on trade with China, Fred even sponsored an amendment to tie the trade to improved conduct on the part of the communists. Despite the failure of his amendment, Fred voted in favor of Permanent Most Favored Nation status for China in 2000. Hunter, ever the anti-communist, nearly succeeded in stopping this foolishness, warning that the Chinese would cheat in every which way they could. Once again, as we see from the headlines in 2007, Hunter had the correct foresight.

There is not enough time here to cover the McCain Feingold Thompson bill and Fred's role in its entirety. It is a long tale that lasts from 1995 through his last year as senator to his defense of the bill in the Supreme Court in 2003.

He considered it a seminal achievement in his senatorial career. In fact, looking closely at the things Thompson championed in his 8 years, it may be the only seminal achievement. His work on defense and intelligence issues was reasonable, but he certainly was not a standout in these areas. And his attempts to introduce a modicum of federalism were admirable, if largely unsuccessful. When you stack up that record with Duncan Hunter's bare knuckle fights and leadership for border enforcement, protection of life, expansion of military funding, the protection of critical military programs from Clinton's Pentagon, unflinching defense of the 2nd Amendment, stands against Chinese communists, and supply side economics, there is little doubt who the 2008 Republican nominee should be.

CAN HUNTER WIN?

In a word, yes. Watching the four GOP debates it becomes very clear how serious a candidate Hunter really is. Each question that he addressed was answered with conviction, common sense and authority. Even Mitt Romney (no weak debater himself), after one of the debates, gave props to Hunter. {For the record, it was not after the debate where Hunter stuffed him into the Kennedy wing of the party}. The level of gravitas and the sheer breadth of experience Hunter has over all the leading democrats combined is staggering. His expertise on the subject matter is never in question. And the authority he exhibits on military affairs leaves little doubt who would be the Commander in Chief most feared by our enemies, from the Iranian mullahs to the communists in Beijing. 

A debate between Duncan Hunter and Hillary/Obama would be so one sided, it is difficult to find a modern parallel. And by the time Hunter wins the GOP nomination, the name/face recognition problems he suffers from currently will be a thing of the past.

So how does Hunter win the GOP nomination, starting at such a disadvantage compared to the "celebrity" candidates? After all, Rudy T. McRomney is not only a household name, but they collectively have most of the early, large GOP power brokers and donors behind them. Several points need to be made. First, looking at the money totals to date, the democrats are beating the republicans by a healthy clip. This indicates that most conservatives have not jumped into bed with Rudy, Mitt or McCain. Across the blogosphere and republican forums, it is obvious that a portion of those people holding their wallets tightly are waiting for Fred to officially enter the fray. But an equal number of conservatives are for 'none of the above' at this time (as shown by several polls), perhaps waiting for the political season to kick off after Labor Day to begin paying attention. So there is a natural constituency of support for Hunter if he can get his message out. Second, and fortunately for Hunter, his supporters are mostly highly enthusiastic about the man. And that message is getting out.

First it was a small number of passionate bloggers that early on examined Hunter or knew of his record. Now, there are dozens and the list keeps growing. The fact that Hunter is NOT going to drop out and is not just testing the waters – he is resigning from Congress in 2008, unlike the others – gives Hunter supporters the luxury of campaigning for the long haul. 'Meetup' sites have sprung up and they are starting to coordinate their efforts nationwide. Third, as Fred's record in the Senate is examined, and his continued fuzziness on the issues remains, more 'Fredheads' are going to be looking for a candidate they can trust to forward the conservative agenda. Already, many people who were placing hope in Fred have seen him hire Spencer Abraham (an open borders stiff), flub the abortion lobbying issue, and are realizing his record is that of moderate, semi-globalist Howard Baker protégé, not a Reaganite. Fourth, the things that make Hunter most attractive are all coming to the fore. From China's continued malfeasance on trade and security, to communists thugs setting up shop in South America, to the debate over illegal aliens and some odious NAFTA provisions, to cultural issues such as gay marriage and the ACLU's attacks on our heritage, to the need for an even stronger Commander in Chief to take the reigns from President Bush in our war against the islamists, to core issues of national sovereignty, Hunter IS the right man at the right time.

TO RUSH LIMBAUGH & CO.

