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Rudy is too Pro-homosexual, too pro-gun control, and too much New York liberal to be viable.

He is just a typical prosecutor turned politician.

Rudy would be the perfect conservative candidate, if it were not for almost all of his policies...

Rudy Guiliani has marched in lockstep with liberals on affirmative action, gay rights, gay marriage, gun control, school prayer, tuition tax credits, liberal immigration policies, and he's reinforced it, time and time again. Just about everytime Rudy opens his mouth, offensive liberal words come pouring out. As Mayor, Rudy put liberals in high-paid city jobs, an indication what a Rudy WH would look like. Here then is Rudy in his own words:

--The New York State Liberal Party on its endorsement of Rudy Giuliani for Mayor: "When the Liberal Party Policy Committee reviewed a list of key social issues of deep concern to progressive New Yorkers, we found that Rudy Giuliani agreed with the Liberal Party's stance on a majority of such issues. He agreed with the Liberal Party's views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer and tuition tax credits. As Mayor, Rudy Giuliani would uphold the Constitutional and legal rights to abortion." N.Y.S. Liberal Party Endorsement Statement of Candidate Giuliani for Mayor of New York City April 8, 1989

--On the Republican Party: "Mr. Rockefeller represented 'a tradition in the Republican Party' I've worked hard to re-kindle - the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition." Rudy Giuliani told the New York Times July 9, 1992

--Village Voice Interview with Guiliani: He was asked: "What kind of Republican Is [Giuliani]? A Reagan Republican?" Giuliani pauses before answering: "I'm a Republican." Village Voice January 24, 1989

--On Attending 1996 Republican Convention: Rudy expressed his pleasure when he wasn't invited to the Republican National Convention in San Diego. "If I take three or four days off from city business, I want to do it for a substantive purpose. It didn't seem to me any substantive purpose could be served by going to the Republican convention." said Rudy. Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Page 459, by Wayne Barrett

--On Barry Goldwater: Giuliani described John Kennedy as "great and brilliant. Barry Goldwater as an "incompetent, confused and sometimes idiotic man." New York Daily News, May 13, 1997

--On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

--The Daily News quoted Giuliani as saying March 1996: "Whether you talk about President Clinon, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group." An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

--Revealing at one point that he was "open" to the idea of endorsing Clinton, Rudy said: "When I ran for mayor both times, '89 and '93, I promised people that I would be, if not bipartisan, at least open to the possibility of supporting Democrats." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett, Page 459

---Rudy Giuliani Endorses Democratic Governor Mario Cuomo October 1994: "From my point of view as the mayor of New York City, the question that I have to ask is, ˜Who has the best chance in the next four years of successfully fighting for our interest? Who understands them, and who will make the best case for it?' Our future, our destiny is not a matter of chance. It's a matter of choice. My choice is Mario Cuomo." Rudy Giuliani: Emperor of the City book by Andrew Kirtzman, Page 133

--Reaction to Giuliani Endorsement of Cuomo: "Once again, Rudolph Giuliani has demonstrated that liberalism is the foundation of his political philosophy. While Giuliani sold a bill of goods to trusting Republicans and Reagan Democrats that he had abandoned his roots as a McGovern Democrat, in his endorsement of Mario Cuomo, Mr. Liberal himself, he has shown his true colors. Giuliani's argument that Cuomo will be better for the city has a hollow ring to it. Perhaps Rudy wants a governor who will sign over a blank check to constantly bail out the city from its fiscal problems. Giuliani knows, as do all New Yorkers, that Cuomo's liberal policies have been an economic disaster for our city and state." "But Rudy doesn't care. He has proven he will do anything to stop the election of a conservative Republican - but he won't succeed." Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative Party Press Statement, October 25, 1994

--"[Quite] frankly, you have to understand the fact that Rudy Giuliani was a McGovern Democrat, he was endorsed by the Liberal Party when he ran for Mayor. In his heart, he's a Democrat. He's paraded all over this country with Bill Clinton and, in fact, he's very comfortable with Mario Cuomo. But what Rudy Giuliani wants is to be bailed out in the city, in the mess he's in, and everybody understands very clearly in politics that they struck a deal, that Mario's going to continue to be the big spender, save Rudy the options of raising taxes by pouring money statewide into the City of New York and bailing it out. Quite frankly, I predict that he will join the Democratic Party." Interview with Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative Party, CNN Crossfire, October 25, 1994

--On Gay Domestic-Partner Rights: "National Republicans can lump it if they don't like his new domestic-partners bill, "Mayor Giuliani said yesterday. "I really haven't thought about what the impact is on Republican politics or national politics or Democratic politics," Giuliani said. The bill he submitted to the City Council would extend the benefits city agencies must grant to gay and lesbian couples. "I'm proud of it," Giuliani said of the bill. "I think it puts New York City ahead of other places in the country." New York Daily News, May 13, 1998

--On Gay-Rights/Gay Rights Bill: Giuliani favors extended civil-rights protection for gays and lesbians. Giuliani urged, by letter, to the New York Senate Majority Leader to pass the state's first ever gay rights bill, but did it privately. "I am writing to convey my support for the current legislation to prohibit discrimination against gays and lesbians, and to urge you to allow the bill onto the floor of the Senate for prompt action." ".......It is my belief that we can penalize discrimination [against gays] without creating any potentially objectionable special privileges or preferential treatment." New York Post, June 5, 1993

