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DUNCAN HUNTER Champion of Property Rights and Real Free Trade!
TheTownCrier ^ | Mar. 5, 2007 | TheTownCrier

Posted on 03/05/2007 8:24:25 AM PST by AuntB

Those of us who have been involved in property rights battles appreciated Helen Chenoweth-Hage. What a great loss to all of us due to her untimely fatal accident last year. Talk about your dream ticket for the presidential race.

A poster from Idaho, Helen's home state, on a polictical forum states:

"We are very particular about our conservatives.We like principles and backbone. We elected Helen Chenoweth/Hage and Bill Sali. Helen loved Duncan Hunter and spoke of him often, that is why I loved him before he ever decided to run."

Helen and Duncan had a great appreciation for each other and accomplished much while they were both in congress, especially protecting private property rights.

It was announced this week that the Mt. Soledad Cross, which the ACLU sued to have removed, will in fact remain per the Supreme Court, largely due to the actions of Duncan Hunter.

In a field hearing held by COMMITTEE ON RESOURCES on the Endangered Species act in 1999 in Hemmet, California, Chenoweth and Hunter were in the forefront to protect the average American citizen property owner. They questioned, with little mercy, the bureaucrats who through archaic regulations and unnecessary paperwork were thwarting use of private land by it's legitimate owners. Hunter's comments speak for themselves.

Mr. HUNTER: I think that shows some of the misguided policies, and, Mr. Chairman, I think this falls on our back as well as those of the Administrators. In this effort that is to protect the environment and the perversion that I think we have made of some of the regulations, we have actually damaged the environment. We have massive traffic jams that are a result of people not being able to afford homes in the areas where they work. One reason they cannot afford homes is because we are protecting their environment in the communities where they work. So we have them put out tons of smog on the freeway to get 60 miles away where they can afford a home. So I think that working America has a real stake in seeing to it that we pull back regulation, make it more reasonable and make it more applicable to folks like the gentleman who was in here, Mr. Turecek. I do not know if you saw him, but average people that have pieces of land that they want to develop, to give them a fighting chance at it. Mr. Kading, I appreciate all of the witnesses, but I especially appreciate you being here and laying out the perspective of a working man."

Recently, Hunter has stated this concerning property rights and the Kelo property rights/eminent domain decision by the Supreme Court:

"I am deeply concerned with the Supreme Court’s 5-4 decision greatly broadening local government’s use of eminent domain in Kelo vs. New London and believe it is important that Congress protect the property rights of private landowners and curb the government from excessive regulatory takings. It is for this reason that I voted in favor of expressing the grave disapproval of the House of Representatives regarding the majority opinion in the Kelo case.

Additionally, I cosponsored H.R. 3268 , the Eminent Domain Tax Relief Act of 2005, which abolished the capital gains tax on private property taken by the government through eminent domain. I also voted in favor of a legislative amendment offered to H.R. 3058, the FY2006 Transportation, Treasury, Housing and Urban Development, the Judiciary, the District of Columbia, and Independent Agencies Appropriations Act, prohibiting federal funding from being used to improve or construct infrastructure support on lands acquired through the use of eminent domain of private property for private development."

Hunter was awarded the American Farm Bureau Federation Friend of Farm Bureau award for the 105th Congress. The "Friend of Farm Bureau" is given each session of Congress to those members of Congress who were nominated by their respective state Farm Bureau and approved by the American Farm Bureau Federation Board of Directors.

Helen and Duncan worked on other projects such as controlling trade agreements like Nafta and getting out of the World Trade Organization.

Afta NAFTA - "GOP sponsors of the NAFTA Accountability Act in the 104th Congress included such high-profile conservatives as Duncan Hunter, Zach Wamp, Helen Chenoweth, and Gerald Solomon. In a speech before Congress on March 12, 1996, Hunter claimed that between one and five million jobs had been lost to corporate downsizing over the past three years. "We seem to be giving our own country away" through NAFTA, GATT, the World Bank, and foreign adventurism, he said: "billions and billions to other countries while our own people head for the unemployment office or have to settle for jobs in fast-food restaurants."

From March 27, 2000: Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) has managed to win seven co-sponsors so far for a resolution that he introduced earlier this month calling on the United States to withdraw from the World Trade Organization. Responding to the congressman's call to co-sponsor the measure, issued in a letter March 10, have been Reps. Helen Chenoweth (R-Idaho), Duncan L. Hunter (R-Calif.)........

This morning we read an article about Diane Alden, who has been an important journalist in the property rights battle and conservatism in general.

