Posted on 05/19/2006 7:18:41 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
At 4:23 PM today, TruthOut issued a non-apology apology over Hoaxmas. It sort of looks like an apology but it really ISN'T an apology. What it really is is a heaping load of of unadulterated BULL. As we shall see, not even the DUmmies are buying it. So let us now jump right in with the lame NON-APOLOGY APOLOGY typed out in a fit of desperation by TruthOut's Marc Ash in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, hoping that Pied Piper Pitt has a designated driver wherever he is tonight, is in the [brackets]:
The Rove Indictment Story as of Right Now
[Deeply immersed in a huge load of bull.]
On Saturday afternoon, May 13, 2006, TruthOut ran a story titled, "Karl Rove Indicted on Charges of Perjury, Lying to Investigators." The story stated in part that top Bush aide Karl Rove had earlier that day been indicted on the charges set forth in the story's title.
[And Marc starts off right away trying to feed us a heaping pile of bull since the story did not state that Karl Rove had earlier that day been indicted. It flat out stated that he had been indicted the PREVIOUS DAY. Not only that, Pied Piper Pitt shouted out in DUmmieland that the indictment would have "May 12, 2006" on it as the date. Please continue piling it on, Marc...]
The time has now come, however, to issue a partial apology to our readership for this story. While we paid very careful attention to the sourcing on this story, we erred in getting too far out in front of the news-cycle. In moving as quickly as we did, we caused more confusion than clarity. And that was a disservice to our readership and we regret it.
[God forbid you issue a FULL apology for peddling a FALSE story. And what does it mean to get "too far out in front of the news-cycle," Marc? You drinking from the same sauce bottle as Pitt? Why don't you just UP FRONT state whether the story was TRUE or FALSE?]
As such, we will be taking the wait-and-see approach for the time being. We will keep you posted.
[Yeah, you keep us posted on whether the Tooth Fairy stole those Karl Rove indictment papers. Even the DUmmies can't swallow the bull being served up by Marc Ash as you can see starting on DUmmie HOAXMAS THREAD #17 where the TruthOut Non-Apology Apology was first posted.]
Not only does it not clear anything up, it doesn't say anything at all.
[Didn't you get it? TruthOut got so far in front of the news cycle that they got run over by their own cycle.]
"too far out in front of the news-cycle". I don't know what that means.
[Pitt can explain it to you if you buy him a drink.]
It means "we're trying to spin that we were completely wrong".
[LOL!!! And a Kewpie Doll to you!]
non-apology, it's not a retraction nothing has changed. they are digging themselves into a deeper hole They also, have not pulled the story or the headline on the home page. They are standing by their story.
[Pitt is standing on Rove's indictment paper that is dated (according to him), May 12, 2006. No ifs, ands, or butts.]
i think it means that they got out in front of reality
[Don't get too far ahead of reality or it will run you over.]
????we erred in getting too far out in front of the news-cycle??? What in blazes does THAT mean? We apologize for being ahead of the curve??? That's not helpful. It's a non-apology apology. I suppose it is a shred better than nothing, but it still does not address the fundamental issues; the 24 hour business, the lack of a verifiable indictment which was not said to be sealed in the report, or the issue of the three/five/seven sources and the baker's dozen set of eyes that supposedly vetted the work.
[And don't forget the 15 hour lockdown with the Secret Service of Patton Boggs. Oh, and Sonny Crockett too!]
The whole "24 hours to get his affairs in order" thing was made up. Ask any lawyer.
[Inluding an OldLeftieLawyer.]
That's a complete non-explanation of truthout's goalpost-moving
[It took them 24 business hours to move that goalpoast.]
ROFL! They're just easing into a complete retraction...
[We've gone from Frog Walk to Retraction into the Turtle Shell.]
This incident probably caused a civil war at truthout. There have to have been staffers at truthout who didn't want their site to have anything to do with Leopold or his "investigative reporting".
[They were all outvoted by the Magic Man. And now on to DUmmie HOAXMAS THREAD #18 where the DUmmies are even MORE skeptical about TruthOutTheDoor's Non-Apology Apology.]
So, wait they're officially apologizing for "getting too far out in front of the news cycle?" What is that? They're apologizing for the the timing of the story, but not the content? Are they addressing the content of the story at all in that partial non-apology? It doesn't look like it. What "wait and see" approach? The story was wrong - why can't they simply correct it? That's really lame.
[Even the DUmmies think this TruthOut "apology" is really Pittiful.]
No more truthout for me. No More rawstory or truthout for me. I will stick to DU, Huffingtonpost, Johnconyers jnr Blog, michalemoore.com and bartcop.