And finally, a note to Rush Limbaugh and other conservative talkers that cover America's airwaves and are on the front lines in the fight against liberalism. After the debacle of the 2006 midterm election, you, Mr. Limbaugh, came out in no uncertain terms that you were through "carrying water" for the republicans. That too often, you gave the GOP's march to the mushy middle too little attention. You and other radio hosts, rightly I believe, diagnosed the ills of the republicans in power back then as a lack of focus on core issues of conservatism. The prescription, in your view, was a return to Reaganism. The run up to the 2006 vote saw President Bush, VP Cheney and a small handful of congressional allies defending the Iraq war while multitudes of GOP congressman 'cut and run' from the debate, leaving the playing field largely to the MSM and their democratic comrades. We saw talk of perhaps finding common ground on global warming and fear about pushing ahead ANWR exploration. We saw a party fretting about defending our trampled borders for fear of the Hispanic vote. We saw precious little effort expended to make the Bush tax cuts permanent. We saw Bill Frist and friends cut the president off at the knees when he waded out into the Social Security debate swamp. We saw efforts to reign in Iran fail as we foolishly relied on our European allies and the United Nations.

Given all of the above and the frustration of seeing too many cowardly republicans refusing to stand on principle, or even worse, co-opting nuggets of the liberal agenda, it has become imperative that we all support the best real conservative in the 2008 primary. No more support for flip flopping, wishy-washy, or liberal candidates. That means no support for Rudy the NY liberal, who would sign just about any gun control bill the liberals could cough up. After all, his record on the 2nd Amendment is indistinguishable from that of Michael Bloomberg. That means no support for Mitt Romney, who a few short years ago could have been running as a democrat and no one would have batted an eye, and whose Road to Des Moines conversions would be flogged 24/7 by the media and democrats. That means no support for John McCain, who is the poster child for Amnesty and Accommodation with his "good friend" Hillary. That means no support for Fred Thompson, who either has the world's worst memory, or is busy trying to obfuscate his past and convince us that he was really a Reaganite, not the Howard Baker/John McCain poodle we all understood him to be a few short years ago.

It is simply intolerable to hear the likes of Sean Hannity, Bill Bennett and others singing the praises of liberal and moderate celebrities as if they are offering our nation and the Grand Old Party a new conservative direction. If the frontrunners were named Linc, Arnold, Lindsey and Lamar instead of Rudy, Mitt, John, and Fred, there would be no qualitative difference.

That leaves Duncan Hunter as the man that ALL conservatives can support. And support enthusiastically.


 

Mr. Limbaugh, now is not the time to go wobbly.

 

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Links of interest:

1. Rudy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhe38wJ86Do

2. Romney:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9IJUkYUbvI

3. Fred:

http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/192754.aspx

4. Hunter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLbrHI0vu9o


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To: Calpernia

Good name anyway. :o)


141 posted on 08/07/2007 1:48:53 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Calpernia

Nice article!


142 posted on 08/07/2007 1:59:06 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB

bump!


143 posted on 08/07/2007 2:00:49 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: sitetest
If your sentiments about abortion (in your tagline) are sincere, I doubt Fred is going to rock the boat on that issue. DH, IMO, is more diligent about *right to life* issues whether you think he might win or not. Just a word of advice from someone you don’t know.........the *Dear whoever* is kind of creepy.
144 posted on 08/07/2007 2:02:26 PM PDT by wolfcreek (2 bad Tyranny, Treachery and Treason never take a vacation...)
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To: Antoninus
Because the media is bound and determined to have a liberal candidate (like Rudy McRomney) as the GOP nominee next year.

Next year? The media has picked the liberal GOP nominee for the last 4 elections. At least. Unfortunately, some here are willing to let them do it again. Boggles the mind.

145 posted on 08/07/2007 2:11:45 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: sitetest

Sorry, NOT good enough.

Amnesty/aspirations of citizenship for NO illegal aliens.


146 posted on 08/07/2007 2:20:17 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (..."we must give them aspirations of citizenship"... - Fred Thompson, 2006)
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To: ZULU

“I think that most people would be willing to cut illegals who have been here for many years - say 5 or more years - a break, especially if they had a family, were working and not on welfare, were paying taxes, had no criminal record and WANTED TO STAY HERE AND BE AMERICANS.”

That would be amnesty.

NO AMNESTY for illegal aliens.


