The Time has Never Been Better for a Third Party

Sierra Times ^ | 5/17/2006 | Jeff Adams

[FerdieMurphy]

For quite some time, 20 years at least, conservatives, constitutionalists and traditionalists have been frustrated with political reality in America. The ‘Republican revolution’ of 1994 bore small fruit, that establishment Republicans let wither and die on the vine. In the place of promises of smaller government, fiscal responsibility and stronger defense of our liberties and sovereignty, the Republicans have given us what the Democrats wanted to give us: bigger government, larger debts, and big-brother government with fading liberty and sovereignty.

The Democrats are nothing but pandering socialists who have sold out to corporate globalists, whereas Republicans are pandering corporatists who have sold out to socialistic globalists. There’s not a whole lot of difference is there? What we have running our country are a bunch of power hungry one-worlders who basically chose up sides to play their game and are only concerned with their team (political party) being in control. Either way we get the same raw deal.

Not since the 1850s has the political environment been so ripe for the emergence of another political party onto the national scene in a manner that will allow it to ‘play with the big boys.’ Back then, it was the newly formed Republican Party that came on the scene and eventually eclipsed and killed the Whig Party. If a political party, whether it were to be a newly formed party or one of the current third parties, was to make the right move, it could dominate the right, become a defender of the Constitution, and truly get into the game with the ‘big boys.’

The Democratic Party has sold its soul to socialism and every leftist special interest or perversion known. The Republican Party is tearing itself apart due to the left-leaning elites that control the party, ignoring its conservative base. A new conservative party could pull in the disaffected voters who’ve given up on our political system, and also draw in conservatives hopelessly clinging to the Republican Party. The remaining liberal Republicans would simply fold themselves into the Democratic Party, where there hearts really reside already.

According to a recent Scott Rasmussen’s survey, a third party candidate could easily take a third of the votes in a national election if they made preventing illegal immigration and enforcing our immigration laws their key issues. In fact, if Hillary Clinton was to run for president in 2008, without a third party candidate focused on illegal immigration, the survey shows nothing can stop Hillary from winning. Basically, we will have another Clinton in the White House in 2009 if a conservative third party candidate doesn’t come forth and champion U.S. sovereignty and fight illegal immigration. The survey shows that a third party candidate can win in a three-way race. Hillary wins in a two-way race between Democrats and Republicans. But a third party President facing a Congress split between two opposition parties could mean a seriously failed presidency. That is why a third party would have to ensure candidates run for the House and Senate at the same time, and do so with a ‘joint game plan’ with the presidential candidate. If the ‘Contract with America,’ where candidates ran on a group platform, worked in 1994, it can work in 2008, linking a third party’s presidential candidate with that party’s congressional candidates, all sporting the same key issues and ‘running together’ after a fashion.

With this in mind, neo-con Republicans would no longer be able to scare conservatives into voting for them simply based on the idea that ‘if you don’t vote for us, the Democrats will control everything.” This worn out line has really lost its impact; especially with how the Republican controlled Congress and White House have spent the last five years acting like Democrats.

But what party to form, or which party to look to? To try and form a new, independent party now, looking two years ahead, is a daunting task. I question if this can be done in a manner that will be effective. Looking at existing third parties, which ones have fairly viable organizations that stretch across the country? There are only two I’m aware of that meet the organizational criteria: the Libertarian Party and the Constitution Party. Both, overall, tend to hold fairly sound, traditional views on limited government, fiscal responsibility by government, and limited international involvement (leaving that involvement to be purely economic). It’s in the area of immigration that these two parties differ. It is the Constitution Party that holds the view the Rasmussen survey shows can take the White House.

If the American people wish to break the stranglehold that the current two-party system holds over them (and will surely lead to our financial, cultural and political demise), then anyone who considers themselves a patriot should look to backing the one viable party that stands for American sovereignty and the control of our borders: The Constitution Party. Cast off fears that not voting Republican will mean Hillary gets the White House. The survey shows that that very fear will ensure she gets the White house. It takes courage to take a new path, and it’s time all conservatives, constitutionalists and traditionalists got in the one vehicle that’s currently available to take us back to the constitutional republic our forefathers left us.

