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(Vanity) Evolution the Lie
Creationist

Posted on 02/18/2007 11:15:33 AM PST by Creationist

The Theory of Evolution is a wound upon society inflicted by proclaimed erudite men. This festering wound is easily transmitted. It is spread into almost every thing children read at public school; fictional books, geography, biology ECT. ECT.. It is portrayed by Hollywood This travesty is supported by our tax dollars and is never corrected when proved wrong, it is destroying our society with its Godless belief. It will be said that they can not afford new book, well just rip out the pages that are incorrect or mark them out with a permanent marker.

This hypothesis has been proved incorrect at every turn. Even the author of the revolution or “god to the hardened believer, Darwin, had doubts in his belief. Darwin expected the future to find factual evidence in support of this miraculous idea. Over 150 years later still no proof. Why in fact there is more evidence to the contrary discovered by scientist who do not accept Jesus. The mountain of evidence against the theory is so compelling, yet those who can not or will not except a Supernatural power as the Creator of it all continue to make up hypothesis’s that require supernatural power to make it happen.

Evolution can not happen, changing from one species to another. They will show “microevolution,” really adaptation or variation as evidence. This is not so because there is not a new species, they are still roses, horses, dogs, cats, corn, ECT. ECT.. What are the supposed mechanisms of evolution; mutations and natural selection. Well natural selection can not do it and it should really be called random selection. Natural selection only selects at random, it takes intelligence to select a particular one. Random acts would almost never pick the exact correct sequence. Mathematicians will tell you random selection is chaotic and would never create intelligent organization. Mutations can not do it. Mutation are 99.9% harmful to the organism. What does not kill it or make it sterile makes it weaker and less likely to survive. If by chance it does, the DNA stasis will act upon the organism and if it has offspring they will revert back to the original within a generation or two.

The only way is for the “Hopeful Monsters” that Goldschmidt dreamt up. Millions of mutations happening at once about every 50,000 years, beneficial, happening to 2 males and 2 females in a close proximity each pair giving birth to the exact same kind of new species one male and one female. What that means folks is one breeding pair of lizards gave birth to a male chicken and within a mile or less another breeding pair of lizards gave birth to a female chicken, both with the right organs to breed and continue the new species. Whew! if that is not a faith based belief then what is. When is the next 50,000 years up?

Though the theory in general does not claim origins but it is in text books, Chemical evolution. Chemical evolution is a proposed process which does not exist today ( therefore it is not science and is a religious belief ) in which a reducing atmosphere ( no evidence in the rocks for this ) existed and rain fell upon rocks and created a chemical soup in our oceans. Lighting struck a puddle and life appeared with all the complexity of DNA and RNA installed. Stanley Miller performed an experiment in a controlled environment in which he created simple amino acids both D and L (left and right handed). Every type of amino acid in animals is left handed, no animal or man could live with right handed (D) in them. Every time amino acids are synthesized in a laboratory they create equal amount of left and right. If it can not be done in a controlled atmosphere with billions of dollars, how can random actions ever be expected to do it.

Evidence for evolution is just not there. The fossil record shows no evidence of transitional forms. There is nothing in the Precambrian that supports lower life forms evolving into the Cambrian Explosion. Evolutionist can not explain why there is a explosion of complex organisms in the Cambrian layer. This layer of evidence is condescending to their theory and they do not wish to acknowledge it as so. The slow processes of today could not create the sedimentary rock layers we see in the geology. The fossil layers the coal fields the sedimentary rock are all best explained by the global flood of Noah’s time.

Evolution has no proof, only conjecture believed by millions. Excepted by these millions because they are told by the government funded educated people of self proclaimed expertise. As the Bible says and how the Super rich and high up government official believe we are sheep, cattle to the latter, following believing expecting our leaders to tell us and teach us the truth. This is not going to happen, there is an agenda to this theory, it is to undermine God’s authority and to make people believe they are nothing more than animals. You teach then they are animals and they will act like them just look at how much the world has changed in the past 70 or so years due to the mandated teaching of this godless theory.

Every day more is discovered and science tries to explain it with their complex naturalistic ideals that defy the laws of nature and physics. When the answer is so simple God whose name is Jesus Created it all in six literal 24 hour days, and he did not use evolution anywhere in his process.


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To: TKDietz

No but there is evidence that our galaxiy is the center of the universe!


261 posted on 02/19/2007 3:29:45 PM PST by Wakeup Sleeper
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To: Pox

Oh you are so conveinantly leaving things out my friend!

