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Bush in U-turn on global warming
FT.com ^ | 6/1/07 | Financial Times

Posted on 06/01/2007 5:31:01 AM PDT by Mark Felton

George W. Bush on Thursday unveiled a striking about-face on global warming, calling on the world’s leading economies to join the US in agreeing a global target to reduce carbon dioxide emissions before the end of his term in office.

The US president was speaking just ahead of a G8 summit at which climate change was expected to be high on the agenda of European governments. He explained that his apparent conversion – which follows almost seven years of having rejected precisely the road he outlined – was prompted by new scientific findings.

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To: tioga

Sad but true.

Next he’ll be telling us we need a tax increase. I used to be very fond of this president. He’s really let me down of late.


62 posted on 06/01/2007 8:15:18 AM PDT by Vanbasten
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To: RetSignman

LOL. There is nothing this President can do now that would cause me to eat my words...nothing! I am judging him by what he has already done.

I may applaud him for future actions, but i could never vote for a Republican again until there has been an internal revolution in the party or the party has collapsed.

We do not have a right and left party, which is the proper natural break for parties when they do not conspire to hold mutually shared power.

Their program for over 40 years has been to share power and engage in public politics that keeps the public properly polarized and split between the 2 of them while both advanc the same agenda (with minor perturbations for show)

The Americn political party system is simply akin to a Harlem Globetrotters game. The elections are only about who gets to be the HG’s versus the other team.

The power split never gets far from 50/50, that is why the President went liberal when the Congress was Republican dominated. That is why neither party goes for the throat to cause the colla;pse of their friendly opponents.

Serious damage to either party destbilzies politics and threatens both parties because it allows for the uprise of a viable 3rd party when either gets too damaged.

I know this stuff. I’ve been in it. i’ve seen it firsthand. I’ve managed congressional campaigns. I’m a student history.


63 posted on 06/01/2007 8:20:35 AM PDT by Mark Felton ("Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom...though it cost all you have get understanding" - Prov. 4)
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To: SouthTexas
We are all going to fry now because we rejected amnesty.

LOL ... Apparently sending Tony Snow out to call me a bigot wasn't enough.

64 posted on 06/01/2007 8:38:51 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: bw17

I agree with you about this post. This move is likely to be scuttled almost immediately by most nations in the world.

In addition, it is very unlikely to lead to a huge push for solar and wind and ethanol, etc.

We’ll see...


65 posted on 06/01/2007 8:43:04 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Mark Felton
It is a huge concern! Freepers must know about this.

It is a concern. We do need to know, and we are in possession of a dozen current threads already. This is not a U-turn. It is more mathematical: a change of basis.

66 posted on 06/01/2007 8:46:55 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: iopscusa; betsyross1776

betsyross1776 is right about this. Sorry. You’re wrong.

If it weren’t for the increased Congressional strength of the Demodogs, there would not be sufficient RINOs to get through the filibuster/ cloture rules. This was predicted by everyone who has any EDUCATED concept of the Senate and how the federal government works. You can’t simply wish away the RINOs of the NorthEast... that’s what they are, and nobody more conservative than Snowe or Collins (for example, or Guilliani on another note) is going to be elected for the forseeable future there. That is the best the Republican party can do in the NE - at least those two vote with the conservatives sometimes, unlike any Demodog. The defeat of other more conservative Republicans strengthened the RINOs and the liberal Demodogs. That being said, I greatly favor throwing support to ALL the conservative Republicans, and completely spurning those who are not, including the national GOP fund-raisers.

You may as well throw up now. Stop “want”ing to do it. You’re going to hear this, honestly, from now until the earth goes dark. This is exactly what the “punish the Republicans” crowd has wrought. We said it before the election. Now we simply say, “we told you so”.

The truth often hurts.

Go now, and hit the head before it’s too late.


67 posted on 06/01/2007 8:59:18 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Vanbasten

He’s done with his base, we elected him TWICE and now he can throw us over for a few cheap thrills with teddytheswimmer and co.


