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Haditha, The Story We ALL Want To Know...
News Sarasota ^ | May 4, 2006 | Matt Bruce

Posted on 06/04/2006 3:44:54 AM PDT by Matt Bruce

Written By: Matt Bruce

SARASOTA, FL. (NS) -

Democrat Congressman John "I used to be a Marine" Murtha thinks that he knows the real truth about Haditha. But does he???

He's been running his mouth to every last cable show that he can appear on. This 'loose-lipped' former Marine has accused troops of wantonly killing some two dozen civilians, including children, "in cold blood" in the terrorist stronghold in Iraq last November. Currently there are 'at least' two ongoing military investigations into the incident itself and the actions of higher-ups in the Haditha aftermath...

I am reminded about the phrase, "loose lips sink ships"...

All of us who served in Vietnam remember what happened there when several hundred Vietnamese civilians were killed in a 'Free Fire Zone' by a Company of American Army Troops, and the subsequent trial of Lt. William Calley...

This is NO Vietnam and let me repeat to everyone that the investigation is still ongoing about Habitha and it is not complete...

In fact the official reports aren't expected to be released for several weeks yet...

We do not know the truth about Haditha, and neither does John Murtha. The media is insistant on calling the alleged massacre a "massacre" before all the facts are in, and that just isn't right...

Does anybody other than me think that it just might be more sensible if we just let the investigators handle their investigation without any of us passing judgement until ALL the facts are in???

VA. Sen. John Warner, who like Murtha also served in the Marines, has struck the correct stance about Habitha. He refused, unlike Murtha, to render a verdict against the Marines before trial and avoiding adding any more 'fuel to the fire'. He has taken these allegations very seriously, but is withholding any judgement until the investigation is completed...

We all do know that children are dead and others have been orphaned. There are pictures of bullet holes and bloodied homes. There are evolving stories about what happened last Nov. 19 and serious allegations of a possible cover-up...

But is this what happened? There are 2 sides to this story, and none of us know the real facts yet and we should all just let the investigations proceed before any of us pass any further judgement on anybody...

Lance Cpl. Miguel Terrazas, the Marine who was killed by a roadside IED that day, followed a proud family tradition of military service. He had received a commendation for bravery on his first tour of duty in Iraq in 2004. One of his fellow Marines said Terrazas's body was split in two by the bomb explosion that rocked his Hummer while on patrol that morning...

Those of us who have seen combat and lost one of our buddies all know the feeling for wanting quick revenge against the enemy that has killed our friends and fellow soldiers. Those of us who served in Vietnam all know what a 'Free Fire Zone' is and what the 'rules of engagement' entail to them. But for the most part, cooler heads have always prevailed and the rules of engagement followed. Something like this alledged incident in Habitha rarely happens, if at all...

Our Troops are the best equipped and best trained in the World and they do follow the Military Code of Conduct while they are performing their duties around the World...

And there was this FACT: Haditha was known and confirmed to be full of terrorists on that day last November. The AP has already pointed out that "in just three days last August, six Marine snipers were killed in Haditha and 14 Marines died in nearby Parwana in the deadliest roadside bombing of the war."

Most-wanted al Qaeda leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is reported to also have lived in Haditha. The Washington Post quoted a military lawyer noting that Nov. 19 was the Marine 3rd Battalion's "hottest day" in Iraq...

Is there any rational thinking person out there who doesn't think al-Zarqawi was capable of doing something like this hoping that our Military forces would be blamed???

"In addition to the drone surveillance on that day," the Washington Post reported, "AV-8 Harriers were dropping bombs, helicopters were evacuating wounded, and a large firefight occurred about one-third of a mile from the site of the civilian shootings, said several people familiar with the investigation." Audio of that radio traffic reportedly contradicts Cong. Murtha's claim that the Marines did not come under small-arms fire after the roadside explosion, according to one of the Post's military sources...

