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Beating Jack Murtha
RedState ^ | 5/18/06 | AaronVB

Posted on 05/19/2006 8:11:38 AM PDT by Coop

...[u]nseating an incumbent in the House is always difficult. Unseating a 32-year incumbent is harder still. However, Murtha may be up for a "Daschle moment" - a high-profile defeat earned by running far to the left of one's constituents. To start with, we should take a look at the voting results for the counties within the 12th district for the 2004 Presidential election:

2004 Presidential voting results, counties within Pennsylvania 12th:

Greene County:
Bush 7,786 (50%)
Kerry 7,764 (50%)

Fayette County:
Kerry 29,129 (53%)
Bush 25,045 (47%)

Washington County:
Kerry 48,225 (50%)
Bush 47,763 (50%)

Westmoreland County:
Bush 100,087 (56%)
Kerry 77,774 (44%)

Cambria County:
Bush 34,048 (51%)
Kerry 32,591 (49%)

Indiana County:
Bush 20,254 (56%)
Kerry 15,831 (44%)

Armstrong County:
Bush 18,925 (61%)
Kerry 12,025 (39%)

Overall:
Bush 253,908 (53%)
Kerry 223,339 (47%)

The counties in the district have a clear Republican lean. Of course, the district does not contain the entirety of these counties because of the 2000 gerrymandering, but that gerrymandering was carried about by a Republican controlled legislature, and the results are generally agreed to have favored Republicans. For this reason, without having a more detailed set of data for the voting by precincts within the 12th, I'll stick to the assumption that Murtha's district has a Republican lean in national elections...

This Pennsylvania district is rural, and if it has been following national trends at all, is solidly for strong enforcement of the borders against illegal immigration. Unfortunately, I do not have polls available to show this, but if rural voters in Virginia were willing to vote out incumbent town councilmen over the issue, rural voters in Pennsylvania may be inclined to do the same thing. And as luck would have it, Murtha voted "nay" on HR4437, the Border Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Control Act sponsored by Sensenbrenner. If Irey can succeed in making this an issue in the campaign, it may prove a major weakness for Murtha, especially since it seems to contradict his stated concern for national security and ties him to the very poorly received national illegal immigration demonstrations.

In sum, Murtha is beatable, despite the advantages of 32 years of incumbency. On the two major issues of the day, the war and immigration, he appears to be running far to the left of his constituents, and now because of his national media presence, they know about it. I have not seen any early polls taken on the Irey-Murtha matchup so my arguments are based on inference from other data, but I believe my assumptions can stand up to scrutiny. This is a campaign RedState can get behind and have a reasonable chance of success at. When the benefits are as great as unseating a Democrat hack like Murtha, the price of tapping a few keys to blog for Irey seems quite small!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: iraq; irey; leftist; murtha; traitor
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To: Allegra

Whatever it takes to draw one's interest! :-)


21 posted on 05/19/2006 9:17:56 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop

No! It is interesting, he is finally starting feel the heat of his past subversive acts of sedition thanks to the internet.


22 posted on 05/19/2006 9:26:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Coop

Yes, I stand by my numbers for the PA-12 (which are based on those compiled by Polidata and published by Michael Barone). The county voting results given by Red State do not exclude the portions of the counties that are outside of the district lines. Check out the map of PA-12: http://nationalatlas.gov/printable/images/pdf/congdist/PA12_109.pdf

BTW, the district was created by the GOP legislature to be a safe district for the powerful Murtha but to be competitive in an open-seat situation later on in the decade (making the CD more Republican would have made it more difficult for the GOP to win in the PA-04 or PA-18), but Murtha's recent leftward tilt and irresponsible comments have made the district winnable right now.


23 posted on 05/19/2006 9:38:59 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: Coop

It's encouraging to see that Diana Irey is being helped by campaign funds being generated by the efforts of yourself and others here at FR. It is truly a worthy cause.

Although I consider her support for our military and the WOT the most important reason to support her, her stand on lower taxes and family values ranks high also.

I look forward to helping in any way I can in spreading the word about her here at FR and in the media and aiding her campaign financially.


24 posted on 05/19/2006 9:45:53 AM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: Coop

Coop, I have to say, for me Murtha is a Godsend. I wondered how I was going to get publicity for my new book, "America's Victories: Why the U.S. Wins Wars . . . ." when all the talk was immigration, and out steps Murtha.


