Posted on 05/18/2006 4:04:27 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy
For quite some time, 20 years at least, conservatives, constitutionalists and traditionalists have been frustrated with political reality in America. The ‘Republican revolution’ of 1994 bore small fruit, that establishment Republicans let wither and die on the vine. In the place of promises of smaller government, fiscal responsibility and stronger defense of our liberties and sovereignty, the Republicans have given us what the Democrats wanted to give us: bigger government, larger debts, and big-brother government with fading liberty and sovereignty.
The Democrats are nothing but pandering socialists who have sold out to corporate globalists, whereas Republicans are pandering corporatists who have sold out to socialistic globalists. There’s not a whole lot of difference is there? What we have running our country are a bunch of power hungry one-worlders who basically chose up sides to play their game and are only concerned with their team (political party) being in control. Either way we get the same raw deal.
Not since the 1850s has the political environment been so ripe for the emergence of another political party onto the national scene in a manner that will allow it to ‘play with the big boys.’ Back then, it was the newly formed Republican Party that came on the scene and eventually eclipsed and killed the Whig Party. If a political party, whether it were to be a newly formed party or one of the current third parties, was to make the right move, it could dominate the right, become a defender of the Constitution, and truly get into the game with the ‘big boys.’
The Democratic Party has sold its soul to socialism and every leftist special interest or perversion known. The Republican Party is tearing itself apart due to the left-leaning elites that control the party, ignoring its conservative base. A new conservative party could pull in the disaffected voters who’ve given up on our political system, and also draw in conservatives hopelessly clinging to the Republican Party. The remaining liberal Republicans would simply fold themselves into the Democratic Party, where there hearts really reside already.
According to a recent Scott Rasmussen’s survey, a third party candidate could easily take a third of the votes in a national election if they made preventing illegal immigration and enforcing our immigration laws their key issues. In fact, if Hillary Clinton was to run for president in 2008, without a third party candidate focused on illegal immigration, the survey shows nothing can stop Hillary from winning. Basically, we will have another Clinton in the White House in 2009 if a conservative third party candidate doesn’t come forth and champion U.S. sovereignty and fight illegal immigration. The survey shows that a third party candidate can win in a three-way race. Hillary wins in a two-way race between Democrats and Republicans. But a third party President facing a Congress split between two opposition parties could mean a seriously failed presidency. That is why a third party would have to ensure candidates run for the House and Senate at the same time, and do so with a ‘joint game plan’ with the presidential candidate. If the ‘Contract with America,’ where candidates ran on a group platform, worked in 1994, it can work in 2008, linking a third party’s presidential candidate with that party’s congressional candidates, all sporting the same key issues and ‘running together’ after a fashion.
With this in mind, neo-con Republicans would no longer be able to scare conservatives into voting for them simply based on the idea that ‘if you don’t vote for us, the Democrats will control everything.” This worn out line has really lost its impact; especially with how the Republican controlled Congress and White House have spent the last five years acting like Democrats.
But what party to form, or which party to look to? To try and form a new, independent party now, looking two years ahead, is a daunting task. I question if this can be done in a manner that will be effective. Looking at existing third parties, which ones have fairly viable organizations that stretch across the country? There are only two I’m aware of that meet the organizational criteria: the Libertarian Party and the Constitution Party. Both, overall, tend to hold fairly sound, traditional views on limited government, fiscal responsibility by government, and limited international involvement (leaving that involvement to be purely economic). It’s in the area of immigration that these two parties differ. It is the Constitution Party that holds the view the Rasmussen survey shows can take the White House.
If the American people wish to break the stranglehold that the current two-party system holds over them (and will surely lead to our financial, cultural and political demise), then anyone who considers themselves a patriot should look to backing the one viable party that stands for American sovereignty and the control of our borders: The Constitution Party. Cast off fears that not voting Republican will mean Hillary gets the White House. The survey shows that that very fear will ensure she gets the White house. It takes courage to take a new path, and it’s time all conservatives, constitutionalists and traditionalists got in the one vehicle that’s currently available to take us back to the constitutional republic our forefathers left us.
I’m not saying that every official position of the Constitution Party is going to appeal to all conservatives/constitutionalists/traditionalist, but neither do all the planks in the Republican or Democrat platforms. I’m just saying that if the citizens want to take back their country from the elites and globalists, it’s time to break with the establishment one-worlders who are selling us down the river and take action via a political party that is working to preserve our Constitution as intended, not as interpreted (or ignored) by elitists.
The Constitution Party stands for more than just defending against immigration, and people should read up on them. At the same time, the Constitution Party needs to promote more of their fiscal views. Currently, they are known mostly as a pro-life party. They can’t ride an anti-abortion, one-trick pony to the White House or to Congress. To be viewed as a truly viable party, the Constitution Party needs to promote their other views concerning limited government, fiscal responsibility and halting illegal immigration. Getting a truly conservative, Constitution-honoring political party into Congress and the White House would help to steer the U.S. back towards sanity. A three-way split in political parties working in Congress could be really beneficial to the health of our Republic.