[Giving up heroin for crack?]
And now I have to go slap my shop steward for getting me to go to T.O.
[And then slap yourself for remaining in DUmmieland.]
Right now, w/this non-apology for a non-story, they've just prolonged the questions & the inevitable embarrassment of a retraction. It's been a week - of continuing stories, clarifications, & new and improved details from Leopold. And this is the best explanation they can come up with? Was the story right, or was it wrong? Defend it, or retract it, but don't try to manipulate people & hide behind meaningless statements. At a newspaper, these editors & reporters would be fired.
[Or promoted like Jayson Blair at the New York Times.]
"getting too far out in front of the news-cycle" = making shit up
[To be precise, Pitt Shitt.]
It's so unbelievably arrogant for them to come out w/this cavalier non-apology, after the story's already been proved false. Really, who do they think they are? Are they not accountable to their readers? The "news cycle" & "wait & see" thing was extremely patronizing - it's almost like they're trying to fool people all over again. Were they really expecting people to buy this? I can also see why Leopold found such a home there. I used to think they got duped, but this non-explanation now makes me think that they're in it as deep as Leopold is.
[Based on past experience, they were confident the DUmmies would buy it. After all, they were just $10 away from indicting Karl Rove.]
I see now why Jason Leopold was able to get work with this group. They're as nuts as he is, but they're not as smart as he is.
[Jason Leopold is smart enough to NEVER try confessing his innermost secrets in DUmmieland under a transparent "Temporary Sockpuppet" identity.]
Rubbish. Absolute rubbish. This weasel bullshit is the best they could come with? "Too far out in front of the news cycle" - unbelievable. There must not be a banquet hall on earth big enough to hold their egos. I literally am speechless.
[A state in which Pied Piper Pitt NEVER finds himself.]
I am *pissed*, to say the least. All I have wanted is for Rove to get his. You led me on for a good week, TO! I am so *sick* of this whole era! I wish there was such a thing as a time-machine so I could just *get away*! Everyone just lets me down, all the time! It's an f-ing nightmare! Why can't I just wake up & have it all be over?
[Take a Time Trip to the Era of the Eloi. However, there will ALWAYS be the Morlocks ready to devour you wherever you go.]
There is more class in this one post... that Will Pitt has shown on DU for a long time. I truly believe his fame went to his head, and he forgot that much of that fame came from the help he received from DU. I remember when he used to post his articles here and have them editted for FREE by people who cared for the truth. Then when DU had helped him to tighten them up and make them better, then he would post them over at TO. DU helped make Will Pitt and TO, and what do we, and most importantly the admins get? They get called cretins.
[Did you help Pitt edit his Hockey Puck Geopolitical Treatise in which he proclaimed that the Third American Empire was born in the midst of fans cheering America's 1980 Olympic hockey victory over the Soviets?]
here's why this story was not plausible from the beginning does anyone really think that "white house staffers" would tell Jason Leopold the time of day, let alone something like this? the folks in the whitehouse are all bush cronies. they aren't going to leak something like this, and if they did, they certainly wouldn't call up JL. the scenario of "multiple sources" flocking to JL to tell him something this sensitive is just not plausible. but this only happened because WE all WANTED to believe it so badly.
[I thought Jason's assertion of Sonny Crockett as a source was pretty credible.]
you know flags should have gone up once the article was published
[Instead, DUmmie victory champagne bottle corks popped on a mass scale.]
Wasn't Joseph Wilson himself supposedly one of the sources?
[That was definitely Pitt's drunken assertion. And now the DUmmie Demolition Derby proceeds to DUmmie HOAXMAS THREAD #19.]
These threads make me laugh out loud.... So damn entertaining.
[LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]
Is Jason Leopold the James Frey of Journalism?
[A Thousand Little Feces.]
Maybe he's the Jason Blair of the Blogs?
[Or Boggs.]
It's a non-apology, for a non-story. Fitting, I guess.
[Edited by a soon-to-be non-person.]
Of course, the difference between Will "Magic Man" Pitt and Spider-Man is that Pitt spins a tangled web that only catches himself and his allies.
It's odd.
Someone somewhere else found an old post where the Bostonian Idiot had already revealed his sources for the Karl Rove indictment, but even with wireless, the link takes w-a-a-a-y too long to load.
Anything and everything connected with the Bostonian Idiot seems to be messed up today.
OldLeftieLawyer (1000+ posts) Sun May-21-06 03:43 PM
Response to Reply #27
102. Uh, "handing over a sealed indictment to the client's lawyers"?
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHHHA!!!!!!!!!!
Good one.