147 posted on 08/07/2007 2:22:43 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (..."we must give them aspirations of citizenship"... - Fred Thompson, 2006)
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To: ZULU; Kimberly GG

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1864263/posts

Excerpt:

Irving Baxter: Let’s say that these fences really work and become air tight and I believe that is possible. What do we do about all the people that are already here?

Duncan Hunter: I think we ask them to go home. This country has lost 619 thousand Americans on the battlefields around the world in the last 100 years making the world safe. The reason we are not sending people back to Nazi Germany because we took care of Nazi Germany and we liberated the Germans and the reason we are not sending people back to a Communist Poland is because we brought down the Berlin Wall. The reason we are not sending people back to a Marxist Dictatorship in El Salvador is because we liberated El Salvador. We have made the world much freer. And we have pumped billions of dollars into lots of countries to improve their economies. So I think the United States, more than any nation in the world, has a right to tell folks, you folks stay in your own country, make it work and when you want to come into America knock on the front door.

Irving Baxter: We are interviewing today, U.S. Congressman Duncan Hunter, from California, Republican candidate for President of the United States. We are very happy to have him with us. Congressman, I don’t want to just pound away on a single issue I want to give you a chance to speak to some other things that are very important to you and our nation. But before we leave the immigration issue, I just want to follow up a little bit. So we got an estimate of 12 - 20 million illegals here. I’ll be honest with you, this gives me a mixed feeling because I know some of them. I’ve met them. They are working, some have been here a long, long time. They broke the law to get here. Our government has broke the law to allow them to get here. So I think our government has some responsibility. Do you really think we can require them all to go home?

Duncan Hunter: Well, sure. I think we can. And the point is, going back to Mexico is not the end of the world. Mexico is a wonderful country. It has enormous natural resources. We have put billions of dollars into Mexico to give them an economic shot in the arm.

And you know something else, a lot of folks that come to the United States, who are here illegally, have homes in other countries. Now one reason politicians in Mexico City like the open border, is because people come across and send back billions of dollars. The last figure I saw was between 6 – 10 billion dollars a year, of money that they make in the United States to their real homes, in this case in Mexico. But other people come from lots of other countries. In fact in the year 2005 we apprehended, and these are just the folks we caught, we caught a 155 thousand people coming across the border from Mexico that weren’t just citizens of Mexico. They came from virtually every country in the world, including 1100 folks from communist China and a few folks from North Korea and Iran. So the idea that the guy that got smuggled into this country in December because he had an affective smuggler, has the right to have citizenship in the United States, I can’t accept that.

Once again, a whole lot of folks that are here have second homes or have original homes. To make them an American citizen would basically be giving them 2 citizenships. They would be having the citizenship in their original home, where they send their money and they would now have a citizenship in the United States. The problem with giving Amnesty is this, we gave Amnesty in 1986 for 3 million people. And we said that’s it. No one else can come across. The U.S. Senate put up a little stop sign and put it on the border. That stop sign was promptly run over with Goodyear Tires and you had 12 million people stampede for that border after the 1st Amnesty. If we give a second Amnesty, we will have a third wave of people rushing the border of the United States because that is human nature. You will have people coming over expecting the 3rd Amnesty. Just like people came over the 1st Amnesty saying I’ll come in now, 5, 6, 7 years from now they will have another one and I’ll be legalized. Once you abandon the rule of law you are in real trouble. There is nothing wrong with folks going home and then applying for admission back into the United States. Now if they come from a country where people are in danger of being killed if they go back and that happens sometimes. During the days of the Cold War, and before we brought down the Berlin Wall, there were some very dangerous places. There are still a few of them, where people can’t go back and they probably will be killed if they go back. And we give humanitarian exception for those folks. We have done a lot to spread freedom and economic prosperity around this world if they would take it up.

The other thing is, I think the politicians in Mexico City like the open border because it is a pressure release valve for them. If they don’t take care of their people if they don’t provide economic opportunity, and they don’t, than instead of their voters throwing them out of office they want people to vote with their feet and just leave the country. And that is what they do. They vote with their feet and leave the country and come to the United States. I think there is nothing wrong with letting that pressure build up and result in a changed political system that hopefully results in freedom for the people rather than have them vote with their feet and come to the United States and do another Amnesty.

