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Abortion - Don't just hold Rudy and Mitt accountable, remember Fred
Spark it Up ^ | June 24, 2007

Posted on 06/24/2007 7:54:42 AM PDT by rob21

We are holding Rudy and Mitt to the fire about their past on abortion. Lets not forget Fred Thompson.

Abortions should be legal in all circumstances as long as the procedure is completed within the first trimester of the pregnancy. Link

A very strong statement from Fred Thompson when he was running for congress.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; duncanhunter; elections; fredonabortion; fredthompson; rino; romney; rudygiuliani; troll; zot
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To: RachelFaith

I appreciate your candor.


161 posted on 06/24/2007 2:04:05 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Politicalmom; rob21
‘I interviewed him and on all of the questions I asked him, he opposed abortion,’ St. Martin said. She told me that the group went on to support him in that election, and his record reinforced for her that their determination was correct.

I have a friend who was with Tennessee Right to Life and reported differently. Mr. Thompson told them that he wasn't going to take a position in the campaign and that people would just have to look at what he does when he's in the Senate.

While I strongly prefer Mr. Hunter to Mr. Thompson, I don't agree with the tone of the argument made in this thread. To say that Mr. Thompson supports murdering babies is at the least a gross distortion of statements that he may have made. The better way of describing the situation is that Mr. Thompson has never been a champion of the pro-life movement. He has made statements that leave his position in some doubt, but his voting record has been very good. The biggest blot on his voting record regarding abortion is his support of campaign finance reform which could prevent abortion opponents from supporting pro-life candidates.

Personally, I don't ask that a candidate be a great champion of the pro-life movement, but like many others on Free Republic, I'm frustrated at how people seem to be projecting their strong conservattism on a candidate who isn't that conservative. Fred Thompson has strengths and weaknesses and certainly doesn't have perfect conservative credentials. On abortion, I think he'd move the ball forward for our side, but I recognize that a good voting record as a legislator does not necessarily mean someone will be effective as an executive.

If I must choose between Mr. Thompson and Mr. Hunter, I'll choose Mr. Hunter. If I must choose between Mr. Thompson and Mr. Romney, I'll likely lean towards Mr. Romney. If the only viable candidates on my ballot are Mr. Thompson and Mr. Giuliani, I'll happily vote for Mr. Thompson.

Bill

162 posted on 06/24/2007 2:26:07 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: RachelFaith
How did that happen? Simple. He hired morons and snake oil salesmen... ehr... saleswoman.. to be precise... and they have done utterly nothing except take his money and laugh as he sits at the bottom of the tank holding his breath.

Who were these people?

163 posted on 06/24/2007 2:36:55 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: Beelzebubba

Have you looked to see if Thompson has a “big spending” record? Just curious. Did he support any earmarks or Pork for Tennessee while he was a Senator?

I see Hunter as being strong on defense and having backed additional spending in that area. I don’t see that as a problem—in most cases I see it as warranted after Clinton stripped the military dry.


164 posted on 06/24/2007 3:10:07 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: rob21
Why can’t I question the almighty Fred Thompson?

Because you are misrepresenting his position on abortion.

Fred has denied that he personally answered that questionnaire during his '94 campaign, a campaign worker filled it out and answered the abortion question as she thought his position would be, not as she knew it to be for certain. Does anyone believe that Thompson is dumb enough to have answered the question in that manner while running for office in the ultimate bible-belt state of Tennessee? As has been pointed out numerous times both here an on countless other threads, Fred was interviewed by a National Right to Life official during that same campaign, and based on that interview was given an A rating by the organization. Again, does anyone with a functional brain really believe that National Right to Life would grant an A rating and it's unqualified endorsement to a candidate who openly supported a “woman’s right to choose” as his enemies now claim he did at that time?

As has also been pointed out countless times, Fred’s voting record for the 7 years he served in the Senate was 100% pro-life. That in itself should be enough to convince any unbiased person of his opposition to legalized abortion, but the misleading accusations that are being made by disingenuous and frightened supporters of other candidates regarding that one erroneous answer to a routine questionnaire is being touted as the definitive answer to the question of his position on that issue. Even a seasoned politician lacking a conscience should be ashamed to use such a low tactic against an opponent, and IMHO an honorable and decent conservative such as Duncan Hunter would not personally condone such a disreputable tactic.

Just for the record, I have a high regard for Hunter and I could enthusiastically support him for any high office in the land. But my support combined with the support of you and the relative handful of other Duncan admirers would not be a drop in the bucket of support that he would need to even become a viable contender for the nomination, much less to win the nomination itself. But I am mistaken and he does become a truly viable candidate, I am not bound to any candidate at this time and I could easily become a Duncan supporter in that extremely unlikely eventuality. But if that should come to pass in spite of the overwhelming odds against it, I will not use misleading "information" against his opposition here on FR or any other public venue.

