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1 posted on 06/13/2007 12:09:49 PM PDT by jmc813
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He called us Kos wannabes? That’s below the belt, we’re not even in the same league as them. What a dumb@ss.


2 posted on 06/13/2007 12:12:00 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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Just so I have this clear

- I can’t oppose the war because the BDS gang is insane and vulgar.

-I can’t oppose this immigration bill because other opponents are vulgar and racist.

-I can’t eat schnitzel because Hitler probably really liked it.

-I can’t vote for a Libertarian because hippie potheads and 9/11 conspiracy types do.

-I can’t go to a Baptist church because of that sick Baptist congregation pickets funerals.

-I can’t use the Internet because Al Gore ... [Network Connection Terminated]


3 posted on 06/13/2007 12:15:03 PM PDT by ER_in_OC,CA
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$10k fine per illegal worker per day. Enforcement will pay for itself, all offenders will be out of business, and the flood across the border will stop. A one sentence long immigration reform bill. You’re welcome.


5 posted on 06/13/2007 12:17:31 PM PDT by mysterio
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I think he’s saying that everyone on FR is a racist.

But I’m not sure, his writing is too turgid.


6 posted on 06/13/2007 12:18:44 PM PDT by angkor
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He is a RINO, probably a Rooty or McCain guy.


7 posted on 06/13/2007 12:20:07 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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Foul and ugly heat my eye. The person who wrote this has absolutely no understanding of the law abiding citizen. Too bad.


9 posted on 06/13/2007 12:23:40 PM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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"Mr Gutierrez, I can grow my own vegetables, mow my own yard and I don’t want a disease infested illegal taking care of me when I am sick!

So bugger off!"

I like the concise way that sums up my feelings too!

10 posted on 06/13/2007 12:24:07 PM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD -"What would Jack Bauer do?")
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AJStrata? Never heard of him, and now I know why. What a tool.


11 posted on 06/13/2007 12:26:40 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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immigration hypochondriacs

I know most Mexicans don't go beyond 6th grade but I would think someone with his own website would think up a better name.

13 posted on 06/13/2007 12:28:23 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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14 posted on 06/13/2007 12:29:35 PM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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-—“If you had mandatory jail time” for such offenses, Graham said, “I think it would create a deterrent.”-—

The laws are not enforced now. Why should we believe tougher laws will be enforced? Are we just supposed to go along with this madness so race card aficionados like Strata won’t call us names?


15 posted on 06/13/2007 12:33:56 PM PDT by claudiustg (I didn't leave the Republican Party. I was purged.)
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This is not over yet. Bush refuses to give up this easily. It's his stubborn character. He will try to resurrect it and call it something else. We have to keep our guard up. We need to keep the pressure up.

STAGE TWO is to go after the people who hire illegals. Start giving them fines and arresting them. Just catch ten or 100 of them on the nightly news. The magnet will dry up and most of the 12 million will go home by themselves.

As an addendum, we should anonymously call the IRS, people working "off the books" means taxes ain't being paid. Make anonymous fliers and hang them around the neighborhood, name names. It's time to embarrass these bustards, whether they give to the GOP or Rats, we don't need them.

CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!

WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!

Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti illegal immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them. This is a bipartisan issue not a Conservative or Liberal issue BUT AN AMERICAN issue.

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

The best way to stop Shamnesty

16 posted on 06/13/2007 12:44:11 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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Welcome to Idiot World:

"harsher penalties for immigrants who overstay their visas or re-enter the country illegally"

Hmmmm... would someone tell Strata and Graham that "immigrants" can't overstay their visas, because, well, they're immigrants. They also are authorized to leave and re-enter the country within certain parameters, again because they're immigrants.

"If you had mandatory jail time" for such offenses, Graham said, "I think it would create a deterrent."

OK, Linds. But consider this: "immigrants" can't overstay their visas, because they've been appoved to be here and to... immigrate! The 15 million Amnesty visas (Z visas) you're about to hand out are also permanent, so no overstayers there, either. They also get exit and re-entry privileges.

So I predict the actual target of these "harsher penalties" and "jail time" will be Australian kids on holiday, grandmas visiting their naturalized sons and daughters, and Candadian and Brit K1 fiancee applicants wishing to see their honeys while under ajudication (while their application is being processed, which is an immigration offense equivalent to illegal entry).