The bio on Adlen states, " Diane's heroes include Ronald Reagan, Pope John Paul II, Joan of Arc, St. Padre Pio, Lou Dobbs, the Minutemen, Phyllis Schlafly, Helen Chenoweth-Hage, Barbara Cubin, George Putnam, Marc Bernier, Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, Jeff Sessions, Mark Kirkorian, Frank Gaffney, Steve Farrell, Peter Brimelow, William Hawkins, her dad Neil Alden, as well as the unsung heroes who have blogged and supported real conservatism and American interests as opposed to the partisan or corporate variety. Most particularly her heroes include the men and women of the Armed Forces of the United States who lay it on the line every single day." [snip]


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To: RockinRight

>We’ve had a more stabilized and faster growing economy without one.<

AND more inflationary! When we were on the actual gold standard, THAT economy WAS stabilized. A dollar note based on gold was worth a dollar, and you would be amazed at what it bought! Today that dollar might be worth about 7 Cents! Yes, might.


281 posted on 11/03/2007 5:16:51 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Paperdoll
When we were on the actual gold standard, THAT economy WAS stabilized.

No panics, recessions or depressions while we were on the gold standard?

A dollar note based on gold was worth a dollar

No inflation or deflation while we were on the gold standard?

282 posted on 11/03/2007 5:21:29 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Paperdoll

*snicker*

Some forget history...or never knew it.


283 posted on 11/03/2007 8:09:42 PM PDT by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: RockinRight

>*Snicker*<

Some forget history...or never knew it.<

Snicker? Well, that’s a nice way to begin a response. And there you go again being snide. How old are you, and how much education have you been able to accumulate? Some people don’t bother with manners, I notice.


284 posted on 11/03/2007 8:43:37 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Paperdoll

I’m 30 years old. I however, also know that there were panics about every 20 years during the 1800s - with the gold standard.


285 posted on 11/03/2007 9:02:36 PM PDT by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: Paperdoll

Now wouldn’t using a term like “Toddler” be snide in and of itself, Ma’am?


286 posted on 11/03/2007 9:05:00 PM PDT by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Because the mind control units installed by the CFR/NAU/Build-a-burger/Illuminati/Masons/Trilats/Britney Spears Fanclub/Alien Abduction Victims coalition told them to.

;-)


287 posted on 11/03/2007 9:06:47 PM PDT by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: RockinRight; Paperdoll

Business Cycle Expansions and Contractions


US Business Cycle Expansions and Contractions ¹

Contractions (recessions) start at the peak of a business cycle and end at the trough.
Please also see:
BUSINESS CYCLE
REFERENCE DATES
DURATION IN MONTHS
Peak Trough Contraction Expansion Cycle
Quarterly dates
are in parentheses
Peak
to
Trough
Previous trough
to
this peak
Trough from
Previous
Trough
Peak from
Previous
Peak

June 1857(II)
October 1860(III)
April 1865(I)
June 1869(II)
October 1873(III)

March 1882(I)
March 1887(II)
July 1890(III)
January 1893(I)
December 1895(IV)

June 1899(III)
September 1902(IV)
May 1907(II)
January 1910(I)
January 1913(I)

August 1918(III)
January 1920(I)
May 1923(II)
October 1926(III)
August 1929(III)

May 1937(II)
February 1945(I)
November 1948(IV)
July 1953(II)
August 1957(III)

April 1960(II)
December 1969(IV)
November 1973(IV)
January 1980(I)
July 1981(III)

July 1990(III)
March 2001(I)
December 1854 (IV)
December 1858 (IV)
June 1861 (III)
December 1867 (I)
December 1870 (IV)
March 1879 (I)

May 1885 (II)
April 1888 (I)
May 1891 (II)
June 1894 (II)
June 1897 (II)

December 1900 (IV)
August 1904 (III)
June 1908 (II)
January 1912 (IV)
December 1914 (IV)

March 1919 (I)
July 1921 (III)
July 1924 (III)
November 1927 (IV)
March 1933 (I)

June 1938 (II)
October 1945 (IV)
October 1949 (IV)
May 1954 (II)
April 1958 (II)

February 1961 (I)
November 1970 (IV)
March 1975 (I)
July 1980 (III)
November 1982 (IV)

March 1991(I)
November 2001 (IV)
--
18
8
32
18
65

38
13
10
17
18

18
23
13
24
23

7
18
14
13
43

13
8
11
10
8

10
11
16
6
16

8
8

--
30
22
46
18
34

36
22
27
20
18

24
21
33
19
12

44
10
22
27
21

50
80
37
45
39

24
106
36
58
12

92
120
--
48
30
78
36
99

74
35
37
37
36

42
44
46
43
35

51
28
36
40
64

63
88
48
55
47

34
117
52
64
28

100
128

--
--
40
54
50
52

101
60
40
30
35

42
39
56
32
36

67
17
40
41
34

93
93
45
56
49

32
116
47
74
18

108
128

Average, all cycles:
1854-2001 (32 cycles)
1854-1919 (16 cycles)
1919-1945 (6 cycles)
1945-2001 (10 cycles)
 
17
22
18
10
 
38
27
35
57
 
55
48
53
67
 
56*
  49**
53
67
* 31 cycles
** 15 cycles

Source: NBER


The determination that the last contraction ended in November 2001 is the most recent decision of the Business Cycle Dating Committee of the National Bureau of Economic Research.

