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What Should We Call Free Republic Liberals
Free Republic | 2/25/07 | Wagglebee

Posted on 02/25/2007 2:46:59 PM PST by wagglebee

We all know about "limosine liberals" and "San Francisco liberals" and "east coast liberals" and "Hollywood liberals" and we all say we are against them. So, why is it that we seem to have a new breed of liberalism that is festering on a conservative forum?

By my calculations it is a small number (only about 15%) of FReepers that seem to be supporting a pro-abortion, pro-homosexual marriage, thrice-married (once to his cousing) gun-grabber for the office of President of the United States of America. And I'll be the first to admit that many of them are supporting Giuliani because they think he is the only Republican who can win. However, what about those FReepers who seem totally comfortable with Rudy's liberalism? In her book Treason, Ann Coulter describes in detail how communists infiltrated the Democrat Party and my fear is that decades from now, someone will describe how liberals infiltrated and destroyed conservativism in the name of pragmatism.

We all know that there are liberals here and I'm pretty certain that they aren't going anywhere. As a conservative, I know that conservativism consists of a belief in a strong national defense, fiscal conservativism and social conservativism, so to call these FReepers conservatives in name only (CINOs) would be incorrect because many of these FReepers don't even claim to be social conservatives. So, my question is this:
WHAT SHOULD WE CALL FREE REPUBLIC LIBERALS?


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: antitheocraticcons; freepers; frino; liberals; rudyites; schiavo
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To: Chi-townChief
Buchananites.

You lose me there Chief. Pat Buchanan may have turned in his Republican Party membership in disgust, but that's because he IS a Conservative.

61 posted on 02/25/2007 3:59:21 PM PST by Barnacle (Because Oprah said so... That's why.)
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To: wagglebee

"wagglebee"?


62 posted on 02/25/2007 4:00:30 PM PST by dakine
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To: wagglebee

I would offer up a contraction of the words "blind" and "freepers," one which conveys those deep passions which sometimes find their expression in expletives, while still exercising a certain amount of restraint...

























Bleepers.


63 posted on 02/25/2007 4:01:25 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: stockstrader

OK, let's come at it this way. What is the meaning of conservative?


64 posted on 02/25/2007 4:01:38 PM PST by GB
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To: RedRover
Great. Just what this forum needs. More name calling.

The dude claims to be a Christian, too.

65 posted on 02/25/2007 4:03:33 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: GB
You ARE kidding right?

If you even had to ask that question--then you DESERVE RUDY!!...LOL

P.S. Please 'look it up'...lol

66 posted on 02/25/2007 4:04:08 PM PST by stockstrader ("Where government advances--and it advances relentlessly--freedom is imperiled"-Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: wagglebee
How 'bout the DU Liberals? They used to be underground but they came out of the closet. LOL!
67 posted on 02/25/2007 4:04:44 PM PST by NRA2BFree (Duncan Hunter for President '08 - A genuine "Reagan Republican" for America!)
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To: stockstrader
They have already come up with the new names for themselves.
"Common-sense conservatives"

"Pragmatic conservatives"

"Realistic conservatives".

As I expect you would agree, genuine Conservatism requires no qualifiers. Conservatism is Conservatism, plain and simple.

I have little interest in variations on the theme.

68 posted on 02/25/2007 4:05:04 PM PST by Barnacle (Because Oprah said so... That's why.)
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To: digger48
FRINO

LOL! I like it. It's catchy. ;o)

69 posted on 02/25/2007 4:05:48 PM PST by NRA2BFree (Duncan Hunter for President '08 - A genuine "Reagan Republican" for America!)
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To: sit-rep
"Ah what the hay... We all have our times of "not niceness"!!


70 posted on 02/25/2007 4:06:18 PM PST by labette ("Come,and let us reason together...")
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To: wagglebee
We've got a little problem here. All of the candidates running with a realistic chance of gaining the nomination are disparaged as RINO's on FR. The candidates who are not RINO's have incredible odds against them. At Intrade , the percent probability of winning the GOP nomination is traded in a market. The market doesn't believe anyone but a RINO has a chance (Disagree with the market? Pony up and make a fortune).

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So, those who wish to discuss the relative merits of candidates who actually have a chance are to be pilloried here with some concocted epithet, so you can be free to discuss the relative merits of candidates of the candidates with odds of 200-1 and 1000-1 respectively?

I've figured that at FR we generally agree with Patrick Henry that we don't ...acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot. I thought that the best way for us to defeat the Dems/Libs was to deal with political reality, even if reality was unpalatable and unpleasant.

Here's a compromise. If you want to freep without having to see realistic candidates discussed, maybe FR can set up a special board (like the Smokey Backroom) called Freeputopia where only rah rah posts are allowed about 100% conservative candidates. Would that work for you?

71 posted on 02/25/2007 4:06:28 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Barnacle; GB

Thank you. Apparently some on here need the definition 'explained' to them.


72 posted on 02/25/2007 4:06:30 PM PST by stockstrader ("Where government advances--and it advances relentlessly--freedom is imperiled"-Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: wagglebee

I am suprised you could take a break from your bible long enough to make this post.


73 posted on 02/25/2007 4:08:12 PM PST by jern
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To: sit-rep
Ah what the hay... We all have our times of "not niceness"!!

My big sis used to say, "I'm nice 'til I'm not!"

It was true, too! ;-)

74 posted on 02/25/2007 4:08:51 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: stockstrader

Oh, I can look it up in Webster's and give you the dictionary definition. I know what my definition is. It just seems like there are a whole bunch of other definitions out there, and woe be unto anyone who might question any of them.


75 posted on 02/25/2007 4:09:03 PM PST by GB
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To: Argus
You may call that being a CINO. I call it realistic.

No can do. CINO is already taken. It's a "Christian in Name Only." ;o)

76 posted on 02/25/2007 4:10:15 PM PST by NRA2BFree (Duncan Hunter for President '08 - A genuine "Reagan Republican" for America!)
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To: flashbunny

Rofl...I love it when they throw up that "ultra-conservatives (social conservatives, religious right, etc) are destroying the GOP" canard.

The GOP has been purging conservatives since 1996 by backing more "moderate" candidates and giving more power and money to the Snowe-Chaffee-Collins types and where did that get them?

Back in the minority where, let's be frank, they like it.


77 posted on 02/25/2007 4:10:35 PM PST by Fledermaus (The GOP dumped conservatism. And they wonder why they lost Congress?)
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To: wagglebee

No matter the forum, the people or the topic of conversation, as sure as you're born, there's always one side calling the other "Kool-Aid Drinkers".

As a rule, it's always better to be the one called it than the one who uses it. Since using it is the ultimate sign of an insipid, intellectually lazy person. They're right up there with people who use "tin-foil" and "conspiracy theory" regularly.

These are the buzz-phrases of sheep.


78 posted on 02/25/2007 4:18:17 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("and alllll the children are insane")
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To: Plutarch
The election is TWENTY months away, the first primary is TEN months away, let's look at a list of other "front runners" prior to the primaries:

1976 Democrat - Mo Udall and Scoop Jackson
1980 Republican - George HW Bush and Jack Anderson
1984 Democrat - Gary Hart
1988 Democrat - Gary Hart
1992 Democrat - Paul Tsongas

Guess what? NONE OF THEM WERE NOMINATED.

79 posted on 02/25/2007 4:19:08 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Because my primary interest is the kind of judges a President will nominate to the Supreme Court and other federal courts, I would have no trouble with that choice.

Rudy thinks Ruth Bader Ginsburg was a good Supreme Court choice.

80 posted on 02/25/2007 4:27:02 PM PST by Mojave
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