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Alan Dershowitz: Abu M. Zarqawi
Huffington Pest via Yahoo ^ | 12 jun 06 | Alan Dershowitz

Posted on 06/12/2006 6:00:55 AM PDT by white trash redneck

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To: nikos1121
When it comes to the WOT and the Middle East, Dershowitz is as much on our side as Senator Liebermann.

And boy, does THAT piss off the DUmmies (LOL).

41 posted on 06/12/2006 7:51:03 AM PDT by ssaftler
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To: white trash redneck

Dershowitz knows what happens to his a$$ should the Islamo-nazi's ever get ahold of him... he's a rabid socialist... but he ain't nuts.


42 posted on 06/12/2006 7:52:45 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: Candor7
Snipers executing orders in time of war on designated targets were not involved in "targetted assassinations." They were involved in executing war time orders.

That sir is an excellent point.

43 posted on 06/12/2006 7:54:53 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: white trash redneck

All this talk about "TARGETED" killings leads me to wonder if there is any other reasonable and responsible use of organized violence by a national government. Would targetless killings be preferable? What would that look like anyway? Picking random targets? Non-combatants? Bombing civilian populations. Now THAT sounds like terrorism.


44 posted on 06/12/2006 7:56:52 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: EDINVA
See reply #34.
45 posted on 06/12/2006 7:58:36 AM PDT by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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To: Mr. Brightside
I find myself agreeing with Alan Dershowitz? That is scary.

Don't be scared. Dershowitz is a Liberal, a rare breed any more, so we may not agree on some points, but will agree with him on others. He's not a Leftist like those who have seized control of the MSM and the Democrat party over the last few decades. On the War on Terror, Conservatives and the few remaining (surviving) Liberals see mostly eye-to-eye.

46 posted on 06/12/2006 8:01:36 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: ssaftler

I think you're right about that...Problem is he should be more vocal in support of our mission. Say what you want, Bush took iniative where very few weaker presidents including his father would have gone...


47 posted on 06/12/2006 8:02:19 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: white trash redneck

I seldom agree with Dershowitz, but he's clearly correct here, although I can't see how those who were in the same damn house as Zarqawi can be described as "innocent collateral damage". As far as I'm concerned, we don't have nearly enough targeted assassinations.

I have no military experience, but it seems that there would be only two ways to really fight this kind of war. One is a completely covert, special ops, stealth killing of the bad guys leaders. The other is the conventional method where, once you've got overt troop operations, you go to the "gates of the city", as it were, give them a chance to send out the bad guys for prompt killing and, if they refuse, you level the city. We seem to be doing something in between and I don't understand it. Please, note again that I have no military experience, much less "expertise".


48 posted on 06/12/2006 8:38:31 AM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: white trash redneck

well, really, what would one expect from Powell? For a 'war hero' I found him fairly wimpy... he was more like "can't we all get along?" He didn't want to go into Baghdad in '90 thus enabling the Heussein regime during the intervening years and creating a situation where President Bush didn't have much choice by 2003.


49 posted on 06/12/2006 8:58:56 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Stirner
...In order to win this long struggle we must be willing to meet our opponents on their own level. But it is a shame that to do so we must become in any way similar to them.

i understand the 'hand wringin', but whatsa winner(?) in this mideast toilet gonna do?! long ago, great men decided thay couldn't negotiate w/hitler-could never trust 'im-what's different w/those who have earned the name 'diaperhead terrorists'?

50 posted on 06/12/2006 9:51:50 AM PDT by 1234 (WHO is Responsible for ENFORCING IMMIGRATION LAWS?)
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To: 1234

"what's different w/those who have earned the name 'diaperhead terrorists'?"

Nothing at all is different. We must do whatever it takes. My hand-wringing (and I'll admit that's what it was) is at the thought of the enemy changing us, forcing us to change, and wondering what we'll be like after we have won (which I fully expect to happen). The rough shape I see of a future complex world with enough built in safety for commerce to be worth conducting involves surveillance of just about everything. I can't see any other way to supervise would-be terrorists closely enough that we are protected. Such a world will be much less free in many ways, but that's what the Jihadis have imposed on us.


51 posted on 06/12/2006 10:24:58 AM PDT by Stirner
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To: SJackson

Bump


52 posted on 06/12/2006 11:37:16 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can't depend on your eyes, when your imagination is out of focus...Mark Twain)
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To: Stirner
...The rough shape I see of a future complex world with enough built in safety for commerce to be worth conducting involves surveillance of just about everything. I can't see any other way to supervise would-be terrorists closely enough that we are protected. Such a world will be much less free in many ways, but that's what the Jihadis have imposed on us.

yup; but it needn't be as inhumane and stultifying as "1984".

53 posted on 06/12/2006 1:54:13 PM PDT by 1234 (WHO is Responsible for ENFORCING IMMIGRATION LAWS?)
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To: SJackson
"On the killing of Sheik Yassin, head of Hamas, and his successor, Dr. Rantisi..."

Now that brings me back to a real, real happy time... ;)

54 posted on 06/12/2006 7:20:19 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo (+++ DEATH TO ISLAMIC TERRORISTS AND ANIMAL AND CHILD ABUSERS +++)
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To: SJackson
I applaud the targeted killing of Al Zarqawi.

I do too.

55 posted on 06/12/2006 7:20:59 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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