Gentlemen, I find this set up very odd.
My roomie is a network admin for a large ISP and their NOC is set up about like that. Of course, they handle some sensitive accounts so that may be why. I know they are likely paranoid about somebody getting into their system and planting something. You’ve all heard about the kiddie pron blackmail schemes, I assume.
read later
http://www.mnnonline.org/article/10052
Warren to present his PEACE plan
Print Mobile Posted: 22 June, 2007
USA (MNN) — Rick Warren, founder of Purpose Driven Ministries and author of The Purpose Driven Life, will be speaking at the Baptist General Convention of Texas.
Warren will speak at the October convention on his PEACE plan. The plan is “very similar to the concerns of the Baptist General Convention of Texas,” according to Charles Wade, executive director of BGCT.
It’s an endeavor to get the church to be the forerunners in eliminating social issues such as illiteracy, poverty, and AIDS. His sermon will be the focal point of the meeting which is called “Missions - Together We Can Do More.” Up to 2.3 million people from 5,600 congregations could be in attendance at the conference.
Time magazine has named Warren America’s New People’s Pastor. “Rick has caught the attention of the people around the world with his vision of what local churches can do to make a genuine difference in solving the giant problems facing humanity,” said Wade. The Economist calls Warren one of the most influential pastors in America.
Warren’s Saddleback Church started with one family in 1980 in Lake Forest, California. Currently 22,000 attend weekly.
Obama Points to Rick Warren, T.D. Jakes as Models for Faith-Driven Action
By Michelle Vu
Christian Post Reporter
Mon, Jun. 25 2007 04:44 PM ET
Prominent Christian leaders such as Rick Warren and T.D. Jakes were praised by Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) this weekend as role models of Christians who put their faith into action.
In his first speech on the intersection of faith and politics as a presidential contender, Obama discussed how religion should inspire people across the Christian spectrum to unite in helping to eradicate social problems rather than divide them.
“I’m hopeful because I think there’s an awakening taking place in America,” said Obama on Saturday at the United Church of Christ’s 50th anniversary convention. “People are coming together around a simple truth – that we are all connected, that I am my brother’s keeper; I am my sister’s keeper.”
During his speech to a crowd of nearly 10,000 people, the senator, a member of Trinity UCC in Chicago, criticized division within the Church, but praised Christian leaders and groups that have worked together to remedy social problems.
“That’s why pastors, friends of mine like Rick Warren and T.D. Jakes and organizations like World Vision and Catholic Charities are wielding their enormous influence to confront poverty, HIV/AIDS, and the genocide in Darfur,” Obama said.
Dr. Rick Warren, senior pastor of Saddleback Church in California, had invited Obama to his church’s HIV/AIDS conference last winter despite vehement protests by pro-life groups that urged the megachurch pastor to rescind his invitation because of the senator’s pro-choice stance. Warren had refused to uninvite Obama, explaining that he wanted the Church to work together on the HIV/AIDS crisis despite their personal differences on other issues.
“I’m hearing from evangelicals who may not agree with progressives on every issue but agree that poverty has no place in a world of plenty; that hate has no place in the hearts of believers; and that we all have to be good stewards of God’s creations,” said Obama.
“From Willow Creek to the ‘emerging church,’ from the Southern Baptist Convention to the National Association of Evangelicals, folks are realizing that the four walls of the church are too small for a big God. ‘God is still speaking,’” the senator added, citing the motto of UCC’s media branding campaign.
Obama also talked about health care, the genocide in Darfur, Guantanamo Bay, Iraq, and the controversial immigration bill.
The UCC, which celebrated its 50th anniversary on Saturday, is holding its biennial General Synod in Hartford, Conn., June 22-26. The liberal denomination, which prides itself on being the first denomination to ordain openly gay and lesbian ministers, emphasizes progressive causes and also began to endorse same-sex “marriage” starting in 2005 - a decision which caused a rift in the denomination and the departure of about 100 churches from the UCC.
Last year, according to the Yearbook of American and Canadian Churches, UCC faced a 3.8 percent membership drop in the 1.2 million-member church body. Donations from church members to the UCC’s national offices and regional conferences also decreased by more than $2 million in 2006, according to the church’s annual report.
FYI
ANY of HUNDREDS of datacenters AROUND the USA and EUROPE are set up like that. Nothing scary in and of itself.
He’s not scary, he just wants to be a celebrity, no wait, he is scary.
I don’t know all that much about the specific content described herein - but good grief, the BREATHLESS tone of the reporting contrasted with some of the more mundane facts presented (secured computing facilities - *yawn*) makes me want to do LOTS more research before I start proclaiming that the AntiChrist is upon the earth...
All of these mega cults and islamo fascists, and now 40 million mexicans able to vote in the USA... oops, I am only slightly ahead of myself on that last one... but, in a short while I will be right... anyway,... all these are just setting the stage for Anti-christ...
Ping ... isn’t Warren one of your stinkers?
Sure they do. The 'whatever it takes' is a lie. He won't preach the truth, and that's the ONLY thing they really fear. They're glad to take his social gospel and handouts as long as he doesn't preach the true Gospel, the one which really saves.
Warren is like every other phony minister who makes himself the center of his church and conducts services like a game show host.
I lived in Mission Viejo when he started his church with a lot of disgruntled members of other churches who were looking for a more fundamentalist interpretation of the Bible than they were getting from the main stream churches. He preached the kind of sermon that they wanted hear, at least for a the first five years, or so. I mean these people in the congregation were so seriously fundamentalist that one man that we knew took the radio out of the car that he bought his daughter because he didn’t want her listening to rock and roll.