Announcement dates: The November 2001 trough was announced July 17, 2003.
The March 2001 peak was announced November 26, 2001.
The March 1991 trough was announced December 22, 1992.
The July 1990 peak was announced April 25, 1991.
The November 1982 trough was announced July 8, 1983.
The July 1981 peak was announced January 6, 1982.
The July 1980 trough was announced July 8, 1981.
The January 1980 peak was announced June 3, 1980.

Other Related Press Releases:December 21, 1990
December 31, 1979
October 25, 1979
July 27, 1979


The NBER does not define a recession in terms of two consecutive quarters of decline in real GDP. Rather, a recession is a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in real GDP, real income, employment, industrial production, and wholesale-retail sales. For more information, see the latest announcement on how the NBER's Business Cycle Dating Committee chooses turning points in the Economy and its latest memo, dated 07/17/03.

Source:

    Public Information Office
    National Bureau of Economic Research, Inc.
    1050 Massachusetts Avenue
    Cambridge MA 02138
    USA

    617-868-3900

Permission to copy is granted, provided credit is given

That was some stable economy during the gold standard. LOL!


288 posted on 11/04/2007 7:38:15 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Hey Toddler! Gotto get to church soon, but will read when I get back.


289 posted on 11/04/2007 7:49:18 AM PST by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Now what does this table show me ?

More cycles in ancient times ?

Does this prove that the economy in ancient times was much smaller - based on less people - less value - less tricky statistics ?

Or does this proove the gold standard didn’t work out ?

I guess it’s much to shallow for both.

It still seems the fed is caught between saving the big banks.

We’d have more stability either by more disciplined senators (they influence(d) the fed) or by a fool proof monetary system.

I can only imagine coupling it to gold - or maybe to plutonium.


290 posted on 11/05/2007 9:03:00 AM PST by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: Rummenigge
Now what does this table show me ?

Business Cycle Expansions and Contractions

More cycles in ancient times ?

More down cycles. Longer down cycles.

Does this prove that the economy in ancient times was much smaller

No. But it was.

Or does this proove the gold standard didn’t work out ?

It shows the poster who claimed the gold standard kept the economy "stable" was incorrect.

291 posted on 11/05/2007 9:08:34 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

That logic is a bit too high for me - would you say water is not good for extinguishing fire because you saw they threw it on cali but it did not work ?

A gold standard would help - but if the Taliban get to rule in Pakistan we got a nulcear war at hand - that would be bad for economy - even if the money standard was on my sexual health.

Doesn’t mean gold doesn’t work as a standard.


292 posted on 11/05/2007 9:30:40 AM PST by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: Rummenigge

sorry - I meant nucular ;-)


293 posted on 11/05/2007 9:32:54 AM PST by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: Rummenigge
That logic is a bit too high for me -

What are you talking about? Be specific.

A gold standard would help

Would help what?

Doesn’t mean gold doesn’t work as a standard.

Gold may have done many things. Keeping the economy "stable" wasn't one of them.

294 posted on 11/05/2007 9:34:51 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Lol talking to you is pointless. You are very eager to be right and you do so by avoiding to say something meaningfull.


295 posted on 11/06/2007 1:25:18 AM PST by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: Rummenigge
You are very eager to be right and you do so by avoiding to say something meaningfull.

You said something stupid and now you run away. LOL!

296 posted on 11/06/2007 5:55:46 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

That’s what people do if their communication partners refuse to read or hear what people say and only answer in phrases that leave anyone pussled if they even belong to the same thread.

Saying something stupid happens to people who actually say something - an then there’s you :)


297 posted on 11/06/2007 6:39:21 AM PST by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: Rummenigge
Keep avoiding the points in post #294.
298 posted on 11/06/2007 6:41:59 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I don’t even know why you send that posting -

I told you, your argumentation had a logical flaw and you answered with repeating the resume of it. (Wich is hardly a sane thing to do - nor does it show good math skills)


299 posted on 11/06/2007 6:45:08 AM PST by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: Rummenigge
I told you, your argumentation had a logical flaw

Just because you said so, doesn't make you right.

Do you think the gold standard gave us a "stable" economy?

300 posted on 11/06/2007 7:01:30 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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