Posted on 01/20/2007 7:46:41 PM PST by RedRover
The Haditha Marine case, with its leaks of false information including, possibly, tidbits of confessions, has a recent parallel.
Remember the case of Petty Officer Daniel M. King? You dont?
Evidently, neither does the Washington Post, Associated Press, National Public Radio, and the rest of the media that repeats every NCIS rumor as gospel. This is surprising because it wasn't that long ago that the NCIS lied to them all.
It was the Daniel M. King case, a few short years ago, that should make everyone suspicious of every leak, and every media report, in the Haditha Marines case.
Petty Officer King was a Navy cryptanalyst: Cryptologist Technician (Collection) First Class (CTR1). He was arrested in 1999 on suspicion of espionage, and was summarily stripped of all his rights as a citizen of this country.
NCIS agents administered a polygraph test. It is possible that the agents were not properly trained. In any event, Daniel Kings polygraph was ruled inconclusive. At the same time, no hard evidence was found to back up the charge. So the NCIS agents needed a confession.
Petty Officer King was detained by and subjected to a torturous interrogation that lasted over 26 days for 19 to 20 hours at a time.
At a Congressional hearing, attorney Jonathan Turley would testify, The NCIS manufactured a theory of espionage without foundation and then took steps to compel statements to support that theory. The tapes and evidence secured by the defense in this case reveal agents seeking a trophy not the truth.
At the same hearing, Lieutenant Robert A. Bailey (JAG, US Naval Reserve), stated:
The conduct of NCIS agents in this case was nothing short of shocking. Independent reviewers have stated that their techniques were barbaric .
That such conduct occurred at the hands of NCIS is not surprising .Indeed, such conduct is predictable based on the training and guidance manual published by the NCIS.
According to the NCIS Manual, Chapter 14 - Interrogations, any person who adamantly denies any wrongdoing and points to his clean record is "subconsciously confessing."
If a confused suspect asks what is going to happen to him, the NCIS believes this is an indication that he "is beginning a confession."
Additionally, agents are to convey the idea that they will "persist as long as required to resolve the issue under investigation" and that they "will not give up the interrogation." .
[Petty Officer] King's only recourse was to confess to a crime he did not commit in the hopes that he would eventually receive a lawyer and the truth would come out.
Finally, the truth did come out--despite the efforts of the NCIS. Petty Officer King was not a spy.
He was released in March 2001 after a hellish 520 days in confinement. Confinement in "Special Quarters," the equivalent to maximum security lock-down condition in which he spent approximately 20 hours a day in a six-foot by nine-foot cell.
Today, the NCIS is continuing the same criminal behavior of coercing confessions and ignoring rules and ethics in pursuit of its target. You haven't been reminded of this story in the mainstream media. But the truth is there for anyone willing to look. It's all right here at Documents in the Case of US v. Daniel M. King .
Spreading the word can be an act of patriotism. If the truth stays secret, the very worst of men will bring down our nation's very best.
What? Does the double negative yield a translation of, "I'm sufficiently familiar with the internal processes at that level to know."?
All the challenges about the leaks and the NCIS falsification of evidence are not coming from JAGs appointed to defend the Marines.
Those civilian lawyers are paid for by the defendantsnot by the government. As long as the accused can keep writing checks to lawyers such as Jack Zimmermann, Neal Puckett, Gary Myers, and David Sheldon, justice may be served.
So if you care about justice for the men and women serving our country, please consider a donation to one of the Marine defense funds.
You can find more information at Defend Our Marines. For your convenience, heres a summary:
Marine Iraq Legal Defense Fund, Inc.
In California, near Camp Pendleton, a distinguished group of concerned citizens have agreed to serve as board members and will administer the fund. It has been established specifically to provide monies to service members who face criminal charges as a result of their service in combat zones.
The name of the fund is the Marine Iraq Legal Defense Fund, Inc. It has been set up as a charitable, non-profit 503(c) corporation. The members of the fund have volunteered to give their time to ensuring our Marines receive the best legal defense available. The board members, most are retired or former service members, include Judge Victor Ramirez , Rickard L. Borg, David Black, Stan Smith, Tom Humphries, and Jack Kelly.
Donations can be sent to:
Marine Iraq Legal Defense Fund, Inc.
c/o Judge Victor Ramirez
P.O. Box 1255
Solana Beach, CA 92075
Your donation can be earmarked to one or all of the accused. Write your preference on the memo line of the check.
You can also find out more about the fund online at MarineDefenseFund.com.