165 posted on 06/24/2007 3:16:24 PM PDT by epow (Blessed are those servants, whom the Lord when he cometh shall find watching:)
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To: calcowgirl

Have you looked to see if Thompson has a “big spending” record? Just curious.


Yes. I am very pleased with his staunch Federalist principles, keeping the Federal government from doing what it should not, even when well-intentioned. I don’t expect him to be perfect, but I expect him to have principles he has lived by.


166 posted on 06/24/2007 3:22:26 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: All
Hunter's my man. I've hooked my wagon to his and will support him to the end.

If Hunter decides to drop out or doesn't make it to the primaries and Fred does, I would have no problem moving to Fred's camp.

Until that day, Hunter continues to have my support. Never have I dogged Thompson, he is a conservative.

167 posted on 06/24/2007 3:34:49 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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BRAVO, BRAVO

Another Hunter supporter or two gone. How many more to go?


168 posted on 06/24/2007 3:50:09 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (HUNTER - 08 (Fred Thompson will NEVER get my vote!))
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To: Kimberly GG
Another Hunter supporter or two gone. How many more to go?

Hunter's my man. Get me gone.

169 posted on 06/24/2007 4:16:02 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Kimberly GG
I may have misread your post. I apologize if I did.
170 posted on 06/24/2007 4:17:47 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: EGPWS; Admin Moderator

What in God’s name are you saying?


171 posted on 06/24/2007 4:19:51 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: processing please hold; Kimberly GG

rob21 was banned, hence her sarcastic “BRAVOS.”

Look at post #53, pph.


172 posted on 06/24/2007 4:20:43 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Beelzebubba
I am very pleased with his staunch Federalist principles, keeping the Federal government from doing what it should not, even when well-intentioned.

Like buying hybrid buses for Chattanooga?

Remember: Glass houses.

Hunter's record doesn't look bad.

173 posted on 06/24/2007 4:20:44 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Thanks. Wow, what a post.

I though we were having a Hunter purge for a sec. That's why I said, 'get me gone'

Go Hunter!

174 posted on 06/24/2007 4:24:14 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: calcowgirl

Like buying hybrid buses for Chattanooga?


That the worst you got? Federal transportation dollars going to city buses?


175 posted on 06/24/2007 4:26:28 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I certainly hope that this thread is not an example of things to come around here. ‘08 can’t come soon enough.


176 posted on 06/24/2007 4:27:08 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (HUNTER - 08 (Fred Thompson will NEVER get my vote!))
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To: epow
"Fred has denied that he personally answered that questionnaire during his '94 campaign"

What about the 1996 questionnaire? he didn't fill that one out either?

http://www.cbn.com/images4/cbnnews/blogs/TennesseansForChoiceQuestionnaire.pdf

 

What about the Christian Coalition survey?

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070610/NEWS0206/706100399/1001/NEWS

 

"National Right to Life would grant an A rating"

You have a link for this? his rating was 77 in 1999-2000 while most other republicans got 100:

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=22003

177 posted on 06/24/2007 5:06:58 PM PDT by DieselHoplite
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To: BillyBoy

You are right. 0 rating from NARAL and Planned Parenthood is not much to brag about. That’s what most republicans get from those organizations:

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?sig_id=001958M&sort=rating

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?sig_id=001709M&sort=rating


178 posted on 06/24/2007 5:15:59 PM PDT by DieselHoplite
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To: WFTR
Who were these people?

WERE ??

ARE!! Google them and look on his website. Doesn't matter tho... he isn't gonna replace them and they will all be with Fred in a matter of weeks anyway. Too late for Duncan... he blew it and that's that. Doubt me, wait until he crashes and burns at the Iowa Straw Poll and then begins to be excluded from the debates if he stays in. Oh, and follow the money,... the reports are due in just a few weeks.
179 posted on 06/24/2007 5:18:40 PM PDT by RachelFaith
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To: rob21

Fred has shown he has not had the best judgment on many important issues. And even if he is proclaiming some things he did a ‘mistake’ or he has changed now, it ought to be a wake up call that this man has made them on major issues. Not the man to trust as President. But we are all supposed to fall in line because he ‘can win’. Rah rah rah. The party needs to change its ways and Thompson is not the person to lead. He NEVER has.


180 posted on 06/24/2007 5:25:27 PM PDT by bushfamfan (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRES. IN 2008)
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