I checked out the link but I got 'page cannot be displayed'.
"Now for Mr. Carallo's response:
1. Truthout's claims remain demonstrably false. They are "utter lies. There is not a shred of truth to them."
2. Neither Rove, his lawyer Bob Luskin or Patrick Fitzgerald were at Patton Boggs on Friday or Saturday. There was no meeting and no communication of any kind.
3. Karl Rove has not been indicted. He has not been told he has been indicted. He has not been told he is a target. His status remains unchanged.
4. Those reporting to the contrary are "bald-faced liars or completely delusional or both."
5. There have been no discussions of any deals whatsoever between Fitzgerald's team and Rove's team. Not once in all the years this has been going on.
6. Truthout does not have sources in position to know what they claim they were told. There is no one at Patton Boggs who provided this information. It's laughable. If any sources exist, they have lied to Truthout.
7. Corallo did give Marc Ash's phone number to Howard Kurtz of the Washington Post. He knew that Kurtz was writing a story about how the mainstream media had to "follow up on the lunacy and these frauds who are passing themselves off as legitimate journalists.""
LOL!
It would serve them all well to stop digging themselves in further, (amazing how they're able to do that without really saying anything at all) shut down shop for a while and take some remedial writing classes.
Now, for the important stuff: Where's Pitt? I miss Pitt. Does anyone have some older 3:00 in the morning drunken rants they could link for me?
I'm with you! If anyone finds other rants, please ping me as well.
On another note, did you guys see the post to lala earlier today where a DUmmie said Leopold used to write for Raw Story? I'll try to find it, it was pretty funny.
No Bostonian Idiot the past 88+ hours, since that mid-day appearance (after the drunken rant) with the truthout crowd near the middle of last week.
Over the past few days, when communicating with friends and alums all over the country, I asked them to do me a particular favor.
They didn't understand why, but they did it.
The Bostonian Idiot (under his real name) has now been "paged" in places such as a Wal-Mart near Richmond, Virginia, O'Hare International Airport in Chicago, Illinois, a Village Inn in Denver, Colorado, O'Rourke's Bar in Lincoln, Nebraska, a Shopko near Detroit, Michigan, the state office building in Des Moines, Iowa; and so on and on.
The Bostonian Idiot hasn't answered any of them.
It would be NUTS NOT to question Leopold's articles, when he has a history of exactly the kind of problems he's having with the current article. It is interesting that Leopold is no longer writing for Raw Story - supposedly for "personal reasons" although three of his his stories he wrote for RS remain unsubstantiated.
To hand Leopold off to a competing website, and then sing the praises for the other website and Leopold suits you well: you can be oh-so-nice while you watch a known timebomb take down one of your main competitors. Yes, it is that transparent. You yourself criticize Leopold when it suits you.
The Bostonian Idiot revealed his source for the Karl Rove Nonindictment Nonstory as long ago as May 5, although this never got printed until May 8.
This is a long rant, covering everything from the Bostonian Idiot's concern for American soldiers have to beg for food from Iraqi civilians, to George Bush's pronuniciation of the word "nuclear," and other twiddletwat.
The key part:
.....I am not freaking out about the impending indictment of Karl Rove in the Valerie Plame investigation. I should be, but I'm not. The voices in my head tell me the indictment is coming soon, but I am holding it together. Hell, it's not like this is a big deal or anything. Valerie Plame was only running a CIA intelligence network dedicated to tracking the nuclear ambitions of Iran, and her exposure only annihilated a good portion of our ability to keep an eye on that situation. It's not like wrecking her career and exposing her position was a blow to national security or anything.....
"The Bostonian Idiot hasn't answered any of them."
You crack me up. LOL!
"covering everything from the Bostonian Idiot's concern for American soldiers have to beg for food from Iraqi civilians"
Yeah, those voices in his head are hyperactive.
I am truly concerned for the Bostonian Idiot.
I've seen a lot of wrecked lives (fortunately no family or friends) for the alcoholically-challenged.
I'm trying to reach out, to be sure the guy gets some intense mental help.
I actually have Pitt's cell phone number but am fighting the temptation to call him now.
Forgotten in this Hoaxmas scandal is that just a little over a week ago, Pitt gave a self-righteous lecture in morality to Richard Cohen.
Nah, I wouldn't do that.
The Bostonian Idiot is in such a fragile mental state that probably it's best for those close to him to deal with him.
It would be nice however to know if he's okay, and getting the help he so badly needs.
Howard Kurtz is wrting a WPO story about the internet speculation on the Truthout kook story.
PRIMO opportunity to get the DUmmie FUnnies mentioned in the WAPO!
Absolutely.
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