The Warrior Fund
Led by retired Marine, Timothy Harrington, this fund is actively involved in the defense of servicemen and women charged with crimes as a result of their service in Iraq. Donations by check can be earmarked to the Haditha Marines or other Marines being ruined by the NCIS inquisition. To donate or learn more about the fund, go to Warrior Fund.
If they Pendleton 8 had aright to have an attorny present when questioned, how come they were sequestered in conex boxes in Iraq without legal counsel for 2 to 3 weeks in the sun until they signed something that got them removed to CONUS?
Where was the charge sheet against the Commanding Officer who witheld legal counsel from these Marines while inside the CONEX boxes?
Could you please tell me what conex and conus boxes are? Also, which group of marines are we tallking about - Iron Triangle, Pendleton 8, Haditha? Just trying to catch up.
Thanks
CONUS is a typo
CONEX boses are steel boxes like you see on container ships, excatly like them. Some are slightly different in size and length, but all look alike.
No power, no water, no bathroom. In the sun. In Iraq.
Oh, I am sorry, when I said CONUS, I meant Continental United States, I was thinking I mispelled CONEX! :)
Gotcha. Is this the conex box you refer to?
From http://www.wbdg.org/design/am_metalbox-conex-storage.php
"The concept for using a container express (CONEX) container, as an explosives storage container for certain mixed munitions,.....
CONEX containers shall have internal dimensions of 92" long by 72" wide by 70" high, 0.125" thick corrugated steel walls and floor."
Is this right? A metal box less than 8 ft long, 6 ft wide, and 5 feet 10 inches tall?
For 2 to 3 weeks in Iraq sun? Are you kidding me? Can you say which group of marines were treated like this?
"Congress authorizes military commanders to issue Arrest Warrants against American citizens - CIVILIANS!
I was alerted Wednesday night, indirectly, there are situations wherein U.S. Marshals or armed bounty hunters have forced civilians to appear before court-martial.
Counselor Charles Gittins confirms military commanders hold this extraordinary power, writing that:
If a witness fails to appear at a military court-martial (or court of Inquiry), upon the issuance of a subpoena for appearance at a military court-martial (or court-martial), the military judge (or President of the [court of inquiry]) is empowered to issue a Warrant of Attachment for the appearance of that witness at trial. Once issued, a Warrant of Attachment is delivered to the Federal Marshal Service (FMS) and Federal Marshals are dispatched to find the witness and bring the witness before the military judge. This assumes of course, that the Government is able to demonstrate that the subpoena was properly served -- in person as required by the court-martial rules -- and that at the time the subpoena was served the witness was also served with a check for travel expenses and witness fees.
I hope this illuminates the issue. Frankly, it rarely happens for two reasons: 1) most witnesses who receive a subpoena appear at trial; and, 2) those who don't appear usually have advice of counsel and can show that the subpoena was not properly served in accordance with the Rules for Courts-Martial. (If the subpoena was not properly served, in person with the tender of travel and witness fees, the witness is not required to comply with it).
A Warrant of Attachment or Writ of Bodily Attachment can and has manifested itself in the form of an Arrest Warrant and fine.
Department of Defense form 454
Until Wednesday night I was unaware military officers had the power to issue any type or kind of Warrant against a U.S. citizen. I've never heard of this, never read about this, and not aware the practice actually carried out. I surmise not many of you ever knew.
This extraordinary power, now publicly exposed, is altogether consistent with earlier disclosures that military royalty have turned against American citizens.
Taken together with the history of the Articles of War (UCMJ), criminal conduct of command racketeers so far reported (now beyond argument), immunity from arrest or prosecution military politicians and command racketeers enjoy, recent UCMJ amendment, the absence of juries from courts-martial (attainder), forced confessions (duress), the unexampled growth of the JAG corps, all this and more reported at The JAG Hunter, I humbly offer a rather dark time is upon us, unparalleled in our history, regarding civil-military relations.
Of course, repeating myself now, if these practices are not stopped they will continue and grow. Media folk should be on high alert for reasons I've already reduced to writing. Seems there exists more than enough information in plain sight to effect immediate arrests of senior military officers, military politicians, and NCIS, CID agents so far criminally charged.
Beware the fury of the patient man!"
This is fact and a quote from a friend, More dots to be connected, dose this and more represent the powers run a muck, or do we add the words LAWFIAR. more to come
You found all that out and your neither JAG nor Special Agent?
I'll just say (for the record):
Does it matter?
Pendleton 8
I KNOW your English teacher is smiling.
No offense, but if you don't know, who would?
Do you think they'll require their agents to read the manual ; )
Mark Harmon, I am sorry with the cast change.
Again, and with feeling:
I have not been following the case and will not comment on it.
Probably somebody actually at the Pentagon...
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