68 posted on 06/01/2007 9:01:32 AM PDT by tioga (Fred Thompson for President.)
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To: SouthTexas

“We are all going to fry now because we rejected amnesty.”

No, it’s just that the latest requirement for amnesty will be bringing a bag of ice with you across the desert....!!!


69 posted on 06/01/2007 9:01:56 AM PDT by JB in Whitefish
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To: SittinYonder; JB in Whitefish

I really wonder if this new awareness of global warming is the result of all the heat given off by hostile conservatives on amnesty?


70 posted on 06/01/2007 9:46:40 AM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: Mark Felton

That’s it - first it’s amnesty, and now he’s jumping on the Global Warming bandwagon; time to take the “Bush Cheney 04” bumper sticker off my car.


71 posted on 06/01/2007 10:43:43 AM PDT by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
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To: RightWhale

“It is more mathematical: a change of basis.”

When we finally pin down his position we realize we never knew his true values in the first place.

del(position)del(values) >= C/2 C: reduced fundraising constant; $$ raised per election cycle divided by opponents $$ in bank (or something like that)

Politicians are also complex. With the media as observers their imaginary values are measured while their real values are ignored.


72 posted on 06/01/2007 11:57:52 AM PDT by Mark Felton ("Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom...though it cost all you have get understanding" - Prov. 4)
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To: bw17
You have “misunderestimated” this President once again.

Just wondering... Did you get an extra large helping of kool-aid this morning? 

73 posted on 06/01/2007 12:31:50 PM PDT by zeugma (MS Vista has detected your mouse has moved, Cancel or Allow?)
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To: Pit1

With what guys like Rudy! What happens when you are cleaning out the nest? I notice you only mentioned the reps,you are not demo underground are you now?


74 posted on 06/01/2007 12:44:49 PM PDT by betsyross1776 (i)
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To: Mark Felton
That's right. Bilderburgers are meeting now and G8 is coming up, so GATT2007 is where the equations intersect.
75 posted on 06/01/2007 1:10:36 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: betsyross1776
Whose fault is this nobody but the ones who sat home on election day.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your rant - that moderate swing voters, not stay-at-home conservatives, were the key factor in the GOP loss in 2006.

When did pubbies suddenly no longer become responsible for their own failings? What color is the Kool-Aide in your glass?

76 posted on 06/01/2007 1:14:20 PM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: bw17

You’re right, it won’t be grasped by most people who will instead believe all the lies Gore and the left have been spewing for the last 7 years — heck, even BUSH believes it now so it must be the truth...

The media will never expose the hypocrisy, and our President, using his bully pulpit made the left’s lunacy legitimate with this ‘stunt’ if that is indeed what it is...

It is never good to play these kinds of games. We need statesmen who tell the truth.


77 posted on 06/02/2007 1:12:02 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (Liberty Rocks Blog: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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To: dirtboy
Now it is fashionable in here to hate Bush. I am not ranting , you can’t take a person who does not walk in lock step and think the way a lot of you do. I happen to hate to look at harry Reid and Nancy in charge.The fact of the matter is and I am an election officer in my district , the reps stayed home. I am going by the books , if you cannot take responsibility for it too bad, fact is according to records it is a fifty country. if more then one party stays home on election day or votes for the other side the other side wins. Maybe you should work the polls like I do. Then you will learn something.
78 posted on 06/02/2007 7:32:02 AM PDT by betsyross1776 (i)
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To: dirtboy
Oh one more thing. In third grade we learned the phrase," Bad politicians are elected by good citizens who don’t vote." I voted and I did not put them there. The people who stayed home did.
79 posted on 06/02/2007 7:34:47 AM PDT by betsyross1776 (i)
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To: TomGuy
You don’t vote for the same and hope to get a different result. It ain’t gonna happen.

Well, fine. Next time you try drosophila melanogaster; then maybe Alpha Centari; and then a plasmodium.

80 posted on 06/04/2007 4:41:00 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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