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1 posted on 09/20/2006 9:52:12 AM PDT by Froufrou
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Gonzales is a bum.


2 posted on 09/20/2006 9:54:06 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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I guess this will make it easier for Hillary to prosecute Freepers if she becomes Dictator of the USA.


3 posted on 09/20/2006 9:54:06 AM PDT by PeterFinn (Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for.)
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It's for the children!.............really!.....you can trust me!.........fer shure!......


4 posted on 09/20/2006 9:54:39 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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Every new encroachment on personal liberty and privacy always has an altruistic face.


5 posted on 09/20/2006 9:54:56 AM PDT by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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Wonder what the government will make of my constant back and forth among Free Republic, the Drudge Report, Ebay and Craigslist?


6 posted on 09/20/2006 9:56:17 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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Only if we get those 500 F.B.I. files....from the Clinton's


7 posted on 09/20/2006 9:56:24 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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WHAT records? billing data? That won't tell them squat. And don't tell me that any ISP can keep track of ALL surfing/e-mail/bittorrent activity indefinitely (well, they might if their client list is not terribly large). Damn control freaks.


8 posted on 09/20/2006 9:56:36 AM PDT by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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I'm surmising they want to keep the mappings of customer account numbers to DHCP and static IP addresses.

Of course the porn freaks will get around that with proxies.


9 posted on 09/20/2006 9:56:56 AM PDT by angkor
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ping


11 posted on 09/20/2006 9:57:01 AM PDT by KoRn
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I can't support this.

if the FBI wants to find online child porn - let the agents do searches themselves, subscribe to sites that host it, and then when they see the material - bust those sites and shut down their hosts. its easy. look how many online predators DateLine NBC was able to find on their own with sting operations - an endless parade of them.


12 posted on 09/20/2006 9:57:17 AM PDT by oceanview
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[sigh]

Nontechnical people always think that it is easy to maintain records, not realizing the difficulty that this creates for businesses, nor the cost overhead.
14 posted on 09/20/2006 10:00:14 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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Who does this guy think he is, Judge Dredd?


20 posted on 09/20/2006 10:02:55 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Zarqawi died, liberals cried....)
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The usual procedure: Find a 'for the chilrun' excuse to clamp down on the other 95% of citizenry.

It is well past time to start telling these tin-pots 'NO'

The very purpose of our form of government is to restrict government from becoming too powerful.

Spying on us "for our own good" certainly violates the intent of restriction.

Gonzales is a clear and present danger to freedom.

22 posted on 09/20/2006 10:04:57 AM PDT by JOAT
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"This is a problem that requires federal legislation," Gonzales told the Senate Banking Committee. "We need information. Information helps us makes cases."

This guy is a republican, right? Cause he sure doesn't sound like one.

BTW, who do the Feds think will pay for all this storage?

23 posted on 09/20/2006 10:05:09 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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Some people are mentally ill, therefore all must be monitored permanently.


24 posted on 09/20/2006 10:05:45 AM PDT by Protagoras ( "moderation in principle is always a vice."........Thomas Paine)
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But it's for the CHILDREN!!!

(favored tactic for those who would be Dictators. . . )


29 posted on 09/20/2006 10:14:48 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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40 posted on 09/20/2006 10:34:09 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Following in Europe's footsteps...

If you think this would only be used for criminal prosecution of kiddie porn peddlers and terrorists, know that the RIAA types in Europe can use it to sieze private records while fishing to see who's been sharing their music. The RIAA has a lot of sway here, so it's likely they'd get that power here, too.

44 posted on 09/20/2006 11:03:13 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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At Tuesday's hearing, Gonzales said he agreed with the sentiment of 49 state attorneys general who in a June letter to Congress expressed support for a federal law that would require longer retention of customer records.

Bravo for #50! Which state is that? I may want to move there.

57 posted on 09/20/2006 11:51:01 AM PDT by AlexandriaDuke (Conservatives want freedom. Republicans want power.)
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Gonzales wants ISPs to save user data

And S. Thinking wants Gonzales to get a job.

I'm fairly certain this data would probably not be used for anything I don't approve of by this administration, except for the general observation that almost any personal data the government gets ahold of can, and therefore it must be presumed, WILL be used improperly. But I'm just sick to death of goverment begging for expanded powers with reduced checks and balances to fight some popular bogeyman, such as drugs, or terrorism, or child molestation, then having received the powers, using them against the citizens on issues having nothing to do with the original sales pitch.

I'm also concerned what a Klintoon x44 administration might find interesting about our surfing habits.

AND, if the government can see too much, compliance with the laws loses much of it's voluntary nature. This in turn, removes a restraint on government to pass only laws people will obey willingly, in other words, voluntary compliance is a roadblock to tyranny. Why else are tyrants always trying to peek into the previously concealed lives of their victims, er, citizens.

60 posted on 09/20/2006 12:25:57 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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