First of all why did Christianity start thriving everywhere at the very time of Christ? Nowhere in history has it been shown that people would die for a lie, (martyrs) People will die for what they think is truth but they dont die for what they know is a lie! If Christ had not risen from the dead as was reported, during this time, it would not have grown and people would not have spent their lives in and death for it! This is crucial for you to understand! Also it realy isnt that bizzarre to believe, the very fact that we are here in a perfect environment constantly striving over the moral, is a magnificent thing! The very fact that we are living beings is tremendous in its concept! along with all the other realms of our world around us, even the moon the sun food that just happens to taste good? air that we just happen to need and just happen to have! and on and on and on! It says in the bible that this life is our trial, all other propagations of religions their founders bones are still in their graves, but Christs are not found! The very fact that this whole world is bizzarre or supernatural, must be considered! You just dont realise it because it is routine and comfortable, so one does not see it as something as obvious as a miracle that happens in an instant, but if you look at whats around you even your own kiving being, there is no dispute of it supernatural and miraculous existance!

All animals are dumb! compared to us Humans and it says in the bible that we were made in the simalatude of God! And it says that mankind would have dominion over all else, and we do!

There are very major blows to evolution, just to simplify, Satan throughout mankind has brought about all different kinds of things just as evolution, Before it was pagan gods, human sacrifice, and other vile things and today one of these things are evolution.

You cannot add to the genetic code, therefore you cannot go from monkey to man, or any ting else for that matter. it says in Genesis that God created all things and that they will produce after their KIND! thats exactly what we have to day varies in the same genetic gene pool, but not adding to it, they always remain the same KIND! Equine, euroch, etc...etc... There is no fossil record! They find dinosaur bones today with tissue in them blood vessels blood etc...etc... most dinosuars were just the size of sheep! Mutations are ZERO % mathmatical possibility etc...etc...etc... and evolutionists know this already! Many creationists Scientists use to be evolutionists, but they began to realise what a con they were playing on themselves, just the fact that evolutionists are so biased and restrictive of other evidence showing the lies of it shows you the dishonesty among these individuals! Im not here to argue with you but I wish I could friendly help you to see! QWe Christians are sinners too, But we have forgiveness and so can you! Just look at the fact that we are here, thats a wonder in and of itself, so if it happened in an instant you say its fiction but if it happened over time its not fiction then, I dont get it! you cannot get something from nothing! but here we are! This should make you think very seriously, because as I said before it is a frightful thing to fall into the wrath of God!!!! Think and dont be rash my friend!!!! Be honest with yourself, are you trying to cover up sinful behaviour, with your beliefs! not wise friend, I know things can be difficult at times but we must strive for what God wants of us and it can be accomplished! Peace!


262 posted on 02/19/2007 4:02:28 PM PST by Wakeup Sleeper
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To: Oztrich Boy

Sorry ostrich boy but it is historical fact that Thallus existed

Cornelius Tacitus

Pliny the younger

Thallus

Josephus

Lucian the Greek

The Talmud

There are over 47 prophecies mentioning Christ wich all were fulfilled and they know for archeological and historical fact that these writings in the old testament were written before Christ

Tertullian and many more!!!!!!!


263 posted on 02/19/2007 4:31:36 PM PST by Wakeup Sleeper
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To: Wakeup Sleeper

More pointless gibberish that does not constitute proof of anything.

If you have any valid proof to offer, I'm all ears.


264 posted on 02/19/2007 5:14:25 PM PST by Pox (If it's a Coward you are searching for, you need look no further than the Democrats.)
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To: Pox

You will get no sign if thats what your looking for Pox, you have to use wisdom in your deduction and there is plenty to be had, so its up to you! if I was walking on a field and I came across a 747 jumbo jet, what would you conclude? that a wind storm whirled up the elements and formed the 747 jumbo jet? You didnt see anyone make it did you? You dont know by what menas it got there? You dont know how tha windows were placed into position and you didnt see anyone place them there, but what would your common sense tell you? that wind storm did it? or that it was made in an intelligent effort?

You see the people in the bible said the same things as you, show us a sign so that we can believe, but Christ said, you wicked and adulterous generation, you seek after a sign but there will be no sign given except the sign of the prophet Jonah. Your choice Pox! Peace dude!


265 posted on 02/19/2007 6:24:51 PM PST by Wakeup Sleeper
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To: Wakeup Sleeper
Sorry ostrich boy but it is historical fact that Thallus existed

Jacoby and Müller on "Thallus"

There's more evidence that Lemuel Gulliver existed

As for the other pagan writers you cite
Lucian, like Cornelius Tacitus and Pliny the Younger, only says Christians existed in the late first/early second century

The Christians, you know, worship a man to this day — the distinguished personage who introduced their novel rites, and was crucified on that account… You see, these misguided creatures start with the general conviction that they are immortal for all time, which explains the contempt of death and voluntary self-devotion which are so common among them; and then it was impressed on them by their original lawgiver that they are all brothers, from the moment that they are converted, and deny the gods of Greece, and worship the crucified sage, and live after his laws
This does not support your original claim that
Check out the history of historians who had nothing to do with the bible, who lived at the time of Christ who wrote of Christ and His crucifiction and even the darkness that fell on the earth, and even of the disciples,

And for this who came in late, Wakeup Sleeper made that claim to defend


You are in great error my friend there is overwhelming evidence to a global flood every where on the planet! including sea life on the tops of mountains, salt, rock formations, to the mid atlantic ridge and other ridges and on and on and on!