--Now Rudy Giuliani has jumped on the bandwagon, pressing the state Republican Party to release a gay-rights bill to the Senate floor for a vote. Marching in Sunday's [Gay Pride] parade, he has enlisted in the struggle to destroy the family. What a perfectly abominable springboard to seek high political office. Ray Kerrison New York Post, June 30, 1993

--Giuliani said homosexuality is "good and normal." quoting Ray Kerrison New York Post, July 7, 1989

--On Gay Domestic Partnership: "I have no objection to the concept of domestic partnership," said Rudy Giuliani on Informed Sources New York T.V. Show (PBS), May, 1992

--On Abortion: Leaflets distributed by the Giuliani campaign .... said that he opposes restrictions to Federal Medicaid financing for abortions and opposes the Hyde Amendment, which is intended to deny support for that financing. New York Times, June 18, 1993.

--Rudy Guiliani on abortion: "I'd give my daughter the money for it [an abortion]."

--"I never called for the overturning of Roe vs. Wade." Rudy Giuliani, New York Newsday, September 1, 1989

--As mayor, Rudy Giuliani will uphold a woman's right of choice to have an abortion. Giuliani will fund all city programs which provide abortions to insure that no woman is deprived of her right due to an inability to pay. He will oppose reductions in state funding. He will oppose making abortion illegal. New York Times, August 4, 1989

--On Partial Birth Abortion: Mr. Giuliani has said that New York State law should not be changed to outlaw the procedure. New York Times, January 7, 1998

--On School Choice: "He doesn't support tuition tax credits and vouchers." Sandra Feldman, President of N.Y.C. Teacher's Union, 1993

--On Taxes: [Giuliani] says ruling out a tax increase is "political pandering." Newsday, August 31, 1989

Is this a joke? Am I logged in?

Rudy is actually strongly in support of traditional marriage

So much so that he's done it 3 times

Did you write this article?

Welcome to FR. Rudy for Prez? Fugetaboutit

Do we really want a nominee that is going to have to spend more time explaining his past and trying to repair his reputation with his "base?"

SO one website went over to the dark side. Whoop-de-friggin'-do.

There will already be a raving liberal candidate in 2008, although they may present themselves as "conservative". They will run as a Democrat.

The Dems have been morphing to the right, reinventing their political image (in Hillary's case, for over a year). Even Pelosi is in the news lately nattering about 'family values' (Where have we heard that expression before?)

SO the shills and the trolls want to run a candidate whose run will be effectively over the day the pic of him in drag gets nationwide airplay--about Nov 3, 2008.

nevermind.

Morons!

Giussolini is SOOOO 1990s! Then again, there are the left-side-of-the-bell-curve types who went gaga over a friggin' stump speech on 9/11.

Well, if I may say so, the problem is that there aren't an awful lot of Republican candidates out there. If it's a choice between Giuliani and McCain, I'll take Giuliani by a long shot. I think most Freepers would agree with that.

I'd love to see a strong, truly conservative, electable candidate emerge from the process. But I haven't seen any sign of it yet.

I wouldn't touch McCain with a ten foot pole.

Rudy for Prez?

In a word,

NO.

All your Moonbattery are belongs to us!

First of all, I think that anyone who says social conservatives will never accept Rudy are underestimating the intelligence of so-cons by implying that they are incapable of making sophisticated value judgments. Rudy Giuliani's record, both as the third most powerful official in the Dept of Justice in the Reagan administration, and as Mayor of NYC (an area whose population is larger than 40 out of 50 US states) is solidly conservative. He was one of the most successful crime fighters in modern US history, he cut crime by 57%, cut murders by 64%, inverted a $2.3 billion debt without raising taxes and, in fact, cut more taxes than any mayor in NYC history, abolished 20 taxes, cut 20% of NYC citizens' personal income taxes, cut the welfare rolls by 60%, graduated over 640,000 welfare dependents into the dignity of work, moved record numbers of jobs into the private sector, reformed the largest public school system in the nation, abolished social promotion and principal's tenure, established the nation's first and most generous Charter School Fund, and showed his appreciation for a strong national defense by going to great lengths to prepare NYC for terrorist attacks and then delivered 100% when the attacks actually came. Regardless of the lies that come from the MSM and beltway pundits, Rudy is not pro gay marriage, and in fact has always come out against it and pro traditional marriage, AND his personal views on abortion and gun control mean nothing when considered in light of his support for strict constructionist judges with strong conservative backgrounds (he named Roberts and Alito as ideal judges and he named Scalia as an ideal Chief Justice). Not only that, but he's the most electorally powerful Republican candidate we could possibly nominate, and would be sure to keep a Democrat out of the White House. If evangelical conservatives (like myself) will "never" accept Rudy as presidential nominee, than maybe we really are as ignorant and single-minded as some of you posters here make us out to be. Regardless, I have more faith in the intelligence and political sophistication of us so-cons.

IBTZ?