I know there will be Republican supporters out there that will tell me I’m dividing their ranks and now is the time to fight to keep the Republican Party on track. I can only say that not only is the Republican Party not on track, it has derailed and had a horrible wreck. At this point in time, it is a fool’s errand to attempt to change the neo-con party. I’m also confidant that some Libertarians out there will tell me I should be backing the Libertarian Party rather than the Constitution Party, as they are the real party of true liberty. The Libertarian Party has a lot of good positions on issues. However, as I stated earlier, the big issue that is the turning point for making a third party a true player on the national level is illegal immigration, and the Libertarian Party doesn’t have the correct position on it to take advantage of the current situation in America. In looking for the best vehicle to break the stranglehold that the Republican-Democrat system has on public office, the Libertarian Party simply isn’t positioned properly to be that vehicle.
I freely admit that I’m not a Republican any more (I haven’t been for about 10 years now), and that I’m not a Constitution Party member…yet. However, the time is ripe for change, and I’m tired of being a disaffected conservative. Thanks to the spinelessness of establishment politicians, the climate is right for a new major political party, and the Constitution Party is right on the issue of immigration to take advantage of the times. This is not just a chance to shake up the two-party system, but a chance to take our country back and make it a home again for citizens rather than territory to be conquered by the illegal invaders.
Same can be said about their 3rd candidates
After further reflection, it's the non voters we are talking about.
Nope, choices. The kind people make voting for their Senators and Congressmen.
I reject the idea that Republican leadership is no different than Democrat, but that idea has many adherents, as well as those who think the Dems would be superior.
I also reject the idea that by staying home and assuring Senator Casey rather than Senator Santorum, Pennsylvania voters send a message to the GOP to turn to the right.
The attempt was instilling fear. It didn't work on me and I suspect you will be unfulfilled with most others as well.
It only works so many times, this may be the first time in a long while it didn't work anymore.
I also reject the idea that by staying home and assuring Senator Casey rather than Senator Santorum, Pennsylvania voters send a message to the GOP to turn to the right.
You can reject whatever you want. Looks to me like the only people who matter rejected Santorum,,,,and fear.
If Republican candidates can't get Republicans to vote for them, it's THEIR fault, not the citizens.
The message was sent. The people to whom it was sent have thus far ignored it or are in denial about it.
They may "get it" if it's sent more forcefully in the next election.
But I never underestimate their density.
All I can say, is put all that stuff in your third party plank. You'll feel better but I can say without too much risk of being wrong that you'll be hard pressed to get anyone elected on that platform. Sorry but those "principles" just ain't mainstream. Now if your intent is to push the general public in that direction so those "principles" become mainstream, fine. You still need to get at least one individual elected that adheres to your plank. However, if your intent is to push one of the existing political parties in the direction of your "principles", well good luck to you but I don't think a third party suits that purpose either. Sorry that's the problem with a "big tent" party...you have to learn to get along and work with people who don't exactly have the exact same "principles" as you do. If you don't want to do that...well start your little tent party. It's not like that hasn't been done before too.
Their collection of socialist-crazies far outnumber those in the Republican Party.
The GOP's train has been derailed, but not altogether wrecked.
When I examine those pictures you posted I do indeed get extremely nauseated. There is not one honest true American in the bunch!
I agree that we could use a few more political parties. Step one is to destroy the Dhimmicrats, who are trying to set themselves up in power in a single party state -- a goal since Wilson, at least -- eliminate US sovereignty, finish off the First Amendment, and bring down the jack boot on the necks of all.
We do that by defeating their so-called moderates (even if that involves replacing them with so-called RINOs) and getting the DNC to radicalize even more than they have in the past three election cycles. That alienates it them further and further from more and more voters. Shredding their factions into separate and independent political parties would follow.
We need to take a little, and take a little more, and then a little more, etc, until we have it all. We will never get it all in one bite, which is something some folks either don't get, or pretend not to get, and/or just refuse to accept.
I feel that it galls you as much as it does me and others. The tent is getting all out of shape due to the socialists among us and groups like the Log Cabin Republicans. (I wish they'd just take their logs and move on.)
I feel your pain. I will also say that everyone is under the microscope so much more than than people were just 50 years ago. Were we to look deeper into the souls of our granite heroes, I bet we'd find they were quite human too.
I hope Santorum wins. If not, a turn to a more centrist candidate is also a reasonable response by the Pennsylvania Republican Party. Not the response I'd like to see, but a reasonable one.
When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside.
When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside.
It still beats the freak show down the street.
It still beats the freak show down the street.
Clowns and freaks. That about sums up the two choices. Thanks for wrapping it up so nicely.
A new slogan for the Republican party could be;
"Vote for our clowns, at least they aren't freaks."
heard that skipping record before
BTW, where did you ever hear the slogan I just suggested before? I just wrote it.
Snappy comeback though,,that zzzzzzzzzz really adds an exclamation point to your argument. I'm sure folks will read that and say, "That guy sure made a good point"! "I think I'll vote straight ticket Republican!"
LOL
Give it a rest will you? You made a quip and you got a quip back. If you wanted something more, you should have contributed more.
I have posted plenty to this thread. The points I have made were a tad inconvenient for your position however, so I'm not surprised you didn't comment on them.
Actually, they are quite sane. They seek power. They manipulate useful idiots to get it. They don't care a bit about ideas or concepts except as a path to power.
That is why so many Republicans here advocate ignoring the similarities and emphasizing the small differences, so they can retain power.
The only delusion is that either of the two current parties will ever lead to a small constitutional government and real freedom.
zzzzzzzzzzz sums up the intellect of the "party first" people very nicely.
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