Irving Baxter: You make wonderful points Congressman. The recent immigration bill that was defeated, I got the impression, that was, although I am not saying we should be for Amnesty I think we would have a huge problem, ….But, I don’t think it Amnesty is what killed that bill. A lot of people say it was an anti Amnesty vote and yet when Kay Bailey Hutchinson presented her amendment that people had to go home and apply and come back that amendment was defeated. It was killed that is not the reason the Senate killed this bill it was when the Balicus (?) Tester amendment came up. And that striped out of the bill, the Real ID provisions. That appears to be what killed that bill. Do you have any comments on that?

Duncan Hunter: You know, it’s hard to tell. Because when you have an amendment that comes up you may have a Senator that votes for the amendment even if he doesn’t agree with it on the basis that it will make the bill so ugly that the bill can’t pass. So it is very difficult to read the motives in the political cross currents when have a bill with a lot of amendments coming up. I think the Amnesty provisions did jam the senate switch boards and I think that’s the issue that convinced lots of Senators to take a second look at this one.

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148 posted on 08/07/2007 2:31:32 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: sitetest

And there is our whole problem in a nutshell... we are content to have an “acceptable” candidate... And don’t get me wrong, I like Fred, and honestly, if Hunter is not the candidate, then the only other one I see myself supporting is Fred. But why do we insist on cutting our legs out from under ourselves time after time?

All a person has to do is hang out here on FR and read post after post about how we need a solid conservative candidate for a change (and I don’t mean that false doctrine of “compassionate-conservative”). We continue to preach to the choir, and then when the time comes to put up or shut up, we say - ok, an acceptable candidate...

We harp how we want change, then vote for the same-old thing.

What the heck? We need a conservative. Fred kind of plays that roll - kind of. He is likeable, which is a plus. But that does not mean he will be a great president. Better than ObiminaHitlery - sure. Better than RudiMcRomney - probably - but why do we not look towards trying to elect a truly great candidate? One that might actually make a tangible POSITIVE difference? Because we are afraid to go out on a limb.

Fred talks a big game about wanting to come in to make a change - and that is great. But if he were honest about his reasons - he would look at someone like Hunter first - and then, if that candidate didn’t look to be able to deliver, then sure - jump in. Maybe that is what Fred is waiting for - or maybe he has an alternative motive...

But if we continue to settle for less than what we really want and believe in, then we have lost the right to complain when we get another turkey in office. Just think about how great most here on FR thought about GW - and now it isn’t hare to find anger, frustration, and even a desire for him to be out of office sooner rather than later. Heck, I have even heard (and written a few) suggestions that he should be impeached over his attempt to give away US sovereignty... Such a far cry from suggesting his face be on Mt. Rushmore...


149 posted on 08/07/2007 2:36:02 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: Calpernia
Comparing Rudy and Mitt to Duncan Hunter would be a joke under normal circumstances. However, since Hillary-scare has made both initially "viable", Hunter will have to defeat these men just the same as the others. Rudy and Mitt have a combined goose egg for military experience. Worse, they have never been involved in any capacity that challenged them to seriously consider our foreign policy. Their executive experience consisted of dealing with the mundane; such as school boards and transit, tobacco taxes and fire and police departments, etc. They may have done so competently, but that does not translate to Presidential duties. When issues of national and constitutional urgency were thrust into their laps, neither man stood tall.
150 posted on 08/07/2007 3:02:25 PM PDT by Lexinom (http://www.gohunter08.com Don't let the press pick our candidates)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks!

The difference between Duncan Hunter and Fred Thompson on this issue is like night and day.

Hunter is a no nonsense, ‘get it done’ guy on both securing the borders (6 months) and no-amnesty enforcement of our immigration laws.

As far as I’m concerned, CFRer Fred Thompson will do no more than Bush would. I’m looking forward to him explaining exactly how he’s going to determine who is here, determine who is faced with attrition, and since he opposes ‘blanket’ amnesty, the criteria he’ll use to determine which and how many illegal aliens get “aspirations of citizenship” (amnesty).


151 posted on 08/07/2007 3:03:20 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (..."we must give them aspirations of citizenship"... - Fred Thompson, 2006)
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To: Lexinom

Ain’t that the truth.


152 posted on 08/07/2007 3:05:00 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Califreak

On The Issues....

