Social Conservatives for Rudy? (RudyRoots.org)

[don-o]

Rudy nominated = Republican loss.

Period.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

If it comes down to Rudy and the Dem. I will gladly vote for Rudy.

At least he knows what side to be on in the war on terror. If we don't win, any social issues don't mean a hill of beans.

So, you admit there is nothing socially conservative about Rudy - thus consigning the main point of your article (that social conservatives can trust Rudy) to be a load of crap.

Nice try, flak.

[Cicero]

Well, if I may say so, the problem is that there aren't an awful lot of Republican candidates out there. If it's a choice between Giuliani and McCain, I'll take Giuliani by a long shot. I think most Freepers would agree with that.

I'd love to see a strong, truly conservative, electable candidate emerge from the process. But I haven't seen any sign of it yet.

I wouldn't touch McCain with a ten foot pole.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

My bad - mixed you up with Ohio So-Con. Apologies...

[Dr.Zoidberg]

Rudy for Prez?

In a word,

NO.

[SoCalPol]

One of my local congressmen , Duncan Hunter is my guy.
If Rudy nominated, better him than the dem who will surrender us on the war on terror and all your social issues won't make any difference.
If you want a Democrat, that is your problem

[stockstrader]

I wonder if he has picked out a gown for his inaugural yet??

[TitansAFC]

Actually, I could hold my nose and vote for McCain,

I could not vote for Rudy, period.

[SoCalPol]

OK

[stockstrader]

Great post!

Please continue to post that info and those quotes on these many pro-Rudy threads,,,,that several 'Rudy-apologists' keep posting on FR.

[Emmett McCarthy]

If Rudy wants to advertise here, he should pay for it.

[stockstrader]

Maybe you could add Rudy's comment that, "Clinton did all that he could do"--when asked about Slick's dereliction of duty in the WOT. Was that pathetic pandering to the liberal left, or what??? geeeez

The person most culpable for 9/11 was Slick. Rudy showed his core liberal leanings again when he provided badly-needed 'political cover' for Slick by DEFENDING him after the Chris Wallace interview meltdown by saying that (and I am paraphrasing here since I don't remember the exact quote), "Bill Clinton did all that he could do". That comment helped take public heat off of Slick for not capturing OBL—when Slick was offered him three times. It was GREAT political cover, and I’m sure it made big points with the far left. I’m sure that he got a standing ovation at the KOS and every other liberal blog, talkshow, or TV show.

So “Slick did all that he could do”? Oh really, Rudy? Does that include Slick’s building of the Gorelick Wall? Does that include grossly underfunding our military? Does that include grossly underfunding our intelligence agencies with the ‘balanced budget’ that Slick so proudy took credit for? Does that include his minimal responses to numerous terrorist attacks on the US during the Slick years? Does that include Slick’s refusal to accept OBL when Sudan offered him to us? Does that include Slick’s unwillingness to ‘take out’ OBL when we had him in our sights (according the book from his mil aide, Buzz Patterson)? So “Slick did all that he could do”? Yep, he got WILD CHEERS from the far, liberal left for that one!!

Rudy’s comments, in itself, also makes the very case against a 'one trick pony' like Rudy--since he is, in effect, minimizing and trivializing number one reason for his own election! Thanks again, Rudy. But then again, why should that surprise anyone since he once said that’s Slick’s policies weren’t all that different than his (paraphrasing again). Yep, that will sure energize the base.

Combine Rudy’s comments with the incredible growth in government surveillance activities from the Patriot Act, ECHELON, CARNIVORE and who knows what else--along with the removal of the Gorelick Wall (thanks, again Slick), and the new gigantic government bureaucracy, with tens of thousands of new government employees (aka the Homeland Security Dept), and the blank check to our intelligence agencies--and you see that Pres Bush had put up a formidable line of defense that any future President can ride on for a long, long, long time.

We don't need a one-issue candidate like Rudy--when his abortion, gun control, pro-gay, pro-amnesty, big govt leanings (not to mention minor issues, like the 'train wreck'--aka his personal life) make him totally unacceptable to the core conservative base.

[Strategerist]

Rudy was a democrat turned republican to just get ellected in NYC.

Ummm...huh?

That isn't exactly an obvious strategic move one makes to get elected mayor of NYC.

[longtermmemmory]

The poster of this article registered today.

No responses from the original poster.

No http:// link to the source article/site.

I think it is pretty clear the poster is just a troll who wants to put up an article that can be searched so Lexis/Nexis will turn up a hit on Rudy as a conservative.

ALL: Is this complaint worthy?

FR should be aware we are now a target for viral advertising.

[Clint N. Suhks]

All your Moonbattery are belongs to us!

[monkapotamus]

Hehe I remember that bat!

[Clint N. Suhks]

Hmm...me Madagascan Lemar smells a Troll in Ohio So-Con.

One post wonder for a lib?

[Clint N. Suhks]

That is too cool BTW!

[donna]

That isn't exactly an obvious strategic move one makes to get elected mayor of NYC.

Rudy had to run as a Republican because he was too law and order for the Democrats. They would not let him in.

[Ohio So-Con]

First of all, I think that anyone who says social conservatives will never accept Rudy are underestimating the intelligence of so-cons by implying that they are incapable of making sophisticated value judgments. Rudy Giuliani's record, both as the third most powerful official in the Dept of Justice in the Reagan administration, and as Mayor of NYC (an area whose population is larger than 40 out of 50 US states) is solidly conservative. He was one of the most successful crime fighters in modern US history, he cut crime by 57%, cut murders by 64%, inverted a $2.3 billion debt without raising taxes and, in fact, cut more taxes than any mayor in NYC history, abolished 20 taxes, cut 20% of NYC citizens' personal income taxes, cut the welfare rolls by 60%, graduated over 640,000 welfare dependents into the dignity of work, moved record numbers of jobs into the private sector, reformed the largest public school system in the nation, abolished social promotion and principal's tenure, established the nation's first and most generous Charter School Fund, and showed his appreciation for a strong national defense by going to great lengths to prepare NYC for terrorist attacks and then delivered 100% when the attacks actually came. Regardless of the lies that come from the MSM and beltway pundits, Rudy is not pro gay marriage, and in fact has always come out against it and pro traditional marriage, AND his personal views on abortion and gun control mean nothing when considered in light of his support for strict constructionist judges with strong conservative backgrounds (he named Roberts and Alito as ideal judges and he named Scalia as an ideal Chief Justice). Not only that, but he's the most electorally powerful Republican candidate we could possibly nominate, and would be sure to keep a Democrat out of the White House. If evangelical conservatives (like myself) will "never" accept Rudy as presidential nominee, than maybe we really are as ignorant and single-minded as some of you posters here make us out to be. Regardless, I have more faith in the intelligence and political sophistication of us so-cons.