I’m not saying that every official position of the Constitution Party is going to appeal to all conservatives/constitutionalists/traditionalist, but neither do all the planks in the Republican or Democrat platforms. I’m just saying that if the citizens want to take back their country from the elites and globalists, it’s time to break with the establishment one-worlders who are selling us down the river and take action via a political party that is working to preserve our Constitution as intended, not as interpreted (or ignored) by elitists.

The Constitution Party stands for more than just defending against immigration, and people should read up on them. At the same time, the Constitution Party needs to promote more of their fiscal views. Currently, they are known mostly as a pro-life party. They can’t ride an anti-abortion, one-trick pony to the White House or to Congress. To be viewed as a truly viable party, the Constitution Party needs to promote their other views concerning limited government, fiscal responsibility and halting illegal immigration. Getting a truly conservative, Constitution-honoring political party into Congress and the White House would help to steer the U.S. back towards sanity. A three-way split in political parties working in Congress could be really beneficial to the health of our Republic.

I know there will be Republican supporters out there that will tell me I’m dividing their ranks and now is the time to fight to keep the Republican Party on track. I can only say that not only is the Republican Party not on track, it has derailed and had a horrible wreck. At this point in time, it is a fool’s errand to attempt to change the neo-con party. I’m also confidant that some Libertarians out there will tell me I should be backing the Libertarian Party rather than the Constitution Party, as they are the real party of true liberty. The Libertarian Party has a lot of good positions on issues. However, as I stated earlier, the big issue that is the turning point for making a third party a true player on the national level is illegal immigration, and the Libertarian Party doesn’t have the correct position on it to take advantage of the current situation in America. In looking for the best vehicle to break the stranglehold that the Republican-Democrat system has on public office, the Libertarian Party simply isn’t positioned properly to be that vehicle.

I freely admit that I’m not a Republican any more (I haven’t been for about 10 years now), and that I’m not a Constitution Party member…yet. However, the time is ripe for change, and I’m tired of being a disaffected conservative. Thanks to the spinelessness of establishment politicians, the climate is right for a new major political party, and the Constitution Party is right on the issue of immigration to take advantage of the times. This is not just a chance to shake up the two-party system, but a chance to take our country back and make it a home again for citizens rather than territory to be conquered by the illegal invaders.

[justshutupandtakeit]

At first I thought this was worth reading then saw its source. This is the WORST time to attack the GOP and assist the Party of Treason.

BTW you don't even know what a "globalist" is. However the anarchists who like to demonstrate against them will welcome you since they don't know either.

[teddyballgame]

"Conservative and Republican are not synonymous. Not all Conservatives are Republicans. Not all Republicans are Conservatives. That is the problem. Whenever the non-conservative (big business) Republicans are in control, they act in the interest of big business, which is very likely to conflict with true conservatism."

I realize this, thats why I make the distinction of calling mylself conservative and not a Republican. Like Rush says, when Republicans run on conservative principles we win (Reagan/Bush). The same holds true for liberals - when they show who they are - they always lose. The funny thing about the last several elections, the Democratic Party explained the losses away by saying they "didn't get their message out". It's not ture, they got their message out fine and the American people rejected it. That's why its so important to put the Democratic Party on the defensive and make them vote and express their view on certain key issues; National Security, gay marriage, taxes, etc.

I'm hoping Bush/Rove have something up there sleeves prior to the mid-terms.

[justshutupandtakeit]

This is another assault on FR by infantile clowns without a clue as to political realities. "Waaaa, I want it NOW. If you don't give me all the ice cream I want NOW I am going to hold my breath till I die, waaaa."

Unfortunately some of the naive take this idiocy seriously and are ready to attack the GOP because they don't like everything it has done. I presume they also believe they should file for divorce as soon as their spouse leaves the toilet seat in the wrong position.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Congratulations upon recovering your sanity. Unfortunately another wave of Madness is sweeping the Nation. Democrats plan, organize and promote massive rallies of Illegals and get the delusionary, demented and ignorant to blame the GOP. Gotta hand it to them their plan is working like a charm.

[Protagoras]

Conservatives and conservative libertarians are adrift in the political ocean, only potential survivors of the two party shipwreck.

They are clinging to the only piece of flotsam available, the remains of the Republican Party.

They can try to hang on while waiting for rescue, but it looks as though they will drown or be eaten by sharks.

If I'm going to die, I choose to do it while swimming for shore.

It's a life or death decision that one can only make for themselves.

[Protagoras]

The liberal spent from 1932 to 1990 getting us to where we are.....