FAIR & EQUITABLE TRADE

Fair Trade, Not Free Trade = Jobs

China Cheating  on Trade / America is a GREAT Nation

SECOND AMENDMENT

Glen & Helen Show

ECONOMY & TAXES

Address to Fair Tax Rally 05-15-07

Address to CPAC

CONGRESSIONAL RECORD

Iraq Resolution / Hunter vs. Democrats / Surge is Working

Senate Amnesty Bill / Amnesty Fails / Amnesty Fails Again

LEGAL REFORM

Gonzales Firings / Pardon Scooter? / ”Fairness” Doctrine

Border Agents Compean & Ramos / Defending Border Agents

ENDORSEMENTS

Appeal to Conservatives / General Chuck Yeager

Ann Coulter / Magnificent! / Favorite

Announcement – Part 1 & Part 2 / Music Video

On the Road to the Oval Office / The Conservative Case

A Fresh Face / Blog Collection / Constitution Party / Grassroots HQ

EDUCATION

No Child Left Behind

HEALTHCARE

Ronald Reagan Health Care / ‘National’ HealthCare / “One step closer to socialism”

IMMIGRATION

Border Enforcement is Homeland Security / NAFTA

Building a Fence / “Jobs Americans won’t do”?

Enforce the Law / No Amnesty / Party of One / Ted Hayes

SAFETY & SECURITY

Cooking with Hunter / War On Terror / To America’s Critics / JFK Plot

Mark Steyn on 1986 Amnesty / Firefighter’s Forum

FAITH & VALUES

Blogs for Life / Judicial Appointments / Right to Life Rally

Terri Shaivo / Mt. Soledad Cross  - Flyer / Roe vs. Wade / Hate Crimes

INTERVIEWS

Dennis Miller (June 1st – 3rd Hour)

Roger Hedgecock (4/6, 4/24, 4/25, 6/8, 6/29, 7/2, 7/17, 7/19)

Laura Ingraham – Part 1 & Part 2 / Steve Malzberg 06-19-07

Brian Preston – Hot Air / William Gheen - ALIPAC

WRKO Pundit Review Radio / Polipundit Radio

Kevin McCullough – Musclehead Revolution / John Hawkins

NHPR’s Laura Knoy on The Exchange / Irving Baxter

WESH – Orlando (Conversation with the Candidate) / Wolf Blitzer

 Hardball 07-30-2007 / Hardball - Al Sharpton / George Stephanopolis

 Charlie Rangel – Part 1 & Part 2 / Dennis Kucinich – Part 1 & Part 2

Glenn Beck / JD Hayworth 1 & 2 / Tom McLaughlin

DEBATES

Reagan Library 05-03-07 / After Interview

South Carolina 05-15-07 / Fox Interview

New Hampshire 06-05-07 / Spin Room - NH/ Lynne Hunter

Iowa Presidential Candidate Forum 06-30-07

Iowa 08-05-07 / Hunter vs Paul

POLLS

Hunter Beats McCain / Maricopa County, Arizona 01-13-07

Spartanburg, South Carolina 03-01-07

Anderson County, South Carolina 04-17-07 / Free Republic

ADDITIONAL AUDIO & VIDEOS

Young Republicans - Part1 / Part2 / Part3

Core Principles / BIG STORY WEEKEND with Julie Bandaras

Brian & the Judge: 01-10-2007 / 02-08-2007 / 03-12-2007/ Cost of WH Run

The Right Balance hosted by Greg Allen / Still in the Race / Duncan D. Hunter

 


153 posted on 08/07/2007 4:06:50 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: RasterMaster

There you are.


154 posted on 08/07/2007 4:08:39 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Better late than never!


155 posted on 08/07/2007 4:10:33 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: RasterMaster

Long read, but well worth it.


156 posted on 08/07/2007 4:11:36 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Looks like this one is well worth the BOOKMARK!


157 posted on 08/07/2007 4:12:55 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Calpernia

Wow, Great Article! That makes the case for Duncan Hunter better than anything I have read yet. The campaign should distribute that everywhere.


158 posted on 08/07/2007 4:30:34 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: Calpernia

Hunter BUMP


159 posted on 08/07/2007 4:36:26 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: RasterMaster

You don’t have to convince me. You’d have to kill me to get me off Hunter’s train!


160 posted on 08/07/2007 4:36:46 PM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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