Posted on 06/07/2006 4:42:20 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
Aw, heck, my calculator's battery went dead. Well, there being 8 business hours in a day (according to the DUmmie who came up with this...if I'm not mistaken), that means the meeting lasted 1 hour short of two full days.
Haven't seen any immigration posts for awhile.
Sorry, PJ, I guess I put a damper on some folks visiting your thread. Oops!
...Per the U.S. Census Bureau, it was 7 million in 2003. Even if that number is low by 50%... it's no more than 10 million now, by a VAST max.
.....Or do you think the U.S. Census Bureau is made up of clintonite-bushite-one-worlder-communist-nazis?
NO BUT THE FIGURES DID NOT COME FROM THE CENSUS BUREA CONTRARY TO YOUR STATEMENT:
Does the Census Bureau collect data on the number of unauthorized migrants?
Answer
The Census Bureau collects citizenship data on foreign-born U.S. residents but does not ask further questions about immigration status. The Census Bureau does not ask legal (migrant) status on the decennial census or in the American Community Survey or Current Population Survey, as there is no legislative mandate for collecting this information. Given the success of Census 2000 in counting nearly every person residing in the United States, we expect that unauthorized migrants were included among people who indicated that the United States was their usual place of residence on the survey date. The foreign-born population includes naturalized U.S. citizens, lawful permanent residents (immigrants), temporary migrants (e.g., foreign students), humanitarian migrants (e.g., refugees), and unauthorized migrants (people illegally present in the United States).
Definitions:
U.S. Citizen - Respondents who indicated that they were born in the United States, Puerto Rico, a U.S. Island Area (such as Guam), or abroad of American (U.S. citizen) parent or parents are considered U.S. citizens at birth. Foreign-born people who indicated that they were U.S. citizens through naturalization are also considered U.S. citizens.
Not a U.S. Citizen - Respondents who indicated that they were not U.S. citizenship at the time of the survey. (Note: this category includes those who are Lawful Permanent Residents, Temporary Migrants, Humanitarian Migrants, or Unauthorized Migrants).
Foreign born - The foreign-born population includes anyone who was not a U.S. citizen or a U.S. national at birth. This includes respondents who indicated they were a U.S. citizen by naturalization or not a U.S. citizen.
http://ask.census.gov/cgi-bin/askcensus.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1115&p_created=1148654669&p_sid=uX5Y2t9i&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9NSZwX3Byb2RzPSZwX2NhdHM9JnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9aWxsZWdhbCBhbGllbnM*&p_li=&p_topview=1
Frankly, if the "fifty million" immigrants are LEGAL, then what's yer problem?
Same problem I would have with crack cocaine if it were legal. Some things, for various reasons, shouldn't be legal...OK, don't give me any crap about being unable to answer your argument. I just did. And don't say I'm comparing illegal immigrants to crack cocaine. You know that I didn't.>>
I'll try to play nice.
But:
Crack cocaine destroys the human brain. A large number of immigrants do not do the same thing to body politic, so long as they're spread over a sufficient period of time, 20 years or so. (Naturally, if they all arrive at once, sure they do. But short of a Stephen King-novel-esque natural disaster, they won't.)
One of them is immigration beyond the ability of American society to assimilate the immigrants. I believe that we are approaching, if not already past, those limits now. >>>
That's a political decision to be made by all of us, through our representatives in Washington, not by you alone. When that decision is made, it's made. You're entitled to your opinion; I disagree with it and I think the feds will too.
OTOH, I can understand if you are from a burdened border area, that you legitimately get that impression. But San Diego County is not the whole of the country.
What's your problem? You don't like America?>>
I'm very fond of America. I'm alive because of America.
I/m not calling you a disruptor, although you seem to be a very recent member. But I've trolled a lot, myself, over with the DUmmies (see my profile), and I know the signs. I'm seeing one or two of them here, although not enough to make a definite statement.
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I'm not a disruptor, just a lifelong Republican who often thinks outside the standard Republican box. The problem is that there are a lot of Republicans who are very, very fond of that damned box and don't want to be disagreed with.
My fear is immediate: Al Qaida wants to kill us all, with nukes if possible, with Sarin and dirty bombs and plague if not. Obvious point of entry is Mexican border. Close it, now. If amnesty's the price, fine. Since 90% of the immigrants who'd get these bennies are Mexican or S.A. Catholics, not Palestinian Muslim jihadists, it won't kill us. With Mexican Catholics, we can deal.
Second and less immediate fear is the problem of Mexican separatism in the SE US states. That's a political problem. If we don't deal with this now, sensibly, and try a boxcars-to-the-border deal, then we're no better than Slobo Milosivich.
We gotta fix the borders. But we also gotta be Americans. We're the good guys. Boxcars-to-the-borders is not a good-guys solution.
NO BUT THE FIGURES DID NOT COME FROM THE CENSUS BUREA CONTRARY TO YOUR STATEMENT:
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Look at the story i cited. CNN states that the U.S. Census Bureau released the figures. Who are you saying gave them the figures? The U.S. Census Bureau's evil twin, Skippy?
Escuchame -- si cierto es el Fin de EUUA. Sin Embargo.
This is America. Speak Bengali.
See you later on an immigration thread. Maybe. Have a nice day.
What a nutbar Pitt is! He truly needs to stick to his medication.
That is hilarious.
Check out the discussion link on his Wikipedia page.. it seems a lot have seen through him.. votes for deletion..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:William_Rivers_Pitt
Priceless...everything else takes VISA!
I may return to DUFunnies, I may not. If I do it will be because incosiderate A$$ES such as those who have taken over your thread for their immigration agenda are gone. They insult you and all the fine work you've done to make DUFunnies the best and most successful thread on FR.
I've already registered an abuse complaint on one of them (post #144). I won't tolerate self-centered children who think the world revolves around their pet interests.
Please remove my from your ping list. I'll decide whether I return or not after lurking from time-to-time.
Best regards,
bcsco
It's hard to not get angry at the man when he attempts to sell our sovereignty down the river with amnesty and this North American Union crap.>>>
It's just as hard to not get angry at those who think that giving legal status to people who are already here and who cannot be gotten rid of short of violent methods constitutes "selling our sovereignty down the river".
Actually, I think the most important reason to vote republican is what would happen to our soldiers if the dems won the congress, WH or both. These young men and women are fighting & dying for us. Dems have made it clear that they DO NOT believe in what they're doing and why. I've seen enough comments to know they have utter contempt for our soldiers. I don't want our troops hung out to dry by the likes of Levin, Hillary, etc. I want elected officials who understand why our soldiers are fighting and won't denegrate their mission or bring them home before they've finished a job they've fought, bled and died for. The border is important but our best and brightest on the front lines trump a fence in my book.
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