Actually, it only took from the 20's to the Roosevelt years. The rest has been just the inevitable result.

[Protagoras]

Fear is a terrible product to try to sell to the unafraid.

[Protagoras]

Me too. Republican all my life, not this time - unless the invasion from mexico is stopped.

Welcome to FR. I'd bet plenty that you have never, ever been a Republican.

[sgtbono2002]

I do not Lament yesterdays politicians. I only regret the fact that we have no one today that would make a decent role model , much less a decent president.

Todays role models seem to be Sponge Bob and Scooby Doo. What ever happened to Roy Rogers, Gene Autry, John Wayne.

Todays actors wouldnt make a skid mark in John Waynes skivvy's. Nor would todays politicians stand up against people like Teddy Roosevelt or Harry S. Truman. Not lamenting the fact that they are gone , only that their replacements are third string at best.

[Protagoras]

I have an honest question for you.

It only requires a short answer and not a rehash of all things good or bad about the Republicans or how horrible the country will be if the Dems regain a majority.

In fact, I won't think less of you if you choose not to answer. The question can be left to hang about and be pondered.

Question; if the Republicans lose their majority in the upcoming or future elections, whose fault will it be,,, The elected officials and their supporters,,,,or the people who choose not to vote for them?

[Mo1]

the voters because they have the final say

[sgtbono2002]

I was exceptionally fond of Harry Truman.

[Protagoras]

the voters because they have the final say

Right, your guys are correct, they didn't cause the discontent, it's the voters fault.

Now that I have been shown that, I'll be supporting all the Republican candidates from now on. No matter what they do, it's the fault of the former Republicans and intransigent conservatives. The dumb bastards just don't know what's good for them.

[Mo1]

The dumb bastards just don't know what's good for them.

Many in the 3rd party are impatience and like a child throws a hissy fit to get what they want .. regardless of whether it's what is needed or best at the moment

if they really wanted to help make a change now .. run as a pubbie because right now .. we can not afford to play games by splitting the vote .. it will only get a Liberal Socialist elected

There is no wiggle room to play games

[SJackson]

FR's Third Party/Stay at Home Voters

2007 They're Just Like Republicans Congressional Delegation

Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House	John Conyers, Jr, Chairman, House Judiciary Committee
Tom Lantos, Chairman, House International Relations Committee	David R. Obey, Chairman, House Committee on Appropriations
John Dingell, Chairman House Energy and Commerce Committee	Chaplain for the US House of Representatives??
Charles Rangel, Chairman, House Ways & Means Committee	Jane Harman, Chairman, House Intelligence Committee
BARNEY FRANK, Chairman, House Financial Services Committee	Henry Waxman - House Government Reform Committee
Patrick Kennedy, Chairman House Entertainment Committee	Chairperson, House Committee on Conspiracies
Harry Reid, President pro Tempore of the Senate, 3rd in Presidential line of succession.	Joseph Biden, Chairman, Senate Foreign Relations Committee
RUSSELL D. FEINGOLD, Chairman, Senate Judiciary Committee	Jay Rockefeller, Chairman, Senate Intelligence Committee
Robert C. Byrd, Chairman, Senate Appropriations Committee	John F. Kerry, Chairman US Senate Committee on Finance
Joe Liebermann, Chairman, Senate Homeland Security Committee	Chris Dodd, Chairman, Senate Rules and Administration Committee
Carl Levin, Chairman Senate Armed Services Committee	John McCain, some things will stay the same
Ted Kennedy, Chairman, Senate Committee on Immigration	President in Waiting.
First Man	Patrick Leahy, we’ll find him a job
Barbara Boxer, we’ll find her a job.	Senate Chaplain???

[RightWhale]

There are already dozens of third parties. If a candidate with some voter appeal should appear, a third party could be organized around him overnight. Candidate first, then party.

[Protagoras]

My post had nothing to do with advocating a third party, so you might as post it to "ALL".

But I'll give you a little advice which I'm sure you won't consider,

Stop insulting the people you want to vote for your candidates.

(Politics 101)

[Protagoras]

Oh NO!!!!!!!!!

A BOOGIE MAN!!!!!!! ,

[Protagoras]

Here's the truth, if a Republican candidate can't get other Republicans to vote for him..........

It's his fault!

[Mo1]

did I hit a nerve?