"Another possible amendment, he said, would prohibit employers from participating in a new temporary worker program if they repeatedly break the law by hiring illegal workers."

Hey Strata! Listen up!

The Z visa is intended almost exclusively to Amnesty and legalize the 15 million or more illegal aliens now here. Upon George Bush's signature they become instantly legal, including work autorization. Hence, employers will no longer have any "illegal workers" in their employ.

This is the best "horse out of the barn" proposal that we've seen in this years's debate.

18 posted on 06/13/2007 12:46:37 PM PDT by angkor
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Anyone who believes that new measures will truly address the security concerns needs to read the article published by a pro-American Mexican named Fredo Arias-King. He worked with the Fox team in the elections of 1999. In private meetings with U.S legislators he was privy to their real attitudes toward immigration and their white constituencies. He published his observations online HERE. A couple gems from the article:
Some legislators had also mentioned to us (oftentimes laughing) how they had "defanged" or "gutted" anti-immigration bills and measures, by neglecting to fund this program or tabling that provision, or deleting the other measure, etc. "Yes, we passed that law, but it can’t work because we also…" was a usual comment to assuage the Mexican delegations.
While I can recall many accolades for the Mexican immigrants and for Mexican-Americans (one white congressman even gave me a "high five" when recalling that Californian Hispanics were headed for majority status), I remember few instances when a legislator spoke well of his or her white constituents. One even called them "rednecks," and apologized to us on their behalf for their incorrect attitude on immigration. Most of them seemed to advocate changing the ethnic composition of the United States as an end in itself.
...One leading Republican senator over a period of months was advising us, through a mutual acquaintance, about which mechanisms to follow and which other legislators to lobby in order to ensure passage of the amnesty proposal. In the meantime, he would speak on television about the need to "militarize" the border. This senator was recently singled out by a taxpayer’s advocacy group as a leader in "pork"-related politics...
As Arias-King points out, these attitudes are widespread in BOTH parties.

So they will promise us the moon regarding enforcement provisions because they know they will never have to deliver.

The article is called, "Immigration and Usurpation: Elites, Power, and the People’s Will." It's a bit long, but a must read. There was also an FR thread about the article a couple weeks ago HERE. I'm suprised talk radio hasn't mentioned the article explicitly because it's written by a pro-American insider who knows the Machiavellism of our leaders first hand.

19 posted on 06/13/2007 12:49:27 PM PDT by ishmac
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"Negotiators also were considering harsher penalties for immigrants who overstay their visas or re-enter the country illegally, according to Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.

“If you had mandatory jail time” for such offenses, Graham said, “I think it would create a deterrent.”

Another possible amendment, he said, would prohibit employers from participating in a new temporary worker program if they repeatedly break the law by hiring illegal workers.

Read: This is so much bull sh** because we will NEVER enforce anything anyway, so what's the problem with making false "threats to enforce tough measures." Ha ha ha!

20 posted on 06/13/2007 12:51:10 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To A. J. Strata:

Nice smear job with that broad brush. You are much too enamored of yourself as well as calling names of others and then acting too offended at what they say.

What’s wrong with protecting American sovereignty? Answer that honestly and you will know your own failings.


21 posted on 06/13/2007 12:56:15 PM PDT by sauropod ("An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools." Ernest Hemingway)
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Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez also said, “current immigration laws are too weak.”

(especially if they’re not being enforced)


22 posted on 06/13/2007 12:57:46 PM PDT by wolfcreek (AMNESTY: See what BROWN can do for you..)
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ping


24 posted on 06/13/2007 1:01:31 PM PDT by gubamyster
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And people wonder why I am so happy to distance myself from these ‘people’?

If your use of slurs such as "hypochondriacs" is any indication, please, distance your sorry ass even further from us so we don't have to deal with your apologist stench.

26 posted on 06/13/2007 1:13:50 PM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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Negotiators also were considering harsher penalties for immigrants who overstay their visas or re-enter the country illegally, according to Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.

“If you had mandatory jail time” for such offenses, Graham said, “I think it would create a deterrent.”

Propose a fantasy that one Federal judge can toss and see if anybody is dumb enough to pretend to believe it.

27 posted on 06/13/2007 1:38:51 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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