25 posted on 05/19/2006 9:54:35 AM PDT by LS
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To: Always Right; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Kuksool; Dan from Michigan; zbigreddogz; JohnnyZ; ...

There is another factor. Diana Irey is a credible candidate, but she is badly underfunded. Anyone who can afford to financially support her should do so.


26 posted on 05/19/2006 9:55:24 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: LS; Liz; NYCConservative; oceanview; smoothsailing; MichiganConservative; MplsSteve; ...

LS, I think it's laudible that you've written this book.

What would be another great developement would be if someone would set up a "STOP JOHN MURTHA" web page, complete with a link to the Diana Irey For Congress website's campaign contribution page.


27 posted on 05/19/2006 9:59:56 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I'd be happy to contribute to Irey. I have a Hayworth stub in my "to be paid" box. But Murtha is an idiot.


28 posted on 05/19/2006 10:03:17 AM PDT by LS
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To: LS
I'm waiting for a nice two-fer package on Amazon. ;-)Then I will stalk your schedule for an opportunity to get them signed!

Say (insert lightbulb here) any chance you'll do a book signing in JOHNSTOWN, PA? We can kill two birds with one stone!

29 posted on 05/19/2006 10:10:45 AM PDT by Sisku Hanne (Equal treatment for illegal aliens: the US should adopt Mexico's immigration policy!)
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To: Coop

Borders! Borders! Borders!

Does Irey support deporting all 12 million illegals out of here and putting land mines on the border? The Tancredo Fan Club on FR demands it :)


30 posted on 05/19/2006 10:16:53 AM PDT by Kuksool
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To: Kuksool; Coop
Don't quote me, but I've heard Diana supports alligators on the border. :D
31 posted on 05/19/2006 10:36:09 AM PDT by smoothsailing (Support The Troops-Support The Mission http://www.irey.com)
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To: Sisku Hanne

So far, nothing scheduled in PA, but you never know.


32 posted on 05/19/2006 10:44:19 AM PDT by LS
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To: Coop
It sounded like he was talking about the Commonwealth as a whole, but I could be wrong.

auh2orepublican knows his stuff and has the skinny:

"BTW, the district was created by the GOP legislature to be a safe district for the powerful Murtha but to be competitive in an open-seat situation later on in the decade (making the CD more Republican would have made it more difficult for the GOP to win in the PA-04 or PA-18), but Murtha's recent leftward tilt and irresponsible comments have made the district winnable right now."

Answers my question and Murtha does look beatable. Freepers of the PA-12th, help the country to see the LAST of Jack Murtha.

33 posted on 05/19/2006 11:07:03 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Jabba the Hutt's bigger, meaner, uglier brother.)
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To: Coop
Coop,

That district is shaped like a bacteria.

How did Bush perform in the 12th District?

The detestable pro-terrorist libs like Murtha may have gerrymandered that district to be an easy re-election locality for this UN-AMERICAN self-serving pig that is Murtha.
34 posted on 05/19/2006 11:27:10 AM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: Coop
Bump!
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Irey for Congress
600 Park Avenue
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www.IREY.com

35 posted on 05/19/2006 11:42:02 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! I *LOVE* my attitude problem. Beware the Enemedia!)
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To: new yorker 77

"How did Bush perform in the 12th District?"



See post #6. President Bush got somewhere between 48.0% and 48.5% in the district, with Kerry getting a tad over 51%.


36 posted on 05/19/2006 12:05:07 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Thanks.


37 posted on 05/19/2006 12:08:56 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: Sisku Hanne
"Who wants a politician that gambles the lives of our sons and daughters in his partisan games?" Quote of the day.

38 posted on 05/19/2006 5:41:53 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Wristpin; smoothsailing

Excellent.


39 posted on 05/19/2006 5:42:57 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema

Nail his azz...Just like when the Dems were having a tizzy about recouping the meal allowance for the wounded in the hospitals. The same exact policy was in place when I had a small hospital stay back in 81...On check out you pay the meal tab...

When Teddy Kennedy was demagogueing, I couldn't help but think the SOB probably wrote the law requiring the silly system.


40 posted on 05/19/2006 5:55:09 PM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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