215 posted on 02/18/2007 7:46:12 PM PST by Wakeup Sleeper



266 posted on 02/19/2007 6:31:49 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (History is not Geology)
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To: DaGman

Da Gamm, whats forever mean? Do you not realise there realy isnt any time, stars away are not a time, they are a distance. they are only demed far because of mans inability, but to a God who can do anything this inability does not exist.


267 posted on 02/19/2007 6:33:09 PM PST by Wakeup Sleeper
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To: Oztrich Boy

There are all kinds of disputers Oz boy but it is understood by all historians of crediability that these people were legite and credible historians. There is more historical writings of Christ than any other historical figure in all of history at the time of Christ or before. Thats pretty damming to your assumptions. More than Ceasar, Nero, etc... etc...

Suetonius

The passing peregrinus- wrote of Christ the man who was crucified in Palestine etc...

Flavious Josephus who wrote of Christ who taughtmany and did surprising feats was believed to be the messiah was condemned to be crucified by Pilate and was considered to be resurected.

Tacitus writes of Neros persecution of Christians 55 A.D.

The Talmud--- who wrote of Christ doing miracles but that he did it by scorcery and not by God, (you see they admitted it in the Talmud, but they wouldnt believe it was miraculous)They also said He made Blasphemous claims about himself.

Also there are no other documents written in history that have evidential integrity and accuracy reliability of any document ever written in history ever, this is absolute historical fact. There are over 24,000 manuscripts and historians even say they are written in very close time to the origionals, and they are all through out there history 99.5 percent accurate of the time up to the very bible we have today! this is absolute historical and archeaological fact! You gather any amount of credible Historians from all over the Globe whether Christian or not and they will show you this is fact! as a matter of fact they already have donr this! The evidence for the history of the bible is more historicaly accurate in its integrity than the writings of Plato. This is historical fact!

Just alittle tid bit, did you know that archeaologists found the pool of bethesda and it five porticoes just as mentioned in the bible it was 40 ft below the ground,
Did you know they found a tomb in 1991 with the inscription on it of Caiaphas family. Oh theres so much more, thousands more as a matter of fact! Later dude and peace no strife here!


268 posted on 02/19/2007 7:18:14 PM PST by Wakeup Sleeper
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To: Wakeup Sleeper

I'm not looking for a metaphor, I'm looking for any valid proof that would remove any other possibility from the table, or even any proof that would give your beliefs any kind of validity at all. Faith is not going to cut it.

There is no proof that you can possibly provide, and that's fine with me.

Yes, it is my choice, and your 'side' has lost the initiative for multiple reasons, none of which you are prepared to acknowledge.


269 posted on 02/19/2007 7:23:29 PM PST by Pox (If it's a Coward you are searching for, you need look no further than the Democrats.)
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To: Pox

When you look around you Pox you know there is something up! when you look at nature, when you look at history, when you look at archeology, when you look at society and what works best, etc...etc... Yes we walk by faith and not by sight just as the bible says the righteous will live by faith and not by sight, but it is not a blind faith! So as I said the choice is yours everyday you live by faith with everything you do, when you start your car, when you go to work, when you buy something all by faith that these things will provide conveinance and provision, but there is no proof so to speak. Look at whats around you and what has been done and what is being done and you will see that there is a God and that Jesus Christ is the answer! If it walks like a duck quacks like a duck etc... I can only conclude that it is a duck!

Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen! Like I said, your choice friend!


270 posted on 02/20/2007 9:54:55 AM PST by Wakeup Sleeper
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To: Pox
To: Creationist Evolution has no proof and will never have any.

And the same can be said of the bible and God. There is no proof. There never will be.

Currently, evolution makes more sense than the fantasy writings in the bible, IMO.

As long as religious zealots and fundamentalists do not attempt to shove their dogma down my throat, I do not see any reason to deny you your beliefs. Attempt to shove those beliefs down my throat and I believe I then have the right to deny you existence.

113 posted on 02/18/2007 3:03:23 PM PST by Pox (If it's a Coward you are searching for, you need look no further than the Democrats.)
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You wrote you should own up to it.


You said, Just as you have in the entire thread, you cannot resist lying/exaggerating what it was I posted.

Disingenuous.


Stated what you said not once but twice is far from disingenuous.

Not very honorable are you.
271 posted on 02/20/2007 5:32:18 PM PST by Creationist ( Evolution=alternative to believing in God to justify their moral shortfalls and animal behavior)
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To: Creationist
And you seem determined to display a significantly low level of intelligence. You can twist my words and meaning all you please, but I guarantee you I will lose no sleep over it or you.

This is not surprising in the least, as far as I've seen all my life, your type preys on the ignorant and easily manipulated minds in order to spread your diseased thought processes. The only problem is, you've bitten off more than you can chew in this case. Please feel free to display your ignorance for all to see, I'm enjoying this immensely.
272 posted on 02/20/2007 5:59:40 PM PST by Pox (If it's a Coward you are searching for, you need look no further than the Democrats.)
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To: DaGman
KJV Ecclesiastes 1:
4: One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever. That is an interesting chapter. It is speaking of the vanities of men.

But as to your question where is it contradicting Genesis? I do not interpret it that way and some may.

Here is what the sentence says to me men live and men die but the earth will continue on for ever.

The thing is the sentence does not speak of time before there were men. The word abideth is to stand firm, for ever is of the future. Genesis speaks of the creation and gives us the beginning.

On a personal belief most versions of the Bible have translated words to what is supposed to help readers understand what is said. In this process they end up using words that portray a different mental meaning.

The KJV Bible uses older English word that have an availability to portray a mental picture to the reader. I do not believe this is a mistake, but was the purpose of God to have it this way.
273 posted on 02/20/2007 6:02:42 PM PST by Creationist ( Evolution=alternative to believing in God to justify their moral shortfalls and animal behavior)
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To: Pox

You insult and threaten you have anger issues. Read you own post. You are a threatening person. The words you use give the meaning you decide when some one crosses the line about speaking of God and if so well you said it.


274 posted on 02/20/2007 6:04:55 PM PST by Creationist ( Evolution=alternative to believing in God to justify their moral shortfalls and animal behavior)
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To: Creationist
"Shoving down my throat" does not equate to speaking. You have an ignorance issue, not to mention the atypical small town preacher mindset of the bullying type who will twist anything into a specious argument that those with a limited intelligence will find agreeable.

Sorry low life, but once again, you lose.

Your type has always struck me as a coward at heart, especially with the pathetic and limp phallus approach you have currently embarked upon.
275 posted on 02/20/2007 6:09:43 PM PST by Pox (If it's a Coward you are searching for, you need look no further than the Democrats.)
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To: Pox
Anger issues, name calling, verbal bullying.

This started out as a discussion of evolution and how they lie to the weak of mind who worship in the museums and science labs the theory with no proof.

You have come in and called me names threatened my existence, and challenged my courage. This all from a man who is supposed to have joined the Armed forces to protect me from. Just because I believe in God and do not adhere to the smoke and mirror sham they call evolution.

Evolution has no proof.

No one can show a transitional form, a species changing, beneficial mutations, natural selection actually selecting a mutation and that mutation being able to cross the species stasis.

No you defend you belief of a theory that has no proof, with fear by bullying and name calling.
276 posted on 02/20/2007 6:19:10 PM PST by Creationist ( Evolution=alternative to believing in God to justify their moral shortfalls and animal behavior)
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To: Pox
You said, ""Shoving down my throat" does not equate to speaking. "

What if some one make you eat a Bible?
277 posted on 02/20/2007 6:21:12 PM PST by Creationist ( Evolution=alternative to believing in God to justify their moral shortfalls and animal behavior)
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To: Creationist

I was right, you are an idiot, and a coward.

I have another question for you.

Do you find yourself sexually attracted to small boys on a regular basis?


278 posted on 02/20/2007 6:22:25 PM PST by Pox (If it's a Coward you are searching for, you need look no further than the Democrats.)
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To: Creationist
What if some one make you eat a Bible?

The correct structure would have been:

What if some one made you eat a Bible?

Ahh, so now you've actually started with the not so thinly veiled threats. Not surprising in the least.

I'd love to see you try, bunky!
279 posted on 02/20/2007 6:25:02 PM PST by Pox (If it's a Coward you are searching for, you need look no further than the Democrats.)
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To: Pox
Sorry buddy, I am nor would I ever threaten you. I was inquiring as to your back walking of your threat. You said shove it down your throat does not mean talking or writing. And I was just trying to understand what you mean, as you are making the rules up as you go here.
280 posted on 02/20/2007 6:34:02 PM PST by Creationist ( Evolution=alternative to believing in God to justify their moral shortfalls and animal behavior)
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