We also know this factas well, that Naval Criminal Investigative Service officials have not turned their backs. Time magazine, which initially broke the story of survivors' accounts that prompted the military probe, reports that Haditha residents -- who have yet to be visited by any of Iraq's own officials -- "were gratified by the thoroughness" and "were especially impressed by the NCIS investigators" conducting three separate enquiries...

Finally, there is one incontrovertible fact: There are countless numbers of anti-war people on the American Left rooting for failure of any kind by America and our Military. They believe the worst about our troops. They have also embraced people who've lied about their military service and lied about wartime atrocities. They've allied themselves with socialist kooks and coddled murderous dictators. They are looking for any excuse to pull out, abandon military operations and reconstruction, and to impeach the president...

Remember that when you go to vote in the 2006 Elections...

These same people insist on giving suspected foreign terrorists more benefit of the doubt than our own men and women in uniform. And that is something I am not going to do...

I support ALL of those who defend, protect and serve America. I honor those who would put their lives on the line everyday in the War on Terror so that we might be free and safe from Radical Islamic Terrorist's sworn to our destruction...

I will stand up for America and our Military! Meanwhile all we can do is wait and pray for those in harms way defending our freedoms that 'some' take for granted, just so they can have a voice to 'protest'...

I will also remind you that the killing of innocent civilians is and remains something our American Military Forces try to avoid at all costs. War is HELL, and people die. But this, in fact, is the Radical Islamic Jihadist's way of life...

They don't care about others and will kill anybody that gets in the way of their perverted and radical way of defining the Islamic religion...

Wake Up America! This IS a Religious War on Terror between Christians and Radical Fundamentalist Islamic Terrorist's...

God Bless America...

For Now, That's Just 'OUR' Opinion...

Matt Bruce - News Sarasota.com - Newsbull Contributing Syndicated Columnist -

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To: MrCruncher

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21 posted on 06/04/2006 9:39:38 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

Murtha Ping


22 posted on 06/04/2006 9:40:07 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Just A Nobody
How you doing? Long time no see! I'm fine, thank you. Extremely busy, wild schedules, things required to be done last year not yesterday! You changed your screen name from one word? I thought another FReeper will shout at me: WHAT'DA YA MEAN BY NEWBIE? LOL!
23 posted on 06/04/2006 9:41:20 AM PDT by melancholy
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To: MizSterious; Just A Nobody
More than a dream. It's their plan, and some of the lefties on Fox's "News Watch" said as much last night.

I agree with you and wonder: Why would anyone want to rule the USA after reducing it to a Zimbabwe by knocking down its power (bashing and weakening the military), sovereignty (LEGALIZING ILLEGAL immigration), Authority (calling the CIC and government liars three times before and after every meal?

24 posted on 06/04/2006 9:55:54 AM PDT by melancholy
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To: melancholy

LOL! It was always supposed to be like this. I finally got around to changing it. ;*)


25 posted on 06/04/2006 10:24:47 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: melancholy; freema; MizSterious; jazusamo
...gave the idea to terrorists to start staging executions of Iraqi civilians then burning or bombing the place and blaming it on our troops.

Gave the idea to - or - gave the signal to commence. No need for "electronic surveillance" that may be intercepted by the NSA, when you can use the "hallowed" halls of CONgress.


Removing tin foil hat now.........

26 posted on 06/04/2006 10:31:55 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Just A Nobody
LOL! It was always supposed to be like this. I finally got around to changing it. ;*)

I'm happy this came out. A while back when you changed, I thought I was going goofy. I was sure it had been one name. :-)

27 posted on 06/04/2006 10:42:37 AM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: Matt Bruce
Thank you for an excellent post. I received a copy of General George S. Patton's speech that was made somewhere in England on June 5, 1944. I tried to find a segment that wasn't laced with so many expletives that would give an idea of the difference between him and John Murtha. Here is one comment: "Men, this stuff that some sources sling around about America wanting out of this war, not wanting to fight, is a crock of bs. Americans love to fight, traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle. You are here today for three reasons. First, because you are here to defend your homes and your loved ones. Second, you are here for your own self respect, because you would not want to be anywhere else. Third, you are here because you are real men and all real men like to fight. When you, here, everyone of you, were kids, you all admired the champion marble player, the fastest runner, the toughest boxer, the big league ball players, and the All-American football players. Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win all of the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost nor will ever lose a war; for the very idea of losing is hateful to an American."

I realize Patton never had to contend with Korea and Vietnam, but things might have been different if he had. I can only imagine what Patton would say to Murtha if he were still alive!

28 posted on 06/04/2006 11:40:43 AM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: Just A Nobody
No need for "electronic surveillance" that may be intercepted by the NSA, when you can use the "hallowed" halls of CONgress.

Even if intercepted by the NSA: "how dare you monitor my call to my relative, Abu Musaab Al Murthawi? It's free speech, blah blah blah. I'm supposed to be a member in the "hallowed" HOLES of CONgress.

29 posted on 06/04/2006 11:55:07 AM PDT by melancholy
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To: freema; MizSterious; jazusamo

Sorry, forgot to copy you on #29


30 posted on 06/04/2006 11:57:13 AM PDT by melancholy
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To: PeskyOne

Absolutely TRUE! My dad fought under Patton with the 82nd Airborne during the Battle of the Bulge and went all the way to Berlin with Patton's 3rd Army. He'd roll over in his grave if Murtha's comments actually lead to any kind of weakening or surrender of our position in Iraq and the World...

Thanks for the Patton comments! My dad would thank you too, if he was still alive...


31 posted on 06/04/2006 11:59:29 AM PDT by Matt Bruce (News Sarasota.com)
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To: Matt Bruce

Would you like a copy of the speech? It contains a lot of profanity, but I could send it to you via Private Reply.


32 posted on 06/04/2006 12:05:15 PM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: melancholy

LOL! I see you have been working hard on perfecting your rhetoric...or does that just come with seniority? ;*)


33 posted on 06/04/2006 12:22:54 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: PeskyOne

ABSOLUTELY! Send It!


34 posted on 06/04/2006 12:44:20 PM PDT by Matt Bruce (News Sarasota.com)
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To: Just A Nobody
LOL! I see you have been working hard on perfecting your rhetoric...or does that just come with seniority? ;*)

No hard work, rather, worked-up on them traitors. I just hope that we don't get too divided and angry at our RINOS to let the traitors take the country over in '06 and '08

The best way is to have petitions to enable us to recall politicians and make new state laws to prevent governors from replacing the recalled one with another from an opposite party. A RINO could be replaced in 6 weeks and we don't have to fight it out between ourselves, sit on our hands and enable the crooks to win.

35 posted on 06/04/2006 1:11:39 PM PDT by melancholy
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To: PeskyOne; smoothsailing; usmcobra
I can only imagine what Patton would say to Murtha if he were still alive!
36 posted on 06/04/2006 1:32:22 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: melancholy

Scary.


37 posted on 06/04/2006 1:33:13 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Just A Nobody
Has anyone considered the dates? For instance, the alleged Haditha incident took place on November 19, 2005.

A heated "debate" took place in the US House of Representatives on November 18, 2005. Rep. Murtha called for the immediate withdrawal of US troops in Iraq. A vote followed and was defeated 400-3.

I find this very "curious" for the lack of a better word.

Given the difference in time zones it may have happened at the same time.

38 posted on 06/04/2006 1:52:37 PM PDT by usmcobra (A single rogue Marine, yeah that can happen, but a whole Unit, only a liberal would believe that BS)
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To: usmcobra

IIRC, the vote took place around 8-9 PM, which would have been 4-5 AM in Iraq.....I think.


39 posted on 06/04/2006 2:54:31 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Just A Nobody

I can't remember did Muthra vote against his own bill?

I think he did.


40 posted on 06/04/2006 3:14:50 PM PDT by usmcobra (A single rogue Marine, yeah that can happen, but a whole Unit, only